Someone got a steal... Sandberg Aqueous test

tunahead08

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Thought for sure it would go for way more than that!

prscott933

that seller had a Ripken that they ended early too. i never got a chance to take a close look to see if either were real.

tunahead08

From what I can tell they look legit, at least compare to my Hrbek that I got from Chandy.

jacksoncoupage

<< <i>From what I can tell they look legit, at least compare to my Hrbek that I got from Chandy. >>



I am 99% certain that they were legit - it really isn't that difficult to tell. I thought that the Sandberg would get at least $200.

csmtampa

Personally I think those cards are over rated. Yea they might be "rare" but the only difference from them and other 90 Donruss is the lack of the copyright and the Aqueous printing on the back. I'd be happier to add a blue or white version instead. But I can understand it from a player collectors view...

IchiroDeported

gotta agree with tampa on this one. why the excitement over the stamp on the back, its essentially a 1990 donruss card lol.

jacksoncoupage

<< <i>Personally I think those cards are over rated. Yea they might be "rare" but the only difference from them and other 90 Donruss is the lack of the copyright and the Aqueous printing on the back. I'd be happier to add a blue or white version instead. But I can understand it from a player collectors view... >>



They aren't lacking a copyright. All 1990 Donruss base cards come with either an INC. or INC version. The Aqueous Test cards only come with the INC version, but the copyright is there for sure.

Also, they have a different type of gloss on the front. It's subtle but after examining many examples, I can say for sure that it stands out from the base issue.

One of the reasons that these are so popular is because there isn't much about 80's and early 90's Donruss that is very desirable or rare.

jacksoncoupage

<< <i>gotta agree with tampa on this one. why the excitement over the stamp on the back, its essentially a 1990 donruss card lol. >>



That makes about as much sense as "why all the excitement over a refractor, it's essentially a 1993 Finest that reflects light lol."

csmtampa

i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting

bighurt2000

Personally I think those cards are cool aqueous cool. I don't collect them but I can't see how they are over
rated, rare is rare and those cards are rare. I agree 1990 Donruss is junk but these cards by the numbers
that made it into the hobby are far from it.

If anybody has any of these over rated cards and doesn't want them I will take them off your hands.

James

WinPitcher

If it is so rare and the guy was trying to reach player collectors why did he not have it graded?

Steve

bighurt2000

UMMMM FAKE?

bighurt2000

Does PSA grade these?

James

VitoCo1972

<< <i>If it is so rare and the guy was trying to reach player collectors why did he not have it graded?

Steve >>



I'm pretty certain from another thread about this that PSA will not grade them, Steve. Anyone that can confirm? I'm too tired to look for that thread.

lsutigers1973

PSA will not grade them. I don't think I have ever seen one graded by BGS either.

I personally think the value of Sandberg cards is going down. The two valuable cards that I still need for my 83 Donruss PSA 10 set are Sandberg and Gwynn. The Sandberg usually sells for $100-120. I had one on my watch list yesterday but forgot to bid. It sold for $60.

BunchOBull

The Ripken and Sandberg were 100% real. Right front and back color/gloss, proper font on the word "AQUEOUS."

gecko109

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<< <i>gotta agree with tampa on this one. why the excitement over the stamp on the back, its essentially a 1990 donruss card lol. >>



That makes about as much sense as "why all the excitement over a refractor, it's essentially a 1993 Finest that reflects light lol." >>




Or ANY other parallel card for that matter! Very good point. But....the real question is this....can it be absolutely confirmed that the true number in existance is around 5 cards per player? How do we know there isnt boxes full of them in some warehouse?

WinPitcher

Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea. I'm not into 1990 donruss.


Steve

Aric

My problem with these cards is no one knows the original source. For all we know there's a garage full of them somewhere.

Now that I think about it, that can probably be said for most of these cardboard pieces we chase.

bobsbbcards

SGC grades them.

tunahead08

<< <i>i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting >>



Great, so you don't like them, go read a different thread then. I've never understood why some people have a problem with what other people collect...

tunahead08

<< <i>But....the real question is this....can it be absolutely confirmed that the true number in existance is around 5 cards per player? How do we know there isnt boxes full of them in some warehouse? >>



As this is a test issue I'm not sure why there would have ever been more than a few boxes made. These cards were discovered in 1999 and in that time I've seen only 4 Ripken's for sale on eBay (I may have missed a few, but it's been a saved search of mine for years). If someone does have a stash of these, they've been really quiet and patient in sitting on it. Even Chandy has been slowing down on selling the his common lots. So no, it can't be absolutely confirmed that there are only around 5 cards of each player, but as you see very few of the stars for sale, I won't take the chance on passing my guy up when it's for sale. But I say again, if it's a test issue, why would they make a ton of them?

jacksoncoupage

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<< <i>But....the real question is this....can it be absolutely confirmed that the true number in existance is around 5 cards per player? How do we know there isnt boxes full of them in some warehouse? >>



As this is a test issue I'm not sure why there would have ever been more than a few boxes made. These cards were discovered in 1999 and in that time I've seen only 4 Ripken's for sale on eBay (I may have missed a few, but it's been a saved search of mine for years). If someone does have a stash of these, they've been really quiet and patient in sitting on it. Even Chandy has been slowing down on selling the his common lots. So no, it can't be absolutely confirmed that there are only around 5 cards of each player, but as you see very few of the stars for sale, I won't take the chance on passing my guy up when it's for sale. But I say again, if it's a test issue, why would they make a ton of them? >>



I have to agree. If there was a hoard of them somewhere, then the owner is being incredibly patient - especially in this economy. These are usually in the top-5 or so most wanted cards for player collectors of the 1980's guys and some players, including many "commons" would bring big bucks.

