I was waiting for an opening like this. I bought six bank rolls on ebay. All six had DDR 011. I noticed on one of the rolls a spot that I have not seen before. Opened the roll and found 19 DDR-011. Next five rolls found many more. After opening 27 boxes this is my first non mint wrapped DDRS.
<< <i>I was waiting for an opening like this. I bought six bank rolls on ebay. All six had DDR 011. I noticed on one of the rolls a spot that I have not seen before. Opened the roll and found 19 DDR-011. Next five rolls found many more. After opening 27 boxes this is my first non mint wrapped DDRS. >>
Thanks Kingkoin for that report -- a first for this thread. I agree it only seemed logical that errors (albiet a minor variety) would show up in regular bank rolls.
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The only question is: how many were sent to banks and how many were mint wrapped. The one's sent to banks have yet to arrive in big numbers....could be an equal or greater quantity in those, too. Maybe next year they may arrive. The mint is making 70% less this year, the lowest in the past 50 years, so it may be awhile before they arrivve.
Point being, if you want to save your bacon, might be good to dispose of the lesser ones. That's my fingers worth......
I just searched the one box dated 04/15/2009 that I kept (I sold the rest on eBay). I found 3 WDDR-005 together with plenty of coins that appear to have die polish around the center of the reverse. An example is below. Does this die polish provide evidence that some (doubled) dies were repaired?
This particular coin also shows a curious indentation close to Abe's thumb that I badly want to say looks like doubling of the 'hollow' -- the gap between the book spine and back. This is the only one I've found like this, so I presume it's just a dent in the planchet.
I opened a box of 4/21 11:15 9774 and found 5- 001's and 2- 002's and a box of 4/30 07:11 9774 and found another roll with an 002 on one end,so I did not open the roll at this time. That gives me 3 with error's showing. The other 2 have errors at both ends.
Hey Whatafind, check the die variety supplement#4. The DDR-011 exhibits an extra partial middle finger to the south of the book. The large die chip you wonder about is just a marker. See the bump about where the ring finger ends?
Interesting how the coinworld article this week did the exact opposite of what I believe someones intentions were. I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!!
<< <i>Interesting how the coinworld article this week did the exact opposite of what I believe someones intentions were. I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!! >>
What exactly did the article say? What is "roflcoptering"?
<< <i>Interesting how the coinworld article this week did the exact opposite of what I believe someones intentions were. I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!! >>
What exactly did the article say? What is "roflcoptering"? >>
The basic premise of the article is that these coins according to ngc and pcgs are not significant enough to warrant grading and that ebay prices for singles have dropped. Ken potter at the end gives a small positive blurb about how its a good time to buy now, but after all the neg press its kind of like spitting in the ocean. Whats surprising is that the prices since this article came out (online so far hardcopy in mail coming) have gone up substantially on Ebay and other aftermarkets. The cce and coinnet buys appear around the article publish date. Reminds me of the "game" with the Adams double and plain edge dollars. This ones a little different since theyre not coming in significant numbers from bank boxes so the strategy is a little different this time. Rofl coptering is an extreme expression of rofl. Get it from my kids.
No DDRs, and the every coin in the roll is horribly covered with black spots >>
That's what I have been saying all along. These coins are rarer than people are making them out to be and will soon be moving up in price when people realize they are not finding any more of them in these new "DUD" boxes.
No DDRs, and the every coin in the roll is horribly covered with black spots >>
That's what I have been saying all along. These coins are rarer than people are making them out to be and will soon be moving up in price when people realize they are not finding any more of them in these new "DUD" boxes. >>
I agree 100%. People are finding some in bank rolls but none of the good ones that are found primarilly in the mint boxes.
Exactly what are they finding in bank rolls. I have heard no word that has been proven to have come from bank rolls other than people saying they have found something to move their own agenda.
<< <i>Exactly what are they finding in bank rolls. I have heard no word that has been proven to have come from bank rolls other than people saying they have found something to move their own agenda. >>
What agenda might that be? The sellers I've talked with claiming to have found errors in bank rolls are selling errors. Not one of them, that I've asked, has be peddling rolls with supposed errors.
<< <i>I don't find those interesting at all. Much too hard to see. >>
I agree. I think the CDDR-02s are going to end up being the ones that are mass marketed and thus widely recognized. I am happy with the 18 that I have.
<< <i>I found a full bank box with most of them having this one on the end of most of the rolls, No date was stamped on the box.
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These are being found in both the mint sets and the bank rolls. I have found them in mint sets so far and now you say you have them in bank rolls. Let the search keep on rollin.
<< <i>so anyone opened up any 04-22-09 mint rolls? I got 5 boxes on them >>
I have opened 2 boxes dated 4/22 and found a lot of the CDDO-001's , some CDDR-001's and only about 2 of the CDDR-002's. Oh yeah it seems that the Die Clash"CATFISH ABE" is being found in just about every box I open too. I've been finding multiples of that one too,along with the CDDO-001's.
