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Who likes a 1922 no D Lincoln?

I hate 'em and think they are ugly. When (if) my lincoln set is "complete" it will not include the 22 no D.

I agree its rare but feel it is unattractive and, as an variety, not very interesting. It's just a chance result from an overpolished die combined with a quirk in the Mint's production plan.

So what am I missing about it?

Edited: typo in thread title
"spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"

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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Can't find the pic of Stewart's 64RD but if I did, it would change your mind. image
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. Finding an attractive specimen regardless of grade is almost impossible. I've owned five or six of them from VF to AU, and the prettiest one was a VF35! I saw one real nice AU55 coin, but it slipped away. Even the high end MS coins are dogs IMHO. Since I sold my MS registry set, I've avoided even looking at them anymore.



    << <i>Can't find the pic of Stewart's 64RD but if I did, it would change your mind. image >>



    That's a lie, too. I've seen that coin, and it's the sickest 64 I've ever laid eyes on, and that's saying something.
  • There are some attractive ones out there that have the great chocolate luster- They are not well struck, in general, but the higher grades they can be attractive. I left it out of my set but included the 55/55 and 72/72

    John
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    This date does tend to increase in price at a fairly rapid rate over time, so if nothing else it's a decent investment.

    I remember less than a decade ago you could get one of these in PCGS XF40 for about a grand, now they're at least three times that in the same grade and an F12 will run you a grand.

    Edited to add: talking about die pair #2 of course, not those "weak reverse" pretenders to the throne.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a big fan of the coin.

    It's only three different die state die combinations, and among those only the strong reverse has gotten a lot of acceptance. It really isn't needed to complete a Lincoln cent collection IMO. I've never had one in my "boyhood Lincoln cent collection." I almost put one in, but a dealer offered my $1,100.00 for it, and greed took over. I sold it.

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I've always liked them. Coins are like women, not all can be gorgeous but many can be quite unique. image
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  • BarbercoinBarbercoin Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭
    <<I've always liked them. Coins are like women, not all can be gorgeous but many can be quite unique. >>

    Interesting perspective, dizzyfoxx

    How true.

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  • This is another popular coin I will never spend a dime on. It has no interest to me, nor does it complete a Lincoln set to me. Its nothing more than another manufacturing error that is way over rated and way over priced.

    To each his own, but this coin is just a waste of money to me. I know I might get flamed abit for saying that, but its my opinion and I am sticking to it. image
  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    There is no question that the 1922 no D (die state #2) is not a very good example of a nice strike Lincoln cent. The fact is most of us collectors tend to accept what the "experts" say as to what makes up a Lincoln cent collection. In today's world the PCGS Set Registry is becoming a major decider. We have the basic set. We have the basic set with MAJOR varieties. We have the complete set which includes all the basic set coins + all the MAJOR varieties + all the other MINOR varieties that have been recognized. We each get to chose what we consider to be a complete set. For the Lincoln cent series I choose to collect the basic set + all the MAJOR varieties. Steveimage
  • 1922 plain is the only coin I'm missing from my complete PCGS mint state set of Wheats. Although I am sometimes upgrading or replacing specimens, I have never considered the 22 plain a necessity. But I will probably get one, some day.
  • You may feel the 22 No D is ugly, but it is really the most unusual because it is the only Lincoln graded byN the reverse. The die 2 has always had very strong market value and always increased yearly.
    A 'complete Lincoln set' can be called complete without this die 2 variety because it is a variety. There is a true 22-D. To me over rated and over priced are 'all' the double die varieties and RPMs. Then starting in the 90s the new craze was the 'wide AM variety'. None of these ever interested me. So to all Lincoln collectors get the entire set &if along the way 1 or 2 varieties catch your eye, get them. I think the 22 No D, die 2 only, is a valuable investment.
    Tip
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    I found Stewarts image on Shylock's site: coingallery.org.

    image
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! Is that a 63RB?
  • tjc2120tjc2120 Posts: 714


    << <i>image >>




    Ok, that one is nice. I would allow it in my collection. I'll just look at Teletrade's Sunday auction and see if I can pick one up.
    "spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back years ago when I was a collector, I purchased a really choice one from Ira stein, a PCGS-53. One of the nicest Au's I had seen .Course it has long since been sold now.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me!

    It's an error. not much more to say.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,579 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is another popular coin I will never spend a dime on. It has no interest to me, nor does it complete a Lincoln set to me. Its nothing more than another manufacturing error that is way over rated and way over priced.

    To each his own, but this coin is just a waste of money to me. I know I might get flamed abit for saying that, but its my opinion and I am sticking to it. image >>




    well, price is another story.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,093 ✭✭✭
    imageimage

    NGC MS64RB from the upcoming Bowers & Merena auction. I think it's pretty nice looking.

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  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561


    << <i>image >>




    That is Stewart's coin. Strongest strike that I have ever seen on a '22 no D (die pair #2). A beautiful example of the variety and undoubtedly one of the first strikes from that die pair.
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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A product of budget cuts and poor quality control. No, I'm not fond of the plain although I'm very smitten by the '22-D.
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like a nice mint state 22 no D
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  • The coin itself is problematic with rare attractive examples. But I love the story.

    How was this "no-D" Lincoln discovered? When it was realized that there were Philly 1922 cents in circulation when no Philly cents had been minted that year. imageimageimage !!!

    The unfolding story of initial discovery and eventual recognition is fascinating, but it all began with the simple fact that Philly minted no cents in 1922.

    Rob
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