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RIP STEVE McNAIR

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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭
    seriously? Who's reporting that? I just checked CNN, FoxSports, ESPN and Yahoo. None have it.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    sorry, i shouldve included a link..

    http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=10644018

    do a google news search and you'lls ee more reports.. i'd love to think they were wrong, but it appears to be correct..
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  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭
    link

    All over the Nashville news.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Originally reported as a double homicide, now said to be a murder/suicide.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭
    WTF!!!

    What a tragedy........RIP Steve McNair
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    299 items appearing on ebay search for "steve mcnair"...wonder what that number will look like tomorrow.

    RIP
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    Wow... incredible. I can't recall a month stretch where so many celebrities have left us.

    McNair was one of my favorite QBs in the 90s, he was electric when he first hit the NFL.

    Rest in peace, Steve.

    Snorto~
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>299 items appearing on ebay search for "steve mcnair"...wonder what that number will look like tomorrow.

    RIP >>



    i dunno, but i might list whatever i've got..
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    wow. just heard the news on the radio as I passed the stadium on the way to a ballgame. happened a block behind one of our remote offices. downtown is jam packed with the fireworks show starting around 8. location was a little south of downtown.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • This is getting out of control.RIP
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭✭
    Good QB.

    Being from the Peoples Republic of Maryland , I was sure glad when he arrived . What a warrior !!!!

    I , and many others , will miss him .
    " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    Very tragic. RIP
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • Too many death this year what the heck????

    Who next??? Barry Bonds?
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i remember watching him light up teams at alcorn state while i still lived in MS,
    dam this is friggin senseless..



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    RIP GURU
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    He was certainly a childhood favorite and, by all accounts, good man. It's tragic.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    RIP very sad!! There is something on ESPN Now.
  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭
    So sad. What a warrior and a real good QB...

    RIP

  • purduepetepurduepete Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    WOW...what a tragedy! RIP Mr. McNair.
    Tom

    Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,470 ✭✭✭
    this is just sad news

    i loved to watch him play

    RIP
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • kidzfundkidzfund Posts: 565 ✭✭✭
    Just way too young. Very tragic.

    Joe
  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭
    To say the guy is a hero in the Nashville area would be an understatement.

    Local news is saying that the residence was McNair's rented property.
  • Goodsport40Goodsport40 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭
    Local news here in Nashville reports that the apartment/condo was his rented residence with no sign of forced entry. Certainly appears to be a murder/suicide.

    It may be hard for those outside of the Nashville area to realize what an icon he was in this town. RIP.
  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I may be hard for those outside of the Nashville area to realize what an icon he was in this town. RIP. >>



    Agreed. For those not aware Steve had just opened a restaurant in Nashville 2 weeks ago.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    What a shame, Always a class guy! RIP image
  • Goodsport40Goodsport40 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭
    Here is an updated link for those interested:

    Story Link
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Man that sucks. He seemed like a great guy.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I may be hard for those outside of the Nashville area to realize what an icon he was in this town. RIP. >>



    Agreed. For those not aware Steve had just opened a restaurant in Nashville 2 weeks ago. >>




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    He was a HUGE celebrity there and elsewhere.

    I landed a bit ago in a smalltown in the NW US. The folks are all
    talking about the murders.

    I hope his fans stick with their position and help insulate his family
    from the inevitable caca that is about to unfold.

    Sometimes, it is good to remember the positive contributions that
    a departed celebrity made in life, and to be soft when judging their
    mistakes and foibles.


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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Its sad when one of the good guys in football dies. He was shot to death i could see if it was Pacman Jones but Steve McNair? Air McNair you will be missed.
  • DrJDrJ Posts: 2,213
    RIP., though it sounds like his mistress might have turned on him (rented apartment, car registered in both of their names). I feel for his family which now has to deal with the father/husband's poor decision for the rest of their lives.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    "While Metro Police has reported that details are sketchy, NashvillePost.com sources say that at approximately 2 a.m. Saturday morning, McNair was celebrating the holidays at the Blue Moon Restaurant near the John C. Tune Airport.

    According to the same NashvillePost.com sources, a white woman in her early 20s, around 5-foot-4, approached McNair at the restaurant and accused him of slipping her a “roofie” a year ago.