Edited to add----I believe I saw someone post on here that the WDDR-009/006/DDO-002 is being found in the 4/30 boxes, but I did not get any in my boxes dated 4/30. I did receive one with the WDDR-006 also from a member here in an ebay auction for only $22.
Is anyone keeping these 'little nub' extra finger coins or not. They are small, but large enough to see that it was a finger that just quit growing. Keep or toss?
<< <i>Is anyone keeping these 'little nub' extra finger coins or not. They are small, but large enough to see that it was a finger that just quit growing. Keep or toss?
>>
I did keep one for myself,and a few to hand out to family and friends.
<< <i>I haven't seen that one before, has it been attributed?
To tell you the truth I may be mistaken on this one. When I first saw your pictures it kinda looked like the CDDR-013/WDDR-017, but after rechecking it with Crawfords pictures of his CDDR-013 I think it may be different. Being that the CDDR-013 has a small nob like this but it is actually angled toward the thumb as yours seems to be going more straight out through the middle. I have yet to see this one in any of the attributers collections. Nice find.
<< <i>I have opened 2 boxes dated 4/22 and found a lot of the CDDO-001's. >>
Aren't the DDOs only known mated with DDRs? >>
No, actually the WDDO-001 is not known to be mated with any DDR... however, the WDDO-002 is known to be mated with TWO different DDR's (Reverse Stage A: WDDR-007 & Reverse Stage B: WDDR-006)
Comments
<< <i>Both these sellers told me that these errors came from other than Mint Sets
WDDR-014
WDDR-016 >>
Are these seller's reliable?
Anyone can say anything!
Anyone can say anything!
And the purpose of saying the came from bank rolls, if they didn't? Protect their interest, maybe.
One has feedback of 810, the other 289 or something close to that.
With 31 DDR's so far, I don't find it implausible that there may be bank roll errors.
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<< <i>I was waiting for an opening like this. I bought six bank rolls on ebay. All six had DDR 011. I noticed on one of the rolls a spot that I have not seen before. Opened the roll and found 19 DDR-011. Next five rolls found many more. After opening 27 boxes this is my first non mint wrapped DDRS. >>
Thanks Kingkoin for that report -- a first for this thread. I agree it only seemed logical that errors (albiet a minor variety) would show up in regular bank rolls.
<< <i>Is it true there are more varieties of these than the extra tree statehood quarters ? >>
No, not even close..... not yet that is ~
Point being, if you want to save your bacon, might be good to dispose of the lesser ones. That's my fingers worth......
This particular coin also shows a curious indentation close to Abe's thumb that I badly want to say looks like doubling of the 'hollow' -- the gap between the book spine and back. This is the only one I've found like this, so I presume it's just a dent in the planchet.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>I call this BB-001 (Book Bubbles)
Also looks like a chunk taken out of the books cover and also a "scar" on the left wrist.
R95
<< <i>Also looks like a chunk taken out of the books cover and also a "scar" on the left wrist. >>
The chunk is impressive.....no extension into area surrounding book...one of my weird findings
I opened a box of 4/21 11:15 9774 and found 5- 001's and 2- 002's and a box of 4/30 07:11 9774 and found another roll with an 002 on one end,so I did not open the roll at this time. That gives me 3 with error's showing. The other 2 have errors at both ends.
A die chip is not doubling! So what are talking about.
They should not even be looked at as one.
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<< <i>Box dates are on the rise. >>
I knew that was going to happen,
and I only have 18 boxes left.
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<< <i>Box dates are on the rise. >>
I knew that was going to happen,
and I only have 18 boxes left. >>
Well, if you've got the HOT dates, you're in good shape
I have more boxes than I care to think about.
I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!!
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Box dates are on the rise. >>
I knew that was going to happen,
and I only have 18 boxes left. >>
Well, if you've got the HOT dates, you're in good shape
I have more boxes than I care to think about. >>
I still have 5 boxes of 9774 07:15 4/30, as well as some of 4/21, 4/23, 4/28, an 4/29's.
<< <i>Interesting how the coinworld article this week did the exact opposite of what I believe someones intentions were.
I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!! >>
What exactly did the article say? What is "roflcoptering"?
<< <i>
<< <i>Interesting how the coinworld article this week did the exact opposite of what I believe someones intentions were.
I'm still roflcoptering with tears in my eyes. Can't help it. My theory is someone with a lot of horsepower wants to promote/buy these up makes a few calls and gets a fairly negative article written. Next thing you know theyre taking off. Pretty sick irony!! >>
What exactly did the article say? What is "roflcoptering"? >>
The basic premise of the article is that these coins according to ngc and pcgs are not significant enough to warrant grading and that ebay prices for singles have dropped. Ken potter at the end gives a small positive blurb about how its a good time to buy now, but after all the neg press its kind of like spitting in the ocean.
