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My first gold sticker

RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
(also my first submission)

1855 PCGS AU-55:

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Coin was purchased from CRO.
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  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    I can see why, definitely a choice coin for the grade.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Nice.

    Yet, for any $3 gold, I cannot get over this bizarre thought:

    image


    (100 stamps)


    Here's the question:

    Do you love your gold sticker? Even with a numeric grade of 55. That's a nice 55 indeed.

    Or would you rather have a 58. Let's throw in a green sticker too, cuz it looks like a high end 58 to me.
  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even I, a lowly bust half collector, can tell that coin is nice and likely under graded.
    beautiful coin
  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    That is stunning!!image
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard to believe it's only a 55. Gold sticker is well deserved. Beauty.
  • Old green holder?

    Who is John Galt?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    very nice... does the gold sticker guarantee the coin will upgrade?.... I don't know how this works.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>very nice... does the gold sticker guarantee the coin will upgrade?.... I don't know how this works. >>



    No.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sharp coin, RYK!

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sticker or no sticker, nice gold!
  • Great coin, regardless of the sticker, or the slab.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Your thread title got me whipped into a frothy frenzy. But when I opened the thread to see a picture of the sticker, all I saw was the coin. image
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    TTIWWPOTS

    This
    Thread
    Is
    Worthless
    Without
    Pictures
    Of
    The
    Sticker
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    That is something to be proud and happy over.

    Although all of my coins received green beans, I

    have not yet achieved a gold bean.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • intenceintence Posts: 1,255
    Nice!
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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    What a beautiful coin! Curious if you agree with the grade? It looks better than 55.
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  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    LOL. And to think I was reading just a few hours ago how coins you were posting pics of proved nothing at all, weren't really very nice and showed absolutely no sense of being able to assess original surfaces image

    Congrats! Who did you use for the CAC submission?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What a beautiful coin! Curious if you agree with the grade? It looks better than 55. >>



    It was the only coin in the 13 coin submission that I thought should go gold. I expected 10/13 stickers and got 10/13 stickers but was wrong on 4 coins (2 each way).
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>LOL. And to think I was reading just a few hours ago how coins you were posting pics of proved nothing at all, weren't really very nice and showed absolutely no sense of being able to assess original surfaces image

    Congrats! Who did you use for the CAC submission? >>



    Today, I used exciting new technology to broadcast a completely live coin show report to anyone who cares to read it, but far more people are interested in the gold sticker.image
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Judging by the image, it appears to be accurately graded with the typical rubbing on the cheek and in the hair, for a 55.
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Judging by the image, it appears to be accurately graded with the typical rubbing on the cheek and in the hair, for a 55. >>



    It has some white splotches on it in the fields that you can see with the coin in hand. That's probably why JA liked it so much. image
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice looker. And although you already got one from JA, let me add an ATTA BOY!image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I recently acquired a coin from CRO that would have been a candidate for a gold sticker but when I inquired about the coin they said it was out for a re-grade. Now it has a green sticker one grade higher than when I originally inquired about the coin.

    My question to you is after your break what are your current collecting interests? Looks like you are back into gold.
  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    Whereabouts was the coin graded and priced at when you purchased it?--55, 58 etc

    Chance favors the prepared mind.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    So . . . tell us about the results on the 1800 $5.
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Verty attractive northern product. I like the '54-O they have better, tho. image

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    Got Crust....y gold?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My question to you is after your break what are your current collecting interests? Looks like you are back into gold.

    Yes, but I am not sure what my direction (in gold) will be. The 1855 $3 was purchased a while back.

    Whereabouts was the coin graded and priced at when you purchased it?--55, 58 etc

    It was strong money, but I do not remember and not motivated enough to look it up.

    RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd.

    So . . . tell us about the results on the 1800 $5.

    Gone.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    twitter dee dee, twitter dee dumimage
    theknowitalltroll;
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I would really like to see a picture of that coin a thousand pixels wide instead of just a few hundred.

    It has the look™, doesn't it?
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Coin was purchased from CRO. >>


    That says a lot.

    Congrats. Nice coin!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK is just trying to be color coordinated this fall.

    Just picture him wearing his gold ski cap and gold laden shirt/sweatshirt and holding his gold sticker in the late fall when his home team shows up!

    Can't you see why he worships gold? Disgusting I say!

    What sports fans would do to support their home team! image

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    Congrats to you even though you ARE a Steelers fan.

    Signed, a suffering Browns fan. Wait til Next DECADE!
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats to you even though you ARE a Steelers fan.

    Signed, a suffering Browns fan. Wait til Next DECADE!


    Try...next lifetime. image
  • <<Congrats to you even though you ARE a Steelers fan.

    Signed, a suffering Browns fan. Wait til Next DECADE!>>


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    Oh yea, even though youre a Steelers guy RYK, ID buy ya a beer anytime......

