Despite what all the naysayers are spouting, I think the CDDR-02s and to a lesser extent the CDDR-01s are going to be the huge flipper play this year. I am all in!
I am too. I have not even looked at any of the other errors as of yet and will not until I see that they are worth something. I am retiring at the end of this year so I will have plenty of time to do it then with my dino light.
<< <i>Despite what all the naysayers are spouting, I think the CDDR-02s and to a lesser extent the CDDR-01s are going to be the huge flipper play this year. I am all in! >>
What do you think about the WDDR-006 (the big MO-FO finger)? That sucker is quite impressive and harder to find....
What do you think about the WDDR-006 (the big MO-FO finger)? That sucker is quite impressive and harder to find.... >>
The "Skeleton Finger", as Billy Crawford calls it, is much less prevelant. I would jump on the Ebayers selling them for $10-$14. Their desire to turn a quick buck will be your windfall when all is said and done.
The 3rd design is less than 30 days out, and FY (LP2) production has ended.
With the others flooding the market I believe the DDR-013 will be the big winner!! The Die crack is readily seen and is still pulling $20+ on eBay. Mine are at PCGS currently.
<< <i>Yes, I've been watching that too. What's so great about a die crack? >>
Some people like them...... >>
Yea, I know one member on the forum that like his.. His dead/die crack itchs all the time. I do wish someone would buy him anal cream for that problem he has, maybe he wouldn't have so much hate in his context...
My best ones have been the 4/27s and the 4/30s. It really is a crap shoot, and these CDDR-001s and CDDR-002s are a hell of a lot rarer than people realize!
Got my PCGS grades on the WDDR-013 Stage B's.......The massive Die cracks or the lightning strikes in layman's terms!! They were the best of the best that I found:
Order #20320021 / Submission #4022906 Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade 1 1 15890076 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 2 15890077 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US Genuine (98 - Damage or Tooling) OUCH!! 1 3 15890078 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 4 15890079 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 5 15890080 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 6 15890081 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS66RD 1 7 15890082 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD Total Items: 7 Date Received: 7/10/2009 Date Shipped: N/A Order Status: OK
<< <i>Got my PCGS grades on the WDDR-013 Stage B's.......The massive Die cracks or the lightning strikes in layman's terms!! They were the best of the best that I found:
Order #20320021 / Submission #4022906 Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade 1 1 15890076 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 2 15890077 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US Genuine (98 - Damage or Tooling) OUCH!! 1 3 15890078 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 4 15890079 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 5 15890080 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD 1 6 15890081 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS66RD 1 7 15890082 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD Total Items: 7 Date Received: 7/10/2009 Date Shipped: N/A Order Status: OK >>
I have only found 1 of the WDDR-13s and it was in a 05/01 box.
<< <i>I have only found 1 of the WDDR-13s and it was in a 05/01 box. >>
Wow, I found mine in 4/16, 3 weeks earlier. 5/01 must have been at the bottom of the hopper??? >>
I did see a group of 12 & 13's come out of a 5/01 box also. Checked a couple of boxes on either side in my records that I opened and nada. They seem to have come from 4-15/16/17 in small amounts also. I bought a group of 5 boxes from 5/01 and only 1 had 13's in it. Of course Ive only opened & examined around 20 boxes total so I might not have as complete a picture as others. I've picked more up on show floors raw and also in unattributed slabs than anything else.
I know what you mean. I have had zero in all of the dates so I guess it is just luck which one's have the errors. I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's. Is that what everybody was finding?
<< <i>I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's >>
I have had the opposite....many more WDDR-002's than 001's
<< <i>I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's >>
I have had the opposite....many more WDDR-002's than 001's >>
Crazy how it has no pattern to it. My 4/17's also had more 001's than 002's but I was still getting atleast 4-5 002's from each box. My best were my first 5 of 4/29's with about 12-15 001's and about the same in 002's. The 4/17 had a lot moe of the 003's. These are the Crawford numbers I speak of. CDDR-001/CDDR-002/CDDR-003's.
I wish they could have gotten together on the numbers as it is very confusing. Mine are all graded as WDDR's and most people are talking about the CDDR numbers. WDDR 001 is the extra finger and WDDR 002 is the fat thumb.
