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Shipping costs on a $265 coin...$12.90?

notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
Bought a coin on ebay today. Shipping was $12.90 as stated in the listing--about $8 for priority mail (flat rate envelope is $4.95) and $4.85 for required insurance (I'm pretty sure it's less than that). If I sell a coin of that value it ships for less than $4 by first class mail with signature confirmation....What would you do?

I'm thinking I'll thank him for making me look good as a seller. BTW, I've already paid without comment.

--Jerry

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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's what was stated....that's what you pay.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Jerry,

    You can ask for a lower rate, but if it is not given, you need to understand you should have asked before bidding. When ever I bid on a coin I take the shipping/insurance into consideration.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    For a $265 coin, the Priority Mail Flat Rate is $4.95 and insurance is $4.70. So, it is probably a hair high, but not enough so to probably make me say anything. It seems like some people would rather have items shipped Priority Mail fully insured, while others would rather have shipping via First Class mail in an envelope.

    I think it is really a matter of personal preference for shipping.
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  • Some sellers have weird shipping rules. I ship everything over $500 registered as that seems to be the "steal me" limit for regular insured packages. Seems silly, but wait forever for a 600.00 claim and it changes your religion quick!
    I guess if its a brick & mortar shop with an employee handling all shipping then its fairly reasonable.

    I charge below average shipping prices with many shipped free.

    Complaining about it is moot since most bidders consider that in their bid price. If you have higher shipping you get less. You probably got it for $10 less than if he had reasonable shipping unless its a bin auction.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmm, as an astute seller and buyer I would presume that you took that high shipping into
    account when you bid. Therefore, you probably STOLE the coin. Need to provide auction
    number Jerry! LOL

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,129 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bought a coin on ebay today. Shipping was $12.90 as stated in the listing--about $8 for priority mail (flat rate envelope is $4.95) and $4.85 for required insurance (I'm pretty sure it's less than that). If I sell a coin of that value it ships for less than $4 by first class mail with signature confirmation....What would you do?

    I'm thinking I'll thank him for making me look good as a seller. BTW, I've already paid without comment.

    --Jerry >>



    Actual cost to the seller:
    Electronic Priority Label .......................................................................$4.80
    Insurance.............................................................................................$4.70
    Signature Confirmation...required by PayPal for all sales over $250....$1.95

    You do the math to see if he overcharged you.

    That's one of the reason I look for free shipping auctions.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you did not like the shipping price why did you bid on the item. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Generally priority service is a waste of money when first class is just as good for less than half the price. I don't care for it either when a seller wastes my money on unnecessary postage. I'm not so sure I agree that sig conf is a cost that shud be borne by the buyer.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • A $265 coin should be casually tossed into a bubble mailer and sent with signature confirmation only, for less than 4 bucks...
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭


    << <i>What would you do? >>

    Assuming the shipping charge was listed in the auction, I'd do what you did- pay the seller. The time to take a stand on the question of "excessive shipping" is before you bid.

    But you already know that, right? image
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A slabbed coin CAN be sent wrapped in bubble pack and put into a cardboard box for less than priority rates.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭
    Lots of things CAN be done, none of which are relevant if they're not shipping options available in the auction you're thinking of bidding on.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mailman is hungrier where that guy lives.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    That's most likely the profit on the coin. image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Still less than Stacks, Heritage, Teletrade, Bowers, David Lawrence etc....

    As long as you factored it into your auction bid then what's the big commotion?
  • PapiPapi Posts: 1,189 ✭✭


    << <i>if its a brick & mortar shop >>



    What does this term mean?
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's what was stated....that's what you pay. >>



    agree 100%
  • RMLTM79RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
    Just factor the shipping into your max bid...problem solved.
  • You guys crack me up. You'll spend $4k on a dime but complain about $10 shippingimage. Really though. Just add it into the cost of item. Why is it only eBay sellers get hammered about charging a few bucks extra on shipping? Show me one place that doesn't over charge on shipping. Everything you order from TV or Website has overpriced S&H. Don't forget to complain it took 3 days to receive it. What about when you order something from a TV ad, catalog, US Mint, Big Retailer ect... and it takes 4-6 weeks for shipping & they charge you $12.95 for something they ship for $2?

    I say it every time I see one of these threads. What does it matter if the coins was $90 & shipping is $10 or shipping is $90 & Coin is $10? They both equal $100!
    Its all relative
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BTW, I've already paid without comment.


    ...why comment here?
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,446 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, I've already paid without comment.


    ...why comment here? >>



    To get this in: "I'm thinking I'll thank him for making me look good as a seller."
    Easy way to spam the forum again image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615


    << <i>A slabbed coin CAN be sent wrapped in bubble pack and put into a cardboard box for less than priority rates. >>



    Then you have to buy the bubble wrap, buy the box, keep the inventory, etc. Its a pain, so I use priority boxes for everything over $50, its too much hassle to deal with lost packages, damaged goods, etc.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, I've already paid without comment.


    ...why comment here? >>



    Just because I know this is a favorite subject here.

    I agree the coins should be sent for #4 without insurance but know that some don't agree and I wouldn't argue with them.

    One point made above--maybe he didn't separate out the signature confirmation. My initial thought was that he was wasting several $ on insurance while not getting the sig conf... but maybe that is $2 I didn't figure in.

    I don't know if I stole it or not but it went for less than my snipe...it is in an RB holder but looks BN. I paid BN money for it. We'll see what it looks like in hand. It is my father's birthyear. I haven't been able to find a nice RD so I thought I'd grab this one, at least for the interim. Since they mob hasn't accumulated to lynch the seller I'll go ahead and post the link.the link.

    --Jerry
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>BTW, I've already paid without comment.


