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Just got back from my unopened box excursion.....

I'm gonna take care of a few things here at the house and then I'll be back with a full trip report and pictures of my haul. That will be followed by a live rip or two. My scanner here at home is broken as I always do my scanning at work so I'll have to take close pictures of them and upload to my photobucket but it will be fun. Stay tuned.

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    WE WANNA RIP

    WE WANNA RIP

    RIP MAN RIP
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    tease...


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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    so didja get the '74 Football box? image
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    ok, first off the guy had a lot of stuff that I didn't see there the last time I went. He said he found some stuff that he had put up about 25 or so years ago and forgot he had. The guy is about 75 years old. I asked him to give me a price if I bought a whole bunch of stuff and to think about it while I took my daughter and wife to supper.

    At supper my daughter spilled marinara all over herself and laughed and the spaghetti and meatballs I had was fantastic. It wasn't $46.98 fantastic but it was good none the less. I told my wife I was about to buy $10,000 worth of stuff from the guy and she first laughed and then said "really?". I laughed and then said "no, not really", but maybe half of that, lol.

    My wife and daughter went to walk around and shop at other stores and I told them to meet me at the car in about 30 minutes. That would give me time to haggle with the guy and burn down his shop is needed. I told her to pull the car to the back of the store if she saw smoke coming from that direction.

    When I got back he quoted something ridiculous for all of it, but I anticipated that and actually had a figure in mind with prices from BBCE and ebay on hand to counter his reasoning. Well, he would simply not budge on any of the really high end stuff. He still had the '72 GAI 8.5 box and still had it priced at $4000. He told me he'd take $3200 for it, but I said I couldn't go above $2400 without knowing what series it was from. We haggled back and forth over the other stuff for several minutes. Finally, I offered him $4200 for the '72 box, the '80-'81 Basketball box (which he quoted by itself for $1100), a 1952 Bowman Mantle graded SGC 60 (which was a beautiful well centered example that he had priced for $1495), and a 1980 Topps Baseball wax box that he had priced at $350. I even pulled the old - counting out 42 crisp bills and putting on the counter trick, but he wasnt going for it. He countered with $5000 which is still not out of line, but I politely declined.

    Oddly enough, what I did end up buying because I got the best deal on it and because I haven't ripped any football since I was a kid, was 3 older football boxes.

    First up '83 Topps

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    Next '80 Topps

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    and finally, one that I really wanted, '78 Topps

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    All three of the boxes are in good shape and the pack look really good.

    I think I'm gonna sit here tonight and rip the absolute sh*t out of all 3 of them. Up first '83 Topps. The pics will take a little time because, like I said, I don't have a working scanner here.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1972 is only one series
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1972 is only one series >>



    got the images fixed. 1972 Topps Baseball is what I meant.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ah, those are easy to tell. Just turn one of the packs over and you can see right through them.
    Thats one you should go back and find out.
    5th PETE ROSE!!!!! 6th are killer boxes!!
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ah, those are easy to tell. Just turn one of the packs over and you can see right through them.
    Thats one you should go back and find out.
    5th PETE ROSE!!!!! 6th are killer boxes!! >>



    It's encapsulated by GAI (8.5). That was the problem we had last time. Felicia offered to go in with me on the box and even called Steve Hart with some questions about it but he would not allow us to bust it out of the GAI box and send it to BBCE for inspection. GAI did not label the series and its impossible to tell from the box itself.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭


    << <i>Just turn one of the packs over and you can see right through them. >>







    << <i>He still had the '72 GAI 8.5 box and still had it priced at $4000. >>



    Tommy cant turn over a pack the box is sealed in a GAI holder.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    so far the gum bleeding on the '83's is pretty bad. The bottom two cards are ruined in all but one of the 4 packs I've opened. Also, 26 year old gum sucks.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I discontinued opening the '83's as I couldn't take getting a nicely centered Marcus Allen rookie that had gum bleed all over the card. I think I'm gonna take 'em back and see if I can get another one of the 83 boxes. If I can't then I might just give them away or something. Anyway, I've opened a pack of the '80's and they are 100 times better.
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    i will set the over under on what you paid for the 3 boxes at.... $440.00

    but wouldnt be surprises if the old man scammed you for 5 bills even
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i will set the over under on what you paid for the 3 boxes at.... $440.00

    but wouldnt be surprises if the old man scammed you for 5 bills even >>



    I gave $400 and felt like I got a good deal since the '78 box is worth more than that.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    pulled a Simms and Dorsett so far but centering wasn't good. Got a few sharp commons. 8 packs in.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Largent off center. Getting a lot of sub worthy cards but they are all commons thus far, about 20 packs in. I'm taking my sweet time.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Otis Anderson Rookie off center. Lester Hayes rookie is a blazer. It may be the 2nd PSA 10. If it is then the guy who just paid $1500 is gonna be pissed as he good get mine for half that, lol.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    4 packs to go and then I'll take pictures of the best ones.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I have to say that was a very fun box to rip as I've never ripped any '80's football before. The Simms and Payton were off center as well as the Dorsett, Anderson, and Largent. The Lester Hayes and Joe Greene will be going to PSA as well as several minor stars and commons that came out sharp.