Don't see that as a die marker....I have almost 2 full rolls of the whiskers....guess I'll have to check 'em
2009 1c FY WDDR-009
Description: A small partial extra finger can be seen just under the bottom of the book.
Die Markers: Die gouges can be found above the 2nd zero and the 9 in the date. A die gouge can be found between the 9 and the rim. A die crack arcs northward from the upper left B of LIBERTY while another runs south from the lower left B. A die gouge can be found below the R of PLURIBUS. Small die gouges can be found between the upper U and S of PLURIBUS as well as to the left and right of the upper M in UNUM. Die chips can be found at the top and right edges of the book.
Personally, there are only 3 or 4 which I think the average lincolner will want graded. But the obsessive lincolner may want them all. And according to my talk w/Paul at ANACS, they'll grade any variety you specify....
<< <i>Now I'm after the cddr-006 "skeleton finger"....purchased three boxes dated 4/23 today....hoping that's the magic date (as some have posted here) >>
Where did you buy 4/23? I haven't seen any on Ebay. I found one CDDR-006 in a 4/24 box. >>
OK......does this qualify for the "You Suck" award????????
I have 65 unopened boxes and 16 just happened to be dated 4/23. So, with your above post in mind, I just opened a box, and sure enough, here's a picture of a skeleton cent on the end of a roll no less. How much luck is that?
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<< <i>It's only $345 a month if you want to join
The end all be all place to find wholesale numbers on everything.
True wholesale numbers as in ship it to me and get a check now numbers.........
and other than that yes they offer the weeding out of the little guy. Another benefit.
So yeah pretty serious people on the tape there.
I am too. I have not even looked at any of the other errors as of yet and will not until I see that they are worth something. I am retiring at the end of this year so I will have plenty of time to do it then with my dino light.
<< <i>Despite what all the naysayers are spouting, I think the CDDR-02s and to a lesser extent the CDDR-01s are going to be the huge flipper play this year. I am all in! >>
What do you think about the WDDR-006 (the big MO-FO finger)? That sucker is quite impressive and harder to find....
<< <i>I am retiring at the end of this year so I will have plenty of time to do it then with my dino light. >>
Did that last year at age 58....great move
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What do you think about the WDDR-006 (the big MO-FO finger)? That sucker is quite impressive and harder to find.... >>
The "Skeleton Finger", as Billy Crawford calls it, is much less prevelant. I would jump on the Ebayers selling them for $10-$14. Their desire to turn a quick buck will be your windfall when all is said and done.
The 3rd design is less than 30 days out, and FY (LP2) production has ended.
The picture says it all:
4 rolls gave up 45 double thumbs and about the same of another error whose number I don't recall.
Also 4 of the extra finger.....the CDRR 002?
The 5th roll had a double thumb on the end, so that hasn't been opened.......yet.
That was fun.
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What do you think about the WDDR-006 (the big MO-FO finger)? That sucker is quite impressive and harder to find.... >>
I've counted no more than 10 Ebay sellers of this DDR, compared to every Tom Dick & Harry selling all the other DDR's.
This is and it's counterpart WDDO-007, which there are about 2 sellers, are by far the scarsest of the DDR's.
But with the flood of 001s & 002s etc. etc.. everyone expects DDRs for 99c.
Being only two combo DDO&DDRs, you'd be wise to snatch 'em up.
My opinion
and the pics just don't have the contrast or sharpness to really show this error up close. How do I contact Wexler to set up sending
it in for attribution? Any help is appreciated....
I researched the Wexler site and looked at all 43 varieties listed but none had the same look as this one.....
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What's so great about a die crack?
listed. My big score was when I opened the box dated 4/29....I really hit the motherlode..12 wddr-001's, 15 wddr-002's, 5 wddr003's
and 9 wddr-004's .... 41 errors out of 50 coins....I couldn't believe my eyes.....but I am a luckyman (sometimes) .....it definately was the most
fun (excitement) finding error after error like that.
I do have one other question....since Anacs is currently the only grading company slabbing, grading, attributing these, how are their
grading standards? If PCGS decides eventually to grade and attribute them, will Anacs graded coins cross over in the same grade?
