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In another thread, someone mentioned dipping is doctoring.

How about the early copper guys? Are they doctoring their coins by brushing them or using blue ribbion?

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ........may be more like preserving.image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dipping is NOT doctoring. Case frikken closed. Cheers, RickO
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    Dipping is not doctoring, sorry.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    define doctoring might help perhaps.

    to me doctoring a coin is changing its appearance.. and dipping can
    be part of that set of tools a doctor uses to complete their task. if
    putting artifical toning on a coin is doctoring.. removing toning is
    also included.

    you will find that dipping is such a part of this hobby that these people
    do not want to be lumped in with the doctors of the hobby who consider
    dipping just another tool to get their task completed.

    frankly... coin collectors, as a whole and over time, have shown they are a terrible bunch when it comes to handling
    coins and cannot resist messing with them.

    thank you robb. you know what i mean. edited last chunk of post.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so maybe if it's not doctoring, it's at least nursing????

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doctoring is adding or moving metal or deceptively altering surfaces with the intent to increase the value of the coin IMO ..................dipping is removing something that wasn't there when it left the mint. While I don't like the thought of dipping, I don't remotely consider it doctoring. I guess a good quick dip is ok for a lot of collectors and will enhance some otherwise butt ugly coins............MJ
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dipping is NOT doctoring. Case frikken closed. Cheers, RickO >>



    So removal of metal from the surface of a coin by chemical means to alter the surfaces is not doctoring? Absurd. If it is your coin that has turned in the holder after somone has dipped it how would you feel? I think you would look at dipping in an entirely different light.

    john
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Doctoring is adding or moving metal or deceptively altering surfaces with the intent to increase the value of the coin IMO ..................dipping is removing something that wasn't there when it left the mint. While I don't like the thought of dipping, I don't remotely consider it doctoring. I guess a good quick dip is ok for a lot of collectors and will enhance some otherwise butt ugly coins............MJ >>




    Wrong. Not only does it remove the oxidation but also a small amount of the metal surface of the coin itself. That is alteration of the surface, and depending how long/ how many times the coin is dipped, it will burn out the luster of a coin.

    john
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In another thread, someone mentioned dipping is doctoring.

    How about the early copper guys? Are they doctoring their coins by brushing them or using blue ribbion? >>



    While I would deem their actions doctoring, the majority of copper enthusiasts would call it conservation and view it as necessary to protect the coin's surfaces.

    FWIW, I also consider dipping to be doctoring, however just like brusing/oiling coins is viewed by the EAC, many seem to consider it an acceptable practice.

    That said, I consider any intentional alteration of a coin to be doctoring -- whether by addition or subtraction. However, I readily admit to be a more broad interpretation of the term than many use....Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<Wrong. Not only does it remove the oxidation but also a small amount of the metal surface of the coin itself. That is alteration of the surface, and depending how long/ how many times the coin is dipped, it will burn out the luster of a coin. >>

    Of course repeated dipping or a long dip could kill the coin. That's why I prefaced my comment with a "quick dip". I also mentioned dipping wasn't for me, but I still don't consider it doctoring. The TPG's or CAC don't consider dipping doctoring either. That doesn't make it right or wrong. It just make's it what it is.................I can live with that. It's up to me to buy what I want to buy........In a lot of cases there is no way to tell with 100% certainty if a coin was dipped or not. One can only surmize and assume. MJ

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