    The woman then told McNair, according to sources, that her boyfriend was going to kill him.

    Roofie is a slang term for Rohypnol, a sedative dating back to the early 1970s that is used in hospitals for deep sedation, but is now a fairly infamous date-rape drug.

    Multiple sources have confirmed that this information has been shared with the Metro Police Department. Metro Police has yet to identify the dead woman, but is it unknown if the woman at the restaurant is the same woman found in the condo."

    PoppaJ
  • Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭
    What a waste. So young to pass. RIP
  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure the ebay vampires are feeding tonight.
    Kiss me once, shame on you.
    Kiss me twice.....let's party.
  • Goodsport40Goodsport40 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭
    This story keeps getting worse by the hour. It is a shame for the family.
  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭
    Yep, this is gonna get strange. Apparently Steve was in a vehicle with the deceased when she was arrested for DUI 2 days ago. The vehicle was registered to both of them. The local police will not comment but the news is calling it a murder/suicide.
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    I didnt read the story, so I don't know. He seemed like a good guy, so that's how I will handle this. RIP. Tragic, for sure.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Maybe the NFL will use this in their "Welcome to the NFL, Rookie" orientation in the future. Just because you are rich and famous does not give you the right to go out and do what you want while your wife is at home with four children. It is still a horrible tragedy, but it could have been prevented. I know for a fact that wide out #8 6 does the same thing in Pittsburgh and every time I see him on TV working with children from single mother homes I cannot think of anything but what he does when he leaves his wife at home with his kids. You would think with his hard knock story he would be different.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    The popo are chatting the exbo up.

    Check out his song and his opening intro.

    "Never let anyone or anything come in between you and the one you love because when you do you lose everything."

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    "I Want You BacK" Jackson 5

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    ruh roh


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    TMZ freakydeeky

    In 2003, Steve McNair was charged with a DUI when he was pulled over on 12th and Broadway in Nashville by a cop named Shawn Taylor.

    On July 2, 2009, Sahel Kazemi (the dead woman) was pulled over at 12th and Broadway in Nashville for a DUI by the same cop...........Shawn Taylor.

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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • RIP coming from the Steeler Nation...
    McNair was one of the old division foes who always gave us trouble. Also, RIP the Houston Oilers, both will be missed greatly.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Former NFL quarterback McNair killed in Tennessee

    Former quarterback Steve McNair shot dead

    By KRISTIN M. HALL, Associated Press Writer Kristin M. Hall, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 1 min ago

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Former NFL quarterback Steve McNair, who led the famous Tennessee Titans' drive that came a yard short of forcing overtime in the 2000 Super Bowl, was found dead Saturday with multiple gunshot wounds, including one to the head. Police said a pistol was discovered near the body of a woman also shot dead in a downtown condominium.

    Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron identified the woman as 20-year-old Sahel Kazemi, whom he called a "friend" of McNair's. She had a single gunshot wound to the head.

    Police said the 36-year-old McNair was found on the sofa in the living room, and Kazemi was very close to him on the floor. Aaron said the gun was not "readily apparent" when police first arrived.

    Autopsies were planned for Sunday.

    Aaron said McNair's wife, Mechelle, is "very distraught."

    "At this juncture, we do not believe she is involved," he said. "Nothing has been ruled out, but as far as actively looking for a suspect tonight, the answer would be no."

    Fred McNair, Steve McNair's oldest brother, said some family members likely will travel to Nashville on Monday to consult with Steve McNair's wife.

    "It's still kind of hard to believe," Fred McNair said. "He was the greatest person in the world. He gave back to the community. He loved kids and he wanted to be a role model to kids."

    He said he did not know who Kazemi was.

    The bodies were discovered Saturday afternoon by McNair's longtime friend, Wayne Neeley, who said he rents the condo with McNair.

    Aaron said Neeley told authorities he went into the condo, saw McNair on the sofa and Kazemi on the floor but walked first into the kitchen before going back into the living room, where he saw the blood.

    Neeley then called a friend, who alerted authorities.