How does the spotting that is prevelant on these effect the grade?
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<< <i>All good questions. I'd like to know too, so I know what to submit and what to sell raw. >>
ttt
<< <i>Whats the deal of the Proof error? I have 100 sets that I have not checked. >>
Maybe a mintage of 3k pieces on the proof. Or thereabouts.
Tough piece that I havent seen anywhere yet
<< <i>All good questions. I'd like to know too, so I know what to submit and what to sell raw. >>
Time will tell is all. I would think the more prominent would be worth subbing but, if these get in the redbook or cherry pickers.......
<< <i>How does the spotting that is prevelant on these effect the grade? >>
I will be able to answer that next week when I get mine back
<< <i>Yes, I've been watching that too. What's so great about a die crack? >>
Some people like them......
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<< <i>Yes, I've been watching that too. What's so great about a die crack? >>
Some people like them...... >>
Yea, I know one member on the forum that like his.. His dead/die crack itchs all the time. I do wish someone would buy him anal cream for that problem he has, maybe he wouldn't have so much hate in his context...
Risky? Since I've seen quite a few posting on here with 4/29 boxes having NO DDRs.
The best dates that I have seen were the 4/17's with the 4/30's right behind them.
Order #20320021 / Submission #4022906
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 15890076 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 2 15890077 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US Genuine (98 - Damage or Tooling) OUCH!!
1 3 15890078 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 4 15890079 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 5 15890080 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 6 15890081 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS66RD
1 7 15890082 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
Total Items: 7
Date Received: 7/10/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
<< <i>Got my PCGS grades on the WDDR-013 Stage B's.......The massive Die cracks or the lightning strikes in layman's terms!! They were the best of the best that I found:
Order #20320021 / Submission #4022906
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 15890076 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 2 15890077 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US Genuine (98 - Damage or Tooling) OUCH!!
1 3 15890078 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 4 15890079 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 5 15890080 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
1 6 15890081 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS66RD
1 7 15890082 407831 2009 1C Lincoln-Formative Years US MS65RD
Total Items: 7
Date Received: 7/10/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK >>
I have only found 1 of the WDDR-13s and it was in a 05/01 box.
<< <i>I have only found 1 of the WDDR-13s and it was in a 05/01 box. >>
Wow, I found mine in 4/16, 3 weeks earlier. 5/01 must have been at the bottom of the hopper???
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<< <i>I have only found 1 of the WDDR-13s and it was in a 05/01 box. >>
Wow, I found mine in 4/16, 3 weeks earlier. 5/01 must have been at the bottom of the hopper??? >>
I did see a group of 12 & 13's come out of a 5/01 box also. Checked a couple of boxes on either side in my records that I opened and nada. They seem to have come from 4-15/16/17 in small amounts also. I bought a group of 5 boxes from 5/01 and only 1 had 13's in it. Of course Ive only opened & examined around 20 boxes total so I might not have as complete a picture as others. I've picked more up on show floors raw and also in unattributed slabs than anything else.
<< <i> The best dates that I have seen were the 4/17's with the 4/30's right behind them. >>
That's what I thought 'till I got 3 Zero 4/30's
I know what you mean. I have had zero in all of the dates so I guess it is just luck which one's have the errors.
I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's. Is that what everybody was finding?
<< <i>I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's >>
I have had the opposite....many more WDDR-002's than 001's
I wonder what those numbers mean.
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<< <i>I still don't think there are thar many WDDR 001's to be had out there. When I was getting them I would get about 12 001's compared to 3 002's >>
I have had the opposite....many more WDDR-002's than 001's >>
Crazy how it has no pattern to it. My 4/17's also had more 001's than 002's but I was still getting atleast 4-5 002's from each box. My best were my first 5 of 4/29's with about 12-15 001's and about the same in 002's. The 4/17 had a lot moe of the 003's. These are the Crawford numbers I speak of. CDDR-001/CDDR-002/CDDR-003's.
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a more complete listing of the errors? I have the Wexler list, but it seems incomplete.
