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1972 cent weighing 2.45g

went through a 1972p roll tonight and heard something different. one of the cents made a different clang noise, but i've heard it before.
so i searched for a canadian cent and found one(1983). it made the same sound and weighed 2.49g.

do ya think this '72 cent was struck on a canadian planchet? is this anything to be excited about?


figglehorn

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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Hmm, I don't think the mint made cent planchets for the Canadian Mint....Perhaps it was struck on incorrectly rolled planchet stock?



    -Paul
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Does it look like one of those thin acid dipped cents?
    They make a funny sound.

    image
    Ed
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    a thin planchet error? it should be 3.1 grams for a `72 1c
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are many ways your coin could have wound up underweight, some within the mint and some after the strike. Is the coin the correct diameter or slightly smaller? Is the design fully struck on both sides or weak? Is the coin a normal copper color somewhere between red and brown or is it more of a silver or grey? Are the surfaces normal, striated, granular, or wavy? A picture would help immensely if you have a way of taking one.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    here you go,

    image

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    The planchet is a little bit thinner, I should have taken a side shot for comparison.
    figglehorn
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Interesting. It doesn't look like it has been messed with to me. Struck on a thin planchet.



    -Paul
  • tjc2120tjc2120 Posts: 714
    My guess is thin planchet - looks like copper and the entire image is present but not enough metal to even fill the die (seen on reverse). I don't think it is post mint damage - looks like planchet marks rather than wear.

    edit: too slow
    "spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an interesting candidate:

    1972-D 1C Cent--One Cent on Type One Philippine 5S planchet, 2.4 Grams--MS60 NGC.

    Now you need to check if those Philippines pieces might have been struck in Philly also...
  • tjc2120tjc2120 Posts: 714
    very cool
    "spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Nice one! image

    Ed
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting find.... and good ear ...image Cheers, RickO
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's an interesting candidate:

    1972-D 1C Cent--One Cent on Type One Philippine 5S planchet, 2.4 Grams--MS60 NGC.

    Now you need to check if those Philippines pieces might have been struck in Philly also... >>



    I believe the Philippines coins are a golden color though.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the nice scans of the '72 cent,
    and the color, weakness of strike in the
    center, etc., I'd say the odds are that it's
    struck on a rolled thin planchet.....
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>Based on the nice scans of the '72 cent,
    and the color, weakness of strike in the
    center, etc., I'd say the odds are that it's
    struck on a rolled thin planchet..... >>




    Is it worth anything Fred..Can it be slabbed as a error? Thanks.
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    here's some more,cent in question on right. it's hard to get a true feel for the coin from these pics.

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    image

    should I send this to anyone for an expert opinion? any suggestions.
    figglehorn
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034


    << <i>should I send this to anyone for an expert opinion? any suggestions. >>



    Fred Weinberg not good enough? image
    imageRIP
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    wow robb that's a great comment.

    i'm just saying i don't know what to do with it.you cannot get an accurate opinion from just the pictures.
    just asking for a little help here, that's all.
    figglehorn
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can it be slabbed as a error? >>



    I'd say YES.

    image
    Ed
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>wow robb that's a great comment.

    i'm just saying i don't know what to do with it.you cannot get an accurate opinion from just the pictures.
    just asking for a little help here, that's all. >>



    Put it in a flip or a 2x2, and write "Rolled thin planchet 2.45g" on it. Honestly, there's not much to be gained value-wise by putting that into a slab, it's an uncommon error but there are just not enough collectors interested in such a piece to drive the price. If you want to sell it, the pictures you've shown here (especially the side view and the one on the scale) are more than enough to convince a buyer that the coin is accurately attributed.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good Mornin ' --


    As Sean says, put it in a 2x2 flip.

    It's not worth the submission fees/postage/etc
    that you would pay for any of the 3-4 services.

    And, it wouldn't show up very well in the holder.

    Value? I'd say it's worth $15-$20 retail, tops.

    Hope this helps...
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.

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