    Police said a witness saw McNair arrive at the condo in the upscale Rutledge Hill neighborhood between 1:30 and 2 a.m. Saturday and that Kazemi's vehicle was already there. The condominium is located within walking distance of an area filled with restaurants and nightspots, a few blocks from the Cumberland River and within view of the Titans' stadium.

    Two days ago, Nashville police arrested Kazemi on a DUI charge while driving a 2007 Escalade registered to her and McNair. McNair was in the front seat, but didn't break the law and was allowed to leave by taxi.

    The arrest affidavit said Kazemi had bloodshot eyes and the smell of alcohol on her breath, but refused a breathalyzer test, saying "she was not drunk, she was high."

    McNair and his family frequented the restaurant where Kazemi was a waitress, according employees and patrons of Dave & Buster's in Nashville. Keith Norfleet, Kazemi's ex-boyfriend, told The Tennessean newspaper that McNair and Kazemi met at the restaurant.

    "She was reliable 90 percent of the time," manager Chris Truelove said of Kazemi. "She was pretty outgoing. A lot of the guests liked being around her, and she liked being around the guests."

    Co-worker Shantez Jobe, 33, she said was friends with Kazemi.

    "We talked about who had more fashion sense, and who was the cutest, and who could get more boys, you know some of the stuff girls do," Jobe said.

    In June, McNair opened a restaurant near the Tennessee State University campus. It was closed Saturday evening, but had become a small memorial, where flowers, candles and notes had been placed outside the door.

    On the restaurant's windows were messages: "We will miss you Steve" and "We love you Steve."

    A note attached to a small blue teddy bear read, "We will never forget you, Steve. Once a Titan, always a Titan."

    "We don't know the details, but it is a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to the families involved," NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement.

    McNair, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, led the Titans to the 2000 Super Bowl, which they lost 23-16 to the St. Louis Rams. He was co-MVP of the NFL with Colts quarterback Peyton Manning in 2003. He also played for the Baltimore Ravens before retiring in April 2008.

    His most notable moment came in that Super Bowl, when he led the Titans 87 yards in the final minute and 48 seconds, only to come up a yard short of making it a one-point game. Kevin Dyson caught his 9-yard pass, but was tackled at the 1-yard line by the Rams' Mike Jones. A made extra point in all likelihood would have sent the game to overtime.

    McNair accounted for all of Tennessee's yards in that drive, throwing for 48 yards and rushing for 14. The rest of the yardage came on penalties against the Rams. Before that, he brought the Titans back from a 16-0 deficit to tie the game.

    "If you were going to draw a football player, the physical part, the mental part, everything about being a professional, he is your guy," former Ravens and Titans teammate Samari Rolle said. "I can't even wrap my arms around it. It is a sad, sad day. The world lost a great man today."

    McNair grew up in rural Mount Olive, Miss., and became a nationally known college football star playing for Alcorn State, a Division I-AA school in his home state. He was so dominant in the Southwestern Athletic Conference, he became a Heisman Trophy contender. National media flocked to little Lorman in the southwest corner of the Magnolia state to get a look at "Air McNair." He still holds the Division I-AA (now known as Football Championship Subdivision) records for career yards passing (14,496) and total offense (16,823).

    McNair was the third overall draft pick in 1995 by the Houston Oilers, who eventually became the Titans. He finished his career with 31,304 yards passing and 174 touchdowns. McNair's rugged style led to numerous injuries and aches. He played with pain for several years, and the injuries ultimately forced him to retire.

    "On the field, there isn't a player that was as tough as him, especially at the quarterback position," the Ravens' Derrick Mason said. "What I have seen him play through on the field, and what he dealt with during the week to get ready for a game, I have never known a better teammate."

    During a five-game stretch at the end of the 2002 season, McNair was so bruised he couldn't practice. But he started all five games and won them, leading the Titans to an 11-5 record and a berth in the AFC championship game for the second time in four seasons.

    McNair played all 16 games in 2006, his first season in Baltimore, and guided the Ravens to a 13-3 record. But he injured his groin during the season opener in 2007 and never regained the form that put him in those Pro Bowls.

