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Universities dumping marching bands and cheerleaders to save money

MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
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Florida International University has dropped their marching band and cheerleaders from games in order to cut $1 million from
their athletic budget.

How do you feel about universities cutting in this way to save money in tight budget times?

Cut less popular sports or save the bands and cheerleaders?

Could you imagine Notre Dame with no band or cheerleaders at a football game? It would seem really strange.

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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    That's what happens when you let Isiah Thomas in your door......bad things happen
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    I don't like it but I can see why it's happening. It's also an easy target relative to cutting less popular sports, which could be a potential Title IX minefield.
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  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    I think one of the reasons I love baseball so much is because there aren't any cheerleaders.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭
    Dropping cheerleaders is a terrible idea.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea, I guess some if not many profs working a few hours a week who do little or nothing and make 6 figure plus salaries...wouldn't want to cut that...and wouldn't wanna cut the university president's bloated salary and the "administrators" who likely are grossly overpaid...horrors, don't do any of that which makes sense...punish the kids, right?
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
    At this point I don't think too many schools will dump bands and cheerleaders completely but there will
    probably be smaller bands and fewer cheerleaders than in the past, also, bands may travel to fewer
    games than in the past in order to cut down on travel and other related expenses.
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>
    Could you imagine Notre Dame with no band or cheerleaders at a football game? It would seem really strange. >>



    I dont think Notre Dame or any school that takes football very seriously would ever do it. FIU's a different story. They're a relatively new FBS school, without a winning season, and only draw about 10,000 per game. USF played them last year down in Miami to draw a decent opponent for the first game in their brand new 20,000 seat stadium. Attendance was only 15,000 or so and 3,000 of that was USF.... I can't wait to see "Coach Thomas'" face for their basketball games. I know he'll draw a lot of people in, but last year they would have games with like 500 people.

    A school with the athletic revenue of Florida, USC, Notre Dame, etc. will never face these problems, at least not in the forseeable future.
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>At this point I don't think too many schools will dump bands and cheerleaders completely but there will
    probably be smaller bands and fewer cheerleaders than in the past, also, bands may travel to fewer
    games than in the past in order to cut down on travel and other related expenses. >>



    I'm pretty sure we're still bringing our full band up to Tally for our game vs. FSU, but the team is going by bus rather than flying. Miami also announced that theyll bus up to Tampa for our game, and Tally for their game vs. FSU.
  • IchiroDeportedIchiroDeported Posts: 1,610 ✭
    what if you dropped them on your face?
  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358
    The only question is why didn't they do it so much sooner?

    They should cut all sports
    Tom
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  • loves2snowboardloves2snowboard Posts: 32
    Better way to save money would be to cut these coach's ridiculous salaries. No way any college coach should be making multi-millions per year coaching kids who can't even get a part time job to help put some cash in their pocket, while the school is cutting programs left and right just to stay solvent.
  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭


    << <i>Better way to save money would be to cut these coach's ridiculous salaries. No way any college coach should be making multi-millions per year coaching kids who can't even get a part time job to help put some cash in their pocket, while the school is cutting programs left and right just to stay solvent. >>



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  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
    Coaching salaires are out of control but it is like a runaway train with nobody at the controls, the NCAA has
    no control over the situation but have expressed their "concern". As long as a school thinks they can
    gain an advantage by offering a ton of money to a coach it is never going to stop. One coach making
    a ton of money just puts pressure on other schools to up the ante or end up looking like cheapstakes so
    it goes on and on...
  • CrimsonTiderCrimsonTider Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭
    Who really needs a band at a football game anyway. I say cut out all marching bands, high school and college. Save the money for the cool kids!
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    It's not going to happen to schools in BCS conferences. That system has guaranteed and concentrated almost all the college football revenues into those conferences and created a more or less "have" and "have not" caste system in Division 1-A football.
  • loves2snowboardloves2snowboard Posts: 32
    Yep, and schools in the mid-majors have to fight and claw simply to get an at-large bid. It's a sham of a system and insures the big name schools, especially those in the SEC, continue to funnel in a majority of the money and recruits. I'd love to see the NCAA institute a cap on what schools can pay their coaches.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yep, and schools in the mid-majors have to fight and claw simply to get an at-large bid. >>

    And if they're good enough to do so, you know they won't have their coach next year and their program will be pillaged by the BCS haves to the point of eliminating any chances of ascendancy they may have aspired to.
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭
    Why doesn't Notre Dame drop football? Surely that will be losing money soon, if it is not already.
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>Why doesn't Notre Dame drop football? Surely that will be losing money soon, if it is not already. >>



    Doubtful.

    From the Sports Business Journal:

    Texas ranked No. 1 in football with $72.95 million followed by Georgia with $67.05 million, Florida with $66.1 million, Ohio State with $65.16 million and Notre Dame with $59.77 million. The remaining 10 teams in football revenues were Auburn, Michigan (No. 7 with $ 57.46 million), Alabama (No. 8 with $57.37), Penn State University (No. 9 with 53.76 million) and LSU (10th with $52.68 million).

  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358
    You should know that a large number of college coaches make about $2000 or less per season
    Tom
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>You should know that a large number of college coaches make about $2000 or less per season >>



    $2,000? Maybe for D-2. Even the graduate assistants at USF are making $55k a year. BTW, USF has the smallest Athletics budget in the entire Big East for football playing members.
  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358
    Even the smallest Big East school is in the top 10% of all college athletic departments

    One year is how many seasons?

    If the lowest part-time assistants for all 17 sports are making that money, the very few guys at the top now seem extremely underpaid
    Tom
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>Even the smallest Big East school is in the top 10% of all college athletic departments

    One year is how many seasons?

    If the lowest part-time assistants for all 17 sports are making that money, the very few guys at the top now seem extremely underpaid >>




    One year=one season.

    But, I understand where you're coming from. I was thinking you were just talking about football, not across the board with all the other "non-revenue sports". Still though, most FL high schools pay their football coaches $3k-$8k a season.
  • loves2snowboardloves2snowboard Posts: 32


    << <i>You should know that a large number of college coaches make about $2000 or less per season >>



    Come on, we're talking about big schools, not some junior college. Even so, those coaches making 2000 a season are likely full time teachers at the college they coach at, and the $2000 is added to their salary.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    First of all if Notre Dame cut its cheerleaders no one would notice because they're all fat.

    Second, you can book it that THE Ohio State University will never cut the marching band, otherwise known as TBDBITL. ROCK ME!
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