I don't see some of the varieties I've found in my searches. The ddo "whisker" underneath Lincoln's beard isn't shown on the Wexler site,
but I've seen pics of it posted here. I found three of those tonight with one of them having the added feature of a long spike sticking out
of the back of Lincoln's head with a small cud on his forehead and two small cuds underneath the date. (tried to scan, but just can't get
the desired pic. Will try again tomorrow....thanks for your help.
edited to add....opened a 4/28 box today found 7-wddr-002's, 1-004, 4 die cracks at 4 o'clock from the edge of the log to the rim, 4 die
cracks at 6 o'clock by both boots running through the "p" and the "r" in Pluribus, and 3 of the ddo "whisker" type mentioned above.
total of 18 errors...fun stuff! Now I'm after the cddr-006 "skeleton finger"....purchased three boxes dated 4/23 today....hoping that's
the magic date (as some have posted here) I haven't found any in my 4/28, 4/29, or 4/30 boxes. Those seem to be going for the most
premium price on the bay right now as individual errors go. Well, thanks again for your help in getting me more complete listings and pics
of the varieties....
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<< <i> The ddo "whisker" underneath Lincoln's beard isn't shown on the Wexler site, >>
It's pictured in the 7/20 Coin World (page 27) and described a die clash
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<< <i> The ddo "whisker" underneath Lincoln's beard isn't shown on the Wexler site, >>
It's pictured in the 7/20 Coin World (page 27) and described a die clash >>
Check those as most are wexler ddr09. The small finger under the book that looks like a lump.
FYI.
pics for both the Wexler and Crawford varieties....if anyone can refer me to a website I'd appreciate it...
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Wexler DDR"S
Edited to add: Having link issues so here it is (might have to just go to doubleddie.com and click on 2009 Lincoln
http://doubleddie.com/60701.html
<< <i>Check those as most are wexler ddr09. >>
Don't see that as a die marker....I have almost 2 full rolls of the whiskers....guess I'll have to check 'em
2009 1c FY WDDR-009
Description: A small partial extra finger can be seen just under the bottom of the book.
Die Markers: Die gouges can be found above the 2nd zero and the 9 in the date. A die gouge can be found between the 9 and the rim. A die crack arcs northward from the upper left B of LIBERTY while another runs south from the lower left B. A die gouge can be found below the R of PLURIBUS. Small die gouges can be found between the upper U and S of PLURIBUS as well as to the left and right of the upper M in UNUM. Die chips can be found at the top and right edges of the book.
Here's Wexlers including die cracks and DDO's
Personally, there are only 3 or 4 which I think the average lincolner will want graded. But the obsessive lincolner may want them all. And according to my talk w/Paul at ANACS, they'll grade any variety you specify....
<< <i>Now I'm after the cddr-006 "skeleton finger"....purchased three boxes dated 4/23 today....hoping that's
the magic date (as some have posted here) >>
Where did you buy 4/23? I haven't seen any on Ebay. I found one CDDR-006 in a 4/24 box.
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<< <i>Now I'm after the cddr-006 "skeleton finger"....purchased three boxes dated 4/23 today....hoping that's the magic date (as some have posted here) >>
Where did you buy 4/23? I haven't seen any on Ebay. I found one CDDR-006 in a 4/24 box. >>
OK......does this qualify for the "You Suck" award????????
I have 65 unopened boxes and 16 just happened to be dated 4/23. So, with your above post in mind, I just opened a box, and sure enough, here's a picture
of a skeleton cent on the end of a roll no less. How much luck is that?
Now the question of value. I've counted 12 Ebay sellers of this error. Prices started @ $50, now they start @ $10.
Wait and see? I think eventually this will be one of the ones recognized by PCGS or NGC.
...........................I think the big 3 will be 001,002,006 and MAYBE the 13b for "wow" factor
9774 07:58 10 WDDR 001's 13WDDR 002 4/30
9774 11:31 4 WDDR 001's 2 WDDR 002 4/21
9774 12:03 6 WDDR 001's 8 WDDR 002 4/30
9774 11:58 0 WDDR 001's 10WDDR 002 4/21
9774 10;32 0 WDDR 001's 2WDDR 002 4/28
Overall not too bad!