    "I am deeply saddened to learn of today's tragic news regarding the death of Steve McNair. He was a player who I admired a great deal," said New England Patriots senior football adviser Floyd Reese, who was GM of the Titans when McNair played for them. "He was a tremendous leader and an absolute warrior. He felt like it was his responsibility to lead by working hard every day, no matter what."

    Titans coach Jeff Fisher was out of the country, taking part in the first NFL-USO coaches tour to Iraq.

    Ozzie Newsome, Ravens executive vice president and general manager, said he immediately thought of McNair's four sons.

    "This is so, so sad. We immediately think of his family, his boys. They are all in our thoughts and prayers," he said "What we admired most about Steve when we played against him was his competitive spirit, and we were lucky enough to have that with us for two years. He is one of the best players in the NFL over the last 20 years."

    No funeral arrangements have been made.

  • Ladder7Ladder7 Posts: 1,221
    Mid-life crisis can be a deadly game. 20yo side order with a new escalade? This has jealous bf wrtten all over it. I feel for Ms McNair and all them kids.


  • << <i>I'm sure the ebay vampires are feeding tonight. >>



    And unfortunately, when sorted by highest price, the top 6 listings are all vultures trying to capitalize on McNair's death by selling registered domains. ($2000.00 - $500,000.00)
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    I was a diehard Houston Oiler fan my whole childhood, then pretty much lost all interest after 59 yr old Joe Montana and the Chiefs beat them in the first round of the playoffs for yet another disappointing end to a great regular season.

    When McNair was drafted, it renewed a small glimmer of hope and a little of my interest in following the NFL again. When the team moved to Tennessee, I did follow their progress. I knew with McNair and Eddie George, they had the potential to always put points on the board.

    Entering the 99/00 playoffs, I was primed for a Super Bowl run. That first game against Buffalo, a team who is forever hated by Oiler fans, was one of the most exciting endings I ever witnessed. McNair's reaction on the sidelines, with his expression of joy/disbelief, was always priceless to me.

    I've been trying to find a live replay of that play on Youtube all morning, but can't....somebody hook me up with a link if you have it.

    RIP Steve.

    edited to add link: Music City Miracle
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    This really sucks, what a tough player.

    If I had to hazard a guess I'd say he broke it off with the mistress (maybe because of the DUI and potential publicity) and she couldn't take it. Whatever the case, this is not going to work out well for the family.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...If I had to hazard a guess I'd say he broke it off with the mistress (maybe because of the DUI and potential publicity) and she couldn't take it..."

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    He bailed her out using a bondsman and signing his own name
    immediately after the arrest.

    Based on some of the blogs, their relationship was well known
    by the sports-bar and restaurant crowd in Nashville.

    The cops best forget what looks obvious on this one, and keep
    interviewing folks.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"...If I had to hazard a guess I'd say he broke it off with the mistress (maybe because of the DUI and potential publicity) and she couldn't take it..."

    ///////////////////////////////

    He bailed her out using a bondsman and signing his own name
    immediately after the arrest.

    Based on some of the blogs, their relationship was well known
    by the sports-bar and restaurant crowd in Nashville.

    The cops best forget what looks obvious on this one, and keep
    interviewing folks. >>



    Yes, definitely, "everything else" needs to be checked out. From what I understand, "these days" it's very difficult for someone to kill somebody and get away with rearranging the scene to make it look like a suicide because of techniques in analyzing blood splatter patterns, gunpowder fragments, and other data. Of course it still has to be properly analyzed and in a high profile case such as this, it certainly will be especially with the previously posted item of "According to the same NashvillePost.com sources, a white woman in her early 20s, around 5-foot-4, approached McNair at the restaurant and accused him of slipping her a “roofie” a year ago. The woman then told McNair, according to sources, that her boyfriend was going to kill him."

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Yes, definitely, "everything else" needs to be checked out. From what I understand, "these days" it's very difficult for someone to kill somebody and get away with rearranging the scene to make it look like a suicide because of techniques in analyzing blood splatter patterns, gunpowder fragments, and other data. Of course it still has to be properly analyzed and in a high profile case such as this, it certainly will be especially with the previously posted item of "According to the same NashvillePost.com sources, a white woman in her early 20s, around 5-foot-4, approached McNair at the restaurant and accused him of slipping her a “roofie” a year ago. The woman then told McNair, according to sources, that her boyfriend was going to kill him.""