Whats surprising is that the prices since this article came out (online so far hardcopy in mail coming) have gone up substantially on Ebay and other aftermarkets. The cce and coinnet buys appear around the article publish date. Reminds me of the "game" with the Adams double and plain edge dollars. This ones a little different since theyre not coming in significant numbers from bank boxes so the strategy is a little different this time.
Rofl coptering is an extreme expression of rofl. Get it from my kids.
No DDRs, and the every coin in the roll is horribly covered with black spots
Mutated Lincoln fingers on a 100th Anniversary Coin are insignificant?
Somebody there has their head up their Rumpelstiltskin
<< <i>Opened a box today, 9778 10:54 06/06/09
No DDRs, and the every coin in the roll is horribly covered with black spots >>
That's what I have been saying all along. These coins are rarer than people are making them out to be and will soon be moving up in price when people realize they are not finding any more of them in these new "DUD" boxes.
<< <i>
<< <i>Opened a box today, 9778 10:54 06/06/09
No DDRs, and the every coin in the roll is horribly covered with black spots >>
That's what I have been saying all along. These coins are rarer than people are making them out to be and will soon be moving up in price when people realize they are not finding any more of them in these new "DUD" boxes. >>
I agree 100%. People are finding some in bank rolls but none of the good ones that are found primarilly in the mint boxes.
I was a Monkey
Exactly what are they finding in bank rolls. I have heard no word that has been proven to have come from bank rolls other than people saying they have found something to move their own agenda.
<< <i>Exactly what are they finding in bank rolls. I have heard no word that has been proven to have come from bank rolls other than people saying they have found something to move their own agenda. >>
What agenda might that be? The sellers I've talked with claiming to have found errors in bank rolls are selling errors. Not one of them, that I've asked, has be peddling rolls with supposed errors.
And what are these selling for?
thanks...
Go figure
Hoard the keys.
I don't find those interesting at all. Much too hard to see.
<< <i>I don't find those interesting at all. Much too hard to see. >>
I agree. I think the CDDR-02s are going to end up being the ones that are mass marketed and thus widely recognized. I am happy with the 18 that I have.
<< <i>I found a full bank box with most of them having this one on the end of most of the rolls, No date was stamped on the box.
These are being found in both the mint sets and the bank rolls. I have found them in mint sets so far and now you say you have them in bank rolls. Let the search keep on rollin.
I was a Monkey
Box date, number, and time?
Anybody that has thaty info will keep it to themselves.
I don,t have it.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>so anyone opened up any 04-22-09 mint rolls >>
No 22's but I have opened 04/21's and found a few die cracks but no DDR's
04/23's had 004's (C)
have not opened any 04/16's
<< <i>so anyone opened up any 04-22-09 mint rolls? I got 5 boxes on them >>
I have opened 2 boxes dated 4/22 and found a lot of the CDDO-001's , some CDDR-001's and only about 2 of the CDDR-002's. Oh yeah it seems that the Die Clash"CATFISH ABE" is being found in just about every box I open too. I've been finding multiples of that one too,along with the CDDO-001's.
Edited to add----I believe I saw someone post on here that the WDDR-009/006/DDO-002 is being found in the 4/30 boxes, but I did not get any in my boxes dated 4/30. I did receive one with the WDDR-006 also from a member here in an ebay auction for only $22.
I was a Monkey
<< <i>Is anyone keeping these 'little nub' extra finger coins or not. They are small, but large enough to see that it was a finger that just quit growing. Keep or toss?
I did keep one for myself,and a few to hand out to family and friends.
I was a Monkey
What did you take your pictures with? I can't get my camera that close up.
<< <i>I haven't seen that one before, has it been attributed?
To tell you the truth I may be mistaken on this one. When I first saw your pictures it kinda looked like the CDDR-013/WDDR-017, but after rechecking it with Crawfords pictures of his CDDR-013 I think it may be different. Being that the CDDR-013 has a small nob like this but it is actually angled toward the thumb as yours seems to be going more straight out through the middle. I have yet to see this one in any of the attributers collections. Nice find.
I was a Monkey
<< <i>
<< <i>so anyone opened up any 04-22-09 mint rolls? I got 5 boxes on them >>
I have opened 2 boxes dated 4/22 and found a lot of the CDDO-001's. >>
Aren't the DDOs only known mated with DDRs?
<< <i>
<< <i>I have opened 2 boxes dated 4/22 and found a lot of the CDDO-001's. >>
Aren't the DDOs only known mated with DDRs? >>
No, actually the WDDO-001 is not known to be mated with any DDR... however, the WDDO-002 is known to be mated with TWO different DDR's (Reverse Stage A: WDDR-007 & Reverse Stage B: WDDR-006)