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd. >>



    Definitely not absurd. JA thinks your coin is undergraded in its current holder otherwise he wouldn't have given it a gold sticker. Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    > Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade.


    The rarity factor here is in the gold sticker. I would keep the grade as is. The coin is always the coin, no matter what the TPG says.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd. >>



    Definitely not absurd. JA thinks your coin is undergraded in its current holder otherwise he wouldn't have given it a gold sticker. Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade. >>



    It doesn't matter what most collectors want, it matters what the guy who owns it wants - and he is telling you he likes it in its old OGH with a gold sticker.

    And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders.



    - Edited to fix a spate of typos.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders. >>


    I am one of those like-minded collectors.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd. >>



    Definitely not absurd. JA thinks your coin is undergraded in its current holder otherwise he wouldn't have given it a gold sticker. Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade. >>



    It doesn't matter what most collectors want, it matters what the guy who owns it wants - and he is telling you he likes it in its old OGH with a gold sticker.

    And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders.



    - Edited to fix a spate of typos. >>



    Yes, I like old holders too.

    Recently I purchased an 1825 quarter eagle. In a previous auction it had been in green label PCGS MS-61 holder. In this auction someone had cracked out the coin, sent it to PCGS and then to CAC. The coin is now a PCGS MS-61, new holder with a CAC sticker. I would have preferred the green label holder, and the CAC does not grab me one way or the other.

    And oh yes, I could have saved the guy who cracked the coin out the trouble. There was no way that coin could have made it into an MS-62 holder. It was a waste to re-submit it.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd. >>



    Definitely not absurd. JA thinks your coin is undergraded in its current holder otherwise he wouldn't have given it a gold sticker. Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade. >>



    Personally, I would NEVER resubmit one of my gold stickered coins for upgrade. I'd rather have the old holder w/ the gold sticker than start the game all over again in quest of the higher number on the label.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>RYK---Are you going to resubmit it to PCGS for a grade review and possible upgrade? At least we can find out if JA got it right.

    Of course not. That would be absurd. >>



    Definitely not absurd. JA thinks your coin is undergraded in its current holder otherwise he wouldn't have given it a gold sticker. Most collectors want their coins in a properly graded slab especially if the proper grade is higher and reflects the coin's true grade. >>



    Personally, I would NEVER resubmit one of my gold stickered coins for upgrade. I'd rather have the old holder w/ the gold sticker than start the game all over again in quest of the higher number on the label. >>



    Well, I read here that most collectors would not do it that way, so we should do what most collectors do. image Frankly, I cannot think of a single collector who would. Maybe I will start a poll on it later...
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There was no way that coin could have made it into an MS-62 holder. It was a waste to re-submit it.

    You throw enough mud at the wall, some of it sticks.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    O.K. I get it. It's the sticker and the slab that's important.image In all seriousness, I collect old slabs (I have the Black NGC and the PCGS Regency) so I can understand what you are saying.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders. >>



    Doesn't this apply primarily to copper?

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    The only way I would upgrade a slab that had a gold sticker on it is if it was not PCGS. My OCD requires everything I own to be in PCGS holders even if I lose big money on a downgrade. image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders. >>



    Doesn't this apply primarily to copper? >>



    My most valuable gold coin, nestled for the last four years in a PCGS holder, previously in an NGC fatty, has completely hazed over from putty. It applies to everything.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders. >>



    Doesn't this apply primarily to copper? >>



    No, although I would say that it's extremely important for red copper. In my opinion, doctoring was less sophisticated 20 years ago, so keeping coins in holders that are 2 decades old indicates that the coin is much less likely to have been messed with in any way.

    Also - and I know some who disagree - a collection really has to have some PQ coins in it in order to be considered superb. It can't be all maxxed out low end stuff [even if properly graded] in order to receive the respect it should command.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And in my experience, there are plenty of like-minded collectors who want to have some assurance that their coin hasn't been monkeyed with anytime in the recent past and is more likely to stay looking like it does now than some other freshly graded pieces. Which is why we like selling coins in old holders. >>



    Doesn't this apply primarily to copper? >>



    It applies to gold and silver too.

    I've seen silver coins turn because they had been dipped and not properly rinsed. They can turn some very ugly colors when this happens.

    Gold coins that have been dipped to remove copper stains can be trouble too. The copper stains can come back. The same applies to nickels that have been dipped. When the copper in those alloys is not mixed well, you can get streaks and spots and these streaks are more than skin deep.

    At least when it’s in an older holder (10 years old is nice), you can figure that the item is pretty stable.
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also - and I know some who disagree - a collection really has to have some PQ coins in it in order to be considered superb. It can't be all maxxed out low end stuff [even if properly graded] in order to receive the respect it should command. >>


    I dunno, I wasn't really paying much attention to the slab numbers when I viewed Sunnywood's Morgan collection. The coins
    spoke for themselves. What a concept.

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