It's actually very interesting to me the number of guesses that are "cleaned"/"genuine" holders. If this particular coin were to come back as cleaned or altered surface or in a Genuine holder, I will be absolutely convinced that the vast majority of what we call "original looking crusty" 19th century coins that are in PCGS or NGC holders perhaps should not have been slabbed. I am quite anxious and definitely looking forward to the grading results of this coin. >>
You took the words out of my mouth. This coin is really sought out by Civil War Collectors (me for one, but at this point I can't afford one) and in the past, PCGS and NGC would have looked past the good intentioned cleaning that most of these coins have had and graded it. I think if they are to grade to their current standards, it will be "Genuine" slabbed. If they go by their past standards, my guess would be XF45 also. I hope it grades and I win the extensive lottery. XF45
Technical XF 40 coin. Not sure if it will holder though as this was very very dark at one time and was very gently worked imho with a cutting agent to lighten it slightly. Acetone or a similar product. Not that that makes a hill of beans difference to me or most that view this as a very nice original circ with no rim nicks or "real" problems. Theres probably 3 or 4 circulated seated dollars in the world that havent been cleaned and 2 of those are chinese counterfeits! Just kidding but seems that way as most are very harshly cleaned and this coin is more than market acceptable to me. The VAST majority of pre 1870 silver has been altered in some way whether its cabinet friction or an old wipe back in the day or a modern dip, ms70 or acetone job. That coins a LOOKER and if you brought it to my place to sell I wouldnt have a problem with buying it as a problem free piece. Whether the grading gods like that look on your coin or not is a day to day have I had my morning coffee yet type of thing.
<< <i>Very excited to report.... Slabbed a PCGS AU50
Congrats John... you did really good, the pics did not capture how good the coin was. Cosidering how tight they are right now I'd say that was quite an accomplishment!
Ok folks, I finally got around to pulling a winner out of a hat. Those that accurately graded that this 1862 Seated Liberty Dollar would grade a PCGS AU50 are:
Congrats on the grade dizzy, I've got an 1842 with about the same amount of wear and similiar patina that's in a PCGS XF-45 OGH. Suprised yours graded at 50 but it's a nice coin.
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Congratulations, that is quite the score. I don't think I've ever said this about one of your purchases before, but this time I am envious and jealous. The 1862 dollar is a very tough coin, with a mintage around 12,000 and a survival rate that is likely a small fraction of that.
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It's actually very interesting to me the number of guesses that are "cleaned"/"genuine" holders. If this particular coin were to come back as cleaned or altered surface or in a Genuine holder, I will be absolutely convinced that the vast majority of what we call "original looking crusty" 19th century coins that are in PCGS or NGC holders perhaps should not have been slabbed. I am quite anxious and definitely looking forward to the grading results of this coin. >>
You took the words out of my mouth. This coin is really sought out by Civil War Collectors (me for one, but at this point I can't afford one) and in the past, PCGS and NGC would have looked past the good intentioned cleaning that most of these coins have had and graded it. I think if they are to grade to their current standards, it will be "Genuine" slabbed. If they go by their past standards, my guess would be XF45 also. I hope it grades and I win the extensive lottery. XF45
a cutting agent to lighten it slightly. Acetone or a similar product. Not that that makes a hill of beans difference to me or most that view this as a very nice original circ with no rim nicks or "real" problems. Theres probably 3 or 4 circulated seated dollars in the world that havent been cleaned and 2 of those are chinese counterfeits! Just kidding but seems that way as most are very harshly cleaned and this coin is more than market acceptable to me. The VAST majority of pre 1870 silver has been altered in some way whether its cabinet friction or an old wipe back in the day or a modern dip, ms70 or acetone job. That coins a LOOKER and if you brought it to my place to sell I wouldnt have a problem with buying it as a problem free piece. Whether the grading gods like that look on your coin or not is a day to day have I had my morning coffee yet type of thing.
I'll announce who's name of those who guessed AU50 that I pull out of the hat later this evening....
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<< <i>Very excited to report.... Slabbed a PCGS AU50
Congrats John... you did really good, the pics did not capture how good the coin was. Cosidering how tight they are right now I'd say that was quite an accomplishment!
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....and the winner is:
crazyhounddog!!!
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<< <i>Very excited to report.... Slabbed a PCGS AU50
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Congratulations, that is quite the score. I don't think I've ever said this about one of your purchases before, but this time I am envious and jealous. The 1862 dollar is a very tough coin, with a mintage around 12,000 and a survival rate that is likely a small fraction of that.
<< <i>Very excited to report.... Slabbed a PCGS AU50
Congratulations!!!