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    Lots of rumors, but I hope the popo FULLY investigates them all.
    I am pretty concerned that they might not.

    ............

    Among the trash on the blogs:

    Gambling debts were involved.

    He had been trying to help an "Asian" woman get away from her abusive husband.

    Drug dealers involved with the woman did it.

    Iranian relatives of the woman were involved.

    (That is the kind of slime that the families and children of celebs have to endure
    when there is an unnatural death.)

    ........

    It has been 30-years since I dealt with the Nash popo. It was not a positive
    experience, and I can only hope they have rehabbed themselves.

    Maybe the FBI can insert itself, if some kind of "hate crime" can be theorized.
    That may be the only way to get at the truth of what really happened.

    ..............

    Sellers of SM's memorabilia will be blasted as ghouls, but they are likely
    acting prudently.




    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭
    Police spokesman says the gun was under the woman's body and that Steve received 4 shots. He says they are ruling Steve's death a homicide but not commenting on her death. He says that the couple had been dating for months according to friends.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Yes, definitely, "everything else" needs to be checked out. From what I understand, "these days" it's very difficult for someone to kill somebody and get away with rearranging the scene to make it look like a suicide because of techniques in analyzing blood splatter patterns, gunpowder fragments, and other data. Of course it still has to be properly analyzed and in a high profile case such as this, it certainly will be especially with the previously posted item of "According to the same NashvillePost.com sources, a white woman in her early 20s, around 5-foot-4, approached McNair at the restaurant and accused him of slipping her a “roofie” a year ago. The woman then told McNair, according to sources, that her boyfriend was going to kill him.""

    ////////////////////////////////

    Lots of rumors, but I hope the popo FULLY investigates them all.
    I am pretty concerned that they might not.

    ............

    Among the trash on the blogs:

    Gambling debts were involved.

    He had been trying to help an "Asian" woman get away from her abusive husband.

    Drug dealers involved with the woman did it.

    Iranian relatives of the woman were involved.

    (That is the kind of slime that the families and children of celebs have to endure
    when there is an unnatural death.)

    ........

    It has been 30-years since I dealt with the Nash popo. It was not a positive
    experience, and I can only hope they have rehabbed themselves.

    Maybe the FBI can insert itself, if some kind of "hate crime" can be theorized.
    That may be the only way to get at the truth of what really happened.

    ..............

    Sellers of SM's memorabilia will be blasted as ghouls, but they are likely
    acting prudently. >>



    Because "on paper" it doesn't entirely make sense...I saw the woman's pic on the web...she's kinda cute, 20 years old, seems like she was a perky, outgoing friendly waitress, the type that might be frightened by a spider let alone shooting a handgun, and if McNair was dumping her, she could have easily found someone else in that area to date with some money in their pockets...maybe not as wealthy or famous as McNair but enough money to keep her happy. Besides, guys change their minds all the time in affairs such as this, and one day McNair dumps her, next week he might be calling her again for a date, so in my view it wouldn't be likely that this woman would "giveup" on the relationship and on life over whatever McNair said to her.

    But I'm not gonna pretend to fully understand any woman's emotions let alone this one, but suffice to say a few other quick facts that unless it's self-defense of some type, women are not usually killers, and women don't usually commit suicide with a gun...that's usually a guy's way of doing it. The case may seem closed and perhaps it is, but I agree that unless the forensics clearly shows it was a suicide, that some more investigation needs to be done.
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>But I'm not gonna pretend to fully understand any woman's emotions let alone this one, but suffice to say a few other quick facts that unless it's self-defense of some type, women are not usually killers, and women don't usually commit suicide with a gun...that's usually a guy's way of doing it. The case may seem closed and perhaps it is, but I agree that unless the forensics clearly shows it was a suicide, that some more investigation needs to be done. >>




    It just doesn't pay to cheat on your wife anymore.

    You find some hot young babe, do it on her kitchen sink once and then she goes whack on you.

    Next thing you know the kid's rabbit is being fricasseed on the stove. image
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