I'm not really understanding all the complaining about these cards.

mtcards

Not to hijack the thread, but since we are on 1990 Donruss Variations....is there much of a demand for the 1990 Donruss "Learning Series" for player collectors? I had heard that there was a print run on these in the 2500-5000 set range, but were distirbuted to school kids in the Chicago area. Im pretty sure many of these sets were destroyed accidentally at some point, but have never seen a good price set on any of these

tunahead08

<< <i>Not to hijack the thread, but since we are on 1990 Donruss Variations....is there much of a demand for the 1990 Donruss "Learning Series" for player collectors? I had heard that there was a print run on these in the 2500-5000 set range, but were distirbuted to school kids in the Chicago area. Im pretty sure many of these sets were destroyed accidentally at some point, but have never seen a good price set on any of these >>



Raw on the Ripken doesn't get that much but I think a PSA 10 would, as these cards seem to be pretty condition sensitive.

prscott933

<< <i>Not to hijack the thread, but since we are on 1990 Donruss Variations....is there much of a demand for the 1990 Donruss "Learning Series" for player collectors? I had heard that there was a print run on these in the 2500-5000 set range, but were distirbuted to school kids in the Chicago area. Im pretty sure many of these sets were destroyed accidentally at some point, but have never seen a good price set on any of these >>



My "price list" has the Ozzie Smith learning series at $2.50 and there's one on ebay for $3 plus s/h. I had never heard of it before this post though.

jacksoncoupage

<< <i>Not to hijack the thread, but since we are on 1990 Donruss Variations....is there much of a demand for the 1990 Donruss "Learning Series" for player collectors? I had heard that there was a print run on these in the 2500-5000 set range, but were distirbuted to school kids in the Chicago area. Im pretty sure many of these sets were destroyed accidentally at some point, but have never seen a good price set on any of these >>



They used to be fairly common in set form. I purchased one in 2004 or 2005 for less than $10 back them. I haven't checked on them in a while but I can't say I have seen one up when searching 1990 Donruss.

bigjed

<< <i>Personally I think those cards are over rated. Yea they might be "rare" but the only difference from them and other 90 Donruss is the lack of the copyright and the Aqueous printing on the back. I'd be happier to add a blue or white version instead. But I can understand it from a player collectors view... >>



If you don't mind one more hijacking, what is the story with the blue or white version?

Boopotts

<< <i>i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting >>



These cards aren't glossy. But thanks for playing!

jacksoncoupage

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<< <i>i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting >>



These cards aren't glossy. But thanks for playing! >>



There is definitely a noticeable gloss to the aqueous test cards. I am looking at about 7 of them right now. It's not tiffany glossy, but it's a different-looking type than what is one the base cards.

Boopotts

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<< <i>i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting >>



These cards aren't glossy. But thanks for playing! >>



There is definitely a noticeable gloss to the aqueous test cards. I am looking at about 7 of them right now. It's not tiffany glossy, but it's a different-looking type than what is one the base cards. >>



I don't think that's a gloss-- I think it's something with the paper stock. I have seen some that look this way, but the two dozen or so I've handled just looked like cards that we're completely uncirculated (i.e, they never had their surfaces rubbing against another card).

jacksoncoupage

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<< <i>i can spray some gloss on a 90 Donruss and it will be as exciting >>



These cards aren't glossy. But thanks for playing! >>



There is definitely a noticeable gloss to the aqueous test cards. I am looking at about 7 of them right now. It's not tiffany glossy, but it's a different-looking type than what is one the base cards. >>



I don't think that's a gloss-- I think it's something with the paper stock. I have seen some that look this way, but the two dozen or so I've handled just looked like cards that we're completely uncirculated (i.e, they never had their surfaces rubbing against another card). >>



That would definitely explain it.

tunahead08

<< <i>If you don't mind one more hijacking, what is the story with the blue or white version? >>



The Blue/White tests have a player on each side, with one being blue and one being white. They're a little bit more rare than the Aqueous Test cards.

Beck6

I have been influenced by these boards again. Just picked up this Barry Larkin Aqueous after reading about the Sandberg.

brumbach

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<< <i>Not to hijack the thread, but since we are on 1990 Donruss Variations....is there much of a demand for the 1990 Donruss "Learning Series" for player collectors? I had heard that there was a print run on these in the 2500-5000 set range, but were distirbuted to school kids in the Chicago area. Im pretty sure many of these sets were destroyed accidentally at some point, but have never seen a good price set on any of these >>



My "price list" has the Ozzie Smith learning series at $2.50 and there's one on ebay for $3 plus s/h. I had never heard of it before this post though. >>



If you search eBay Stores you might find an Ozzie Smith for $1.00 plus $2 s/h....

tunahead08

<< <i>I have been influenced by these boards again. Just picked up this Barry Larkin Aqueous after reading about the Sandberg.

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I was considering picking that up, but decided I shouldn't spend more money this week I was also going to bid on the Sandberg, but started watching a movie and forgot to watch the end...