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    Up next, '78 Topps.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    Great cards. 80 Football is a design. Very underrated.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
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  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Great cards. 80 Football is a design. Very underrated. >>



    yeah, I think so too. If the Lester Hayes isn't a 10 then I just don't know what a 10 is
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,755 ✭✭✭
    keep ripping. nice job. i think the hayes t/b centering will cause it not to 10. image it could just be the camera angle. i hope it is.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    Dorsett rookie 4th pack in. Centering is better than the '80 Dorsett but not 10 worthy , has slight tilt. Probably an 8.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>keep ripping. nice job. i think the hayes t/b centering will cause it not to 10. image it could just be the camera angle. i hope it is. >>



    yeah, I couldn't take pictures directly above the cards because the flash kept causing a big glare. The centering is dead on.
  • Thought this was a live rip, not a play by play. Where the heck are all the scans!?!?!?
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    13 packs in and I've gotten 1 Dorsett, 2 Dorsett Super Bowl cards, 1 Payton Leaders, 1 Tarkenton, OJ highlight, 2 Csonka's, and a few sharp minor stars (Ken Anderson, Ahmad Rashad) that are sub worthy.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thought this was a live rip, not a play by play. Where the heck are all the scans!?!?!? >>



    page 1 brother. I don't have a working scanner here so I have to wait until the end and then take pictures. I will scan them at work on Monday. So, I guess it's semi-live, lol.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hayes has an outside shot at a 10, but will most likely grade a 9, IMO..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hayes has an outside shot at a 10, but will most likely grade a 9, IMO.. >>



    good guess, since there is ONLY 1 in the history of Lester Hayes Rookies, lol. It has a shot at a 10 and may get one doing the resub game. 23 packs into the '78's. Got 2 Tarkenton's, 2 Bradshaw's, 3 Dorsetts in total, a couple of Staubachs, Fouts, etc...All are sharp but centering won't allow 10's.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭
    Would love to discuss a trade for your worst Dorsett
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would love to discuss a trade for your worst Dorsett >>



    I've only gotten 1 regular issue Dorsett so far (9 packs left). I'll put up a pic of it when I'm done.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    alright, done with the '78 box. Got a ton of stars but not many are sub worthy. The Dorsett is probably an 8 and I may sub the OJ highlight, Payton Highlight, and Tarkenton Highlight. The Theismann is pretty sharp and the Ken Anderson has got to be a 10 along with a few others. Overall I can't complain.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    < Hayes has an outside shot at a 10, but will most likely grade a 9, IMO.. >>



    good guess, since there is ONLY 1 in the history of Lester Hayes Rookies, lol.


    Even more reason why it will top at a 9 (centering T/B is the main reason, IMO). You might be resubbing that one till kingdom come, LOL...but best of luck if you do..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>< Hayes has an outside shot at a 10, but will most likely grade a 9, IMO.. >>



    good guess, since there is ONLY 1 in the history of Lester Hayes Rookies, lol.


    Even more reason why it will top at a 9 (centering T/B is the main reason, IMO). You might be resubbing that one till kingdom come, LOL...but best of luck if you do.. >>



    I may just tell them to keep the Hayes out there and just charge my credit card $10/month until it becomes a 10. I looked and its now a pop 2 anyway. 6 or 7 of the best ones I have picked out of the '80's Topps are 0 pop right now. The Ken Anderson is a 0 pop in the '78's and most of the other best ones are 1-3 pop. Even if I get all 5's it's fun to rip old sh*t every now and then.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Did you get any Fred Deans from '78? They sell quite well in PSA 9 or above.

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  • EAsportsEAsports Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you get any Fred Deans from '78? They sell quite well in PSA 9 or above.

    Nick >>



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  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    The seller swapped the '83 box I had with the major gumbleed for another box that had sharp cards in it. I got 2 Marcus Allen Rookies, 2 Payton's, 2 Montanas, and several other sharp stars. None of them are 10 worthy due to slight centering but a bunch of 9's and a few sharp possible 10 commons.

    He has an '80 Topps Football rack box that I'll probably get on my next trip to see him. I told him if he'd get his heart right I'd buy the '80-'81 Basketball, '72 Baseball, and '72-'73 Basketball. He just laughed. He asked me if I was ripping this old stuff and when I told him yes, he almost had a heart attack. "Why would you do that when you are such a young man and this stuff is just gonna go up in value if you leave it unopened?"

    I told him because I can make more money, but I can't get the same rush by leaving it unopened. Besides, even if it does go up in value, what the hell am I gonna do with a few more hundred or possibley thousands of dollars when I'm old anyway? By that time, turning stuff for profit will be the last thing on my mind.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    I told him because I can make more money, but I can't get the same rush by leaving it unopened. Besides, even if it does go up in value, what the hell am I gonna do with a few more hundred or possibley thousands of dollars when I'm old anyway? By that time, turning stuff for profit will be the last thing on my mind.

    I agree. RIP RIP RIP!!!!!
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