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steelieleesteelielee Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭
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  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750
    From the pics it doesn't look too bad
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't go so far as to say "scrubbed", but dipped, yeah.

    It's too clean, but I've seen worse.

    I like it anyway, and the cleaning would not scare me off too badly, if priced accordingly.

    Speaking of cleaned half dollars in PCGS "Genuine" holders, I just got this Barber back in such a holder with my last submission.

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    I didn't notice the cleaning on it until I examined it after the fact. I'd certainly rather own something with a look like this Barber than something with a look like that Seated half has, but nevertheless, that's a sharp Seated half, cleaned or not. Too bad somebody got overzealous with it. I wonder how it will look a hundred years from now. That's an odd little rounded hit on Liberty's arm, too.

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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    looks pretty bad to me.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Looks dipped and lifeless. Just the same, these early S-mint Seated coins aren't often seen with this much detail, so some collectors may be willing to overlook it.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it definitely looks cleaned to me.

    if the price is right though and you like it, why not place a bid?

    but it's definitely not one of those 'borderline' genuine graded coins that you wonder about resubmitting.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like it anyway, and the cleaning would not scare me off too badly, if priced accordingly. >>



    My friend LordMarcovan makes a really key point here