Barry Bonds Card Value

Mintacular

Breaking my own rule, but I don't think I posted one yesterday. This topic may have been covered already so I apologize.

Anyway, despite the Bonds allegations and high probability that he used HGH or steroids, his cards still hold some value, albeit a fraction of what they did a few years ago before reports surfaced about his steroid use.

So here's my question: Since other players have been implicated in using PEDs after the original Bonds "scandal" (McGwire, Ramirez, Pettite, Giambi, Palmeiro, Tejada, Rodriguez, Clemens, etc.)--Is it possible that Bonds' cards could receive a slight upward tick? "Well, Bonds was one of the first to be accused of this but since so many other dominoes have fell since then, why punish him more than the others?"

iamthegreatcornholio

Funny you ask, another thread got me thinking about his 87 Fleer card. I remember when PSA 10's sold for $600+ now they're $40-$50... you don't have much to lose at this price point.

TomGshotput

Value of Barry Bonds cards is based far more on being from the 80s and later than any amount of drug use

perkdog

People hate Bonds more because he broke Aarons HR record, its as simple as that.

You would be suprised -many times some morons have said they even wish Bonds would get a bullet in his head.

BassPro77

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You would be suprised -many times some morons have said they even wish Bonds would get a bullet in his head. >>





this moron still says that. you may need two in that FAT head of his

perkdog

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You would be suprised -many times some morons have said they even wish Bonds would get a bullet in his head. >>





this moron still says that. you may need two in that FAT head of his >>




Ok, so your a bigger moron than most thats all.

bighurt2000

Guess there could be a upside on Bonds cards if people start collecting cards of jerks.
These people will be the same ones investing in O.J cards because he was framed.

James

lsutigers1973

Bonds prices are partially based on the fact that he was a complete jerk his entire career, not just after he got "busted". A lot of fans/collectors were looking for just one more reason to despise him. He gave them that reason with his roids use.

BassPro77

Mintacular

Bonds was a known jerk in 2001 on his way to 70 HRS in (2001?) yet that didn't stop his cards from skyrocketing. It's a shame that his (alleged) steroid use tarnished his career because from 1986-1993 he had pretty much secured his place in Cooperstown before he started 'roids in SF.so long that he continued to hit .300, 30HRS, 20SBs, 100 RBI a year which was likely.

Unlike McGwire, Giambi, Juan Gone, Canseco, Caminiti, and some of those other guys, Bonds could flat our rake without the juice, and if anyone from the "Steroid Era" should go to the Hall, it should be Bonds.

As for him being a "jerk", so friggin' what. Rose and Cobb are jerks amongst many others but were great ball players. I don't think the Hall should be reserved for great players + you got to be a nice guy while you're at it.

While I'M AT IT, who the hell can say that if steroids were available during the good ole' days that some of our beloved stars wouldn't have juiced up to stay competitive?

BassPro77

TomGshotput

Again, personality and drug use have absolutely nothing to do with the prices of his baseball cards. Ty Cobb and Pete Rose actually prove that

The Hall-of-Fame is a completely seperate issue. So far the voters have decided that supporting the war on drugs is more important than celebrating great baseball talent. We can only hope they change their minds in a few years when Bonds in eligible

Yelbom

I guess that is why Clemens 84 Fleer Update card is so cheap these days...

jeffcbay

I personally never liked Bonds because he used to say Ripken was selfish for playing every day. This was long before he started blasting 70 HRs.

On a side note, I don't think any player should be banned from the Hall of Fame for using drugs (performance enhancing or otherwise), OR betting on baseball for that matter. Just my opinion.

McGwire should be in.

Palmeiro should get in.

Bonds should get in.

Rose definitely should be in.

Again, just my opinion.

Nathaniel1960

Someone had an interesting point about Roger Maris. Mayeb we should stop viewing the HOF as the be all and end all of "greatness" in the game of baseball. Everyone concedes that Joe Jackson is one of the greatest of all time, and he's not in the Hall. So what? His records are not diminished, nor are the stories about him.

If you ask me, the HOF detracts from the game and injects at times an ugly subjective measurement of a player's standing amongst peers. It's like bid night at Lamdba Lambda Lambda. I'd prefer the Hall to be a museum to all players. Take down the plaques.

cyots82

His stuff won't be worth anything anytime soon. I think if you are talking long run, yeah, you might make up a little ground. But he does have the overpopulation of his cards, plus his roids usage against him. Still, if you want to have a complete collection, all the roiders will have to be a part of it. If you collect key card sets, you need these guys to complete it, so from that standpoint, there will always be someone looking for these cards. I'd say only go PSA 10 if you are going to do it and right now it's cheap enough to. I used to think about the records and everything and how it will be perceived in the years to come. I think when some years have been put between all of this, people will end up accepting it for what it was. I'm not sure if that means they'll get in the hall, but they might be accepted more. I think if that happens you might see a little uptick in demand for his cards. In the end, I know many of us wont like the record book damage these guys have done, but it's there and its not going away, so we'll just have to deal.

Boopotts

<< <i>Again, personality and drug use have absolutely nothing to do with the prices of his baseball cards. Ty Cobb and Pete Rose actually prove that

The Hall-of-Fame is a completely seperate issue. So far the voters have decided that supporting the war on drugs is more important than celebrating great baseball talent. We can only hope they change their minds in a few years when Bonds in eligible >>




Drug use absolutely affects card prices. That's the one common factor in the movement in the card prices of Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro and so forth-- as soon as they were outed their card priced declined. Personality may also a factor, although not in the way we might initially suspect (i.e., whether someone is a 'nice' guy or a 'bad' guy may be irrelevant to card collectors, but there are other personality characteristics that card collectors do value), but drug use certainly had an impact on card prices.

stevek

<< <i>Again, personality and drug use have absolutely nothing to do with the prices of his baseball cards. Ty Cobb and Pete Rose actually prove that

The Hall-of-Fame is a completely seperate issue. So far the voters have decided that supporting the war on drugs is more important than celebrating great baseball talent. We can only hope they change their minds in a few years when Bonds in eligible >>



<<<<< Ty Cobb and Pete Rose actually prove that >>>>>

You're pasrtially right about that but despite their faults both players had "character" and along with their great baseball careers they were interesting even if sometimes in a "bad" sort of way. But it's not debatable that both players loved the game and loved to win....with the exception of Rose at the end when his gambling addiction took over. All Bonds loves is the adulation of hitting HR's...I honestly don't think he gives a chit whether his team wins or loses, and in my opinion he is a poor ambassador for the game, even without the steroids.

Also Bonds in my opinion is not an interesting character at all and frankly he is a bore.

I'm not saying this has everything to do with it, there are so many factors and intangibles that go into the value of baseball cards, but for sure it has something to do with it, and perhaps a lot to do with it.

TomGshotput

Lots of people find tragedies interesting

There have been bores, bad characters and bad ambassadors throughout history. Some of them even played baseball. Yet demand for cards of Cap Anson and Hal Chase far exceed the supply. Just because the same is not true for Barry Bonds does not tell us which side of the equation is being skewed

A card like this, of such a horrible one-dimensional person sells for several hundred. Anyone can find boxes of cards of much better people than him that can't sell for a penny