<< <i>Well as we all know looks can be deceiving. I assure you that none of the cards below have any paper loss or creases. Well, no crease that could be detected by the submitter. The 59's I bought slabbed and the 66 I pulled from a pack in 66. I gave it the once over and submitted it with some other 66's that I cherry picked from my childhood set. My grades ranged from 7-9 with one 6 and this beautiful 3. I subbed the other checklist figuring it would pull a 6 at best and it came back a 7. The scan makes the corners of the 59's look soft, but in person they are sharp as 9's. Go figure. BTW, where is the original poster and what happened to his card? >>
Included in my first submittal to PSA was what I thought was a "mortal lock" 1965 Hunter rookie for a 9 possibly a 10, really a perfectly registered, centered, dead solid perfect baseball card, and it came back a 5 - I didn't understand grading at the time, and a few weeks later figured out and finally saw the tiniest little f*ing wrinkle.
And of course card grading "evolved" from coin grading, and I am a coin collector as well, in which a tiny scratch dramatically reduces the value of a proof coin, but as far as cardboard, should my Hunter card have graded lower than say a EX-MT 6 perhaps not printed as sharp, not well centered, with frayed corners and a dinged corner - Not in my viewpoint.
Well, not much anyone can do with card grading changes at this point but for sure, in my opinion, Great Lakes Auction House takes advantage of a buyer's lack of knowledge regarding card grading.
Sorry, I pretty much live at FCBS now, and come here when looking for vintage advice (they are more geared towards current stuff (I love both), but they do have a few vintage guys there too). Anyway, I emailed the seller and told him of my concerns and let him know that I started a thread and the people have "mixed" emotions. I asked if he would guarantee it to come back any grade. He said he would guarantee it not to be altered, but would not guarantee a grade, and he said he would relist it if I wasn't sure. So I never bought it. Based on his responses, especially after asking him if he ever cracks cards out of slabs and he wouldnt confirm or deny, just avoided that question, I would think that he does crack slabs, and some people just get lucky with a bump up.
Anyway, the bottom line is he was easy to work with. He will accept returns. So you can always look at the card in hand and then decide, but I figured it wasn't worth it. Perhaps if it sold for closer to a "5" price, I would have jumped on it...still a nice looking card.
The seller buys a lot of raw and graded. His buyer id is member524079241. The feedback is private but you can use goofbay.com to see what he's bid on.
He makes pretty good money from what I could see.
I will say I know of some show dealers who do the same thing, except in their case they're selling to buyers who can closely inspect the card before purchasing.
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<< <i>Well as we all know looks can be deceiving. I assure you that none of the cards below have any paper loss or creases. Well, no crease that could be detected by the submitter. The 59's I bought slabbed and the 66 I pulled from a pack in 66. I gave it the once over and submitted it with some other 66's that I cherry picked from my childhood set. My grades ranged from 7-9 with one 6 and this beautiful 3. I subbed the other checklist figuring it would pull a 6 at best and it came back a 7. The scan makes the corners of the 59's look soft, but in person they are sharp as 9's. Go figure. BTW, where is the original poster and what happened to his card?
Included in my first submittal to PSA was what I thought was a "mortal lock" 1965 Hunter rookie for a 9 possibly a 10, really a perfectly registered, centered, dead solid perfect baseball card, and it came back a 5 - I didn't understand grading at the time, and a few weeks later figured out and finally saw the tiniest little f*ing wrinkle.
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Ralph
Well, not much anyone can do with card grading changes at this point but for sure, in my opinion, Great Lakes Auction House takes advantage of a buyer's lack of knowledge regarding card grading.
Anyway, the bottom line is he was easy to work with. He will accept returns. So you can always look at the card in hand and then decide, but I figured it wasn't worth it. Perhaps if it sold for closer to a "5" price, I would have jumped on it...still a nice looking card.
Thanks for the update.
Steve
Steve
He makes pretty good money from what I could see.
I will say I know of some show dealers who do the same thing, except in their case they're selling to buyers who can closely inspect the card before purchasing.