    ...why comment here? >>



    To get this in: "I'm thinking I'll thank him for making me look good as a seller."
    Easy way to spam the forum again image >>



    You're as much of an ass as ever. Crawl back under your bridge if you don't want me pointing out all the crap in your posts. --Jerry
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,446 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>BTW, I've already paid without comment.


    ...why comment here? >>



    To get this in: "I'm thinking I'll thank him for making me look good as a seller."
    Easy way to spam the forum again image >>



    You're as much of an ass as ever. Crawl back under your bridge if you don't want me pointing out all the crap in your posts. --Jerry >>



    Take your threats and spam them too image
    I call 'em like I see 'em. Almost every post you do, you point out your sales and how "great of a seller you are". Am I wrong about that? Are you saying we won't find that in most of your posts? image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486


    << <i>A $265 coin should be casually tossed into a bubble mailer and sent with signature confirmation only, for less than 4 bucks... >>

    image
  • MPLunaticMPLunatic Posts: 617 ✭✭


    << <i>You guys crack me up. You'll spend $4k on a dime but complain about $10 shippingimage. Really though. Just add it into the cost of item. Why is it only eBay sellers get hammered about charging a few bucks extra on shipping? Show me one place that doesn't over charge on shipping. Everything you order from TV or Website has overpriced S&H. Don't forget to complain it took 3 days to receive it. What about when you order something from a TV ad, catalog, US Mint, Big Retailer ect... and it takes 4-6 weeks for shipping & they charge you $12.95 for something they ship for $2?

    I say it every time I see one of these threads. What does it matter if the coins was $90 & shipping is $10 or shipping is $90 & Coin is $10? They both equal $100! >>



    serriously, jut look at how much pcgs charges for return shipping, if you do a quarterly freebie submission per se, than you have to pay a minimum of $18 for 1 coin and you can't have them combine it with another order(which it seems like it wouldnt be that hard to do afterall you can send it to them in 1 package, kind of wasteful imo), it cant possibly cost them that much for 1 coin, so everyone is making a little off the shipping, just how it goes
  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    Fact of the matter is, since the seller is 100% responsible for getting the coin to you, he can send it any way he feels comfortable with.
    My Registry Sets! PCGS Registry
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does it really matter what the shipping charges are? If Im willing to spend $300 total on a coin and the shipping charges are $20 than I will bid $280. The only difference with free shipping vs. charged shipping is that Ebay gets less of a cut on the total sale, why do you think they are pushing free shipping like crazy.

    JJ
    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Fact of the matter is, since the seller is 100% responsible for getting the coin to you, he can send it any way he feels comfortable with. >>



    You're right here. The seller chose priority mail, which some prefer over first class. The seller chose to insure an inexpensive coin at the high USPS rates. Bottom line is, about $9 were wasted. Not scammed but wasted.

    Bochi, you need to get back on your meds. Your delusions are getting worse.

    --Jerry
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Part of the problem is using Priority when First Class is sufficient (especially for one coin -- the difference could be $3 to $4 in cost). First class gets it there just as fast. I only use "priority" if there is no difference in cost with First Class (i.e. for heavier packages).

    Oh, and I recently paid $15 in shipping cost to a seller to ship a coin I paid $110 for, and was happy to do so! image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really think that's fair as anymore USPS rates are crazy.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>if its a brick & mortar shop >>



    What does this term mean? >>



    A B&M shop is an actual coin store that you can walk into to buy or sell coins as opposed to an internet web site dealer.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    A $265 coin should be casually tossed into a bubble mailer and sent with signature confirmation only, for less than 4 bucks...




    The only problem with the above statement is whenever I try to buy electronic signature I have to buy insurance and

    pay priority rates. Electronic signature is the one PP uses.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jerry,

    I know that you factored in this price of the shipping in calculating your bid, so you did not spend more than you expected. I do agree that priority mail, in many cases, is a waste of money, compared to first class. Over time, the amount of money wasted adds up.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>A slabbed coin CAN be sent wrapped in bubble pack and put into a cardboard box for less than priority rates. >>



    Then you have to buy the bubble wrap, buy the box, keep the inventory, etc. Its a pain, so I use priority boxes for everything over $50, its too much hassle to deal with lost packages, damaged goods, etc. >>



    I was just pointing out that it can be done if one has the materials available. What smoeone wants to do is up to them. If several sources are available, I'm more likely to avoid those sellers who I think go overboard/use overkill on shipping.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>You guys crack me up. You'll spend $4k on a dime but complain about $10 shippingimage. Really though. Just add it into the cost of item. Why is it only eBay sellers get hammered about charging a few bucks extra on shipping? Show me one place that doesn't over charge on shipping. Everything you order from TV or Website has overpriced S&H. Don't forget to complain it took 3 days to receive it. What about when you order something from a TV ad, catalog, US Mint, Big Retailer ect... and it takes 4-6 weeks for shipping & they charge you $12.95 for something they ship for $2?

    I say it every time I see one of these threads. What does it matter if the coins was $90 & shipping is $10 or shipping is $90 & Coin is $10? They both equal $100! >>



    serriously, jut look at how much pcgs charges for return shipping, if you do a quarterly freebie submission per se, than you have to pay a minimum of $18 for 1 coin and you can't have them combine it with another order(which it seems like it wouldnt be that hard to do afterall you can send it to them in 1 package, kind of wasteful imo), it cant possibly cost them that much for 1 coin, so everyone is making a little off the shipping, just how it goes >>



    If you ship 4 different orders to PCGS in the same package, its kind of obvious that they don't wish to go to the hassle of coordinating and keeping track of them until all are fished and then return them all in the same package. If your regular submission sat around for 45 days waiting for an economy job to get done, you'd likely be unhappy about that too.
    theknowitalltroll;

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