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WINNER ANNOUNCED!!! (-: Give--Away Guess the Grade of this raw 1862 Seated Liberty $1

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dizzyfoxx, My pawn shop comment was more so based on the capitol holder as almost every such store I've ever ventured to that had a coin section has their better coins in such holders. Also they are normally covered with multiple stickers with tons of BS written one em to justify the high asking price.
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>dizzyfoxx, My pawn shop comment was more so based on the capitol holder as almost every such store I've ever ventured to that had a coin section has their better coins in such holders. Also they are normally covered with multiple stickers with tons of BS written one em to justify the high asking price. >>



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say VF35.

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  • VF 30, but what do I knowimage
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  • XF-45, nice pickup! If I win the giveaway, please donate to a YN. Why can't I find this date in XF? image
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    Genuine. Thanks for the chance and happy 4th!
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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    53.

    For comparison, and since so many here have guessed EF 45, go look at the 1845 PCGS 45 on ebay right now with a BIN of $1299.
    If this 1862 has not been messed with, it is at least 50.
  • I believe that PCGS will stupidly put this coin in a "genuine" holder for an old cleaning. My grade would be XF45.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭

    I'm going to say that it will come back as Genuine for the record (but I think it has the details of a nice 45, perhaps an AU if I were to see the coin in person).

    Still a very tough coin, and I like it!

    Find a deserving YN for the prize if I win, please.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    XF45 details, cleaned.
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>XF45 details, cleaned. >>



    It's actually very interesting to me the number of guesses that are "cleaned"/"genuine" holders. If this particular coin were to come back as cleaned or altered surface or in a Genuine holder, I will be absolutely convinced that the vast majority of what we call "original looking crusty" 19th century coins that are in PCGS or NGC holders perhaps should not have been slabbed. I am quite anxious and definitely looking forward to the grading results of this coin.
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  • EF45
  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭✭
    45
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  • XF40
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>XF45 details, cleaned. >>



    It's actually very interesting to me the number of guesses that are "cleaned"/"genuine" holders. If this particular coin were to come back as cleaned or altered surface or in a Genuine holder, I will be absolutely convinced that the vast majority of what I call "original looking crusty" 19th century coins that are in PCGS or NGC holders perhaps should not have been slabbed. I am quite anxious and definitely looking forward to the grading results of this coin. >>



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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    FWIW, I also feel the coin was once wiped, but it was done a long time ago and the coin will be deemed market acceptable.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like it was polished.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very tough call for reasons already mentioned- I will go with EF40.

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  • I'll guess xf40.
    Thanks for the chance.
    Nice giveaway.
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    At PCGS it is way to dark to go AU imho. I have an 1848 that's similar and it's in an XF-40 holder, I'll give yours the XF-45 grade just cause the obverse doesn't appear to have the common flat chest from wear.

    As with all the civil war dates, they are extremely difficult to find in XF to low AU! Congrats!
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  • Will the reverse of this coin not be taken into consideration when determining the grade?
  • PCGS has been tough lately....oh I forgot ....always tough....That's what makes them the best...I would expect a XF40 and good chance @ XF45
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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's been cleaned, so will return "genuine" but it's a nice coin that I would enjoy having myself!
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Will the reverse of this coin not be taken into consideration when determining the grade? >>



    you will need to scroll far to the right to see the reverse
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine - 97 Environmental damage

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of the members that are guessing in the VF range are just brutal!

    I really like the looks of the coin and it's a coin that I would purchase ( BTW,very nice images DF :ThumbsUpimage

    Minimum 45, maximum (and i'm an amature) is a 55, but in reality I will throw out a 50.

    Ray
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    xf45
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭✭
    35

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-50

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  • AU-50 Very nice
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-50
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  • TCoinsTCoins Posts: 566 ✭✭
    xf40
  • au50 nice coin hope it goes higher.
  • cucamongacoincucamongacoin Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭
    genuine
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315
    Wrong forum as stated earlier


    My wag xf40


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  • XF 45
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    40
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    XF-40 NET
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice dollar! I would guess an AU50?
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine


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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    I think it'll grade @ EF-45. Thanks for the giveaway.
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45... Nice & crusty too...
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    something was done to that coin to make it lose its luster in the most
    incredibly hard to get at areas. polished, genuine holder.

    but then pcgs is quite liberal in my book and will probably grade it
    xf45.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks to me like a very nice xf45.
  • blue594blue594 Posts: 550
    Genuine-Cleaned.

    I really like it.

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-55 or maybe even 58. A very nice coin and tough date. Congrats on ths pickup. I see no problem with it and wouldn't mind haveing it in my collection. Seated dollars are tough to find so nice. Strong strike also.image
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  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>40/45, altered surfaces, also only going by the pics, it may be better in hand. Tough date! >>



    Im late to this thread, but this is my guess also.
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  • DDRDDR Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine. Something about the surfaces...

    Thanks for the give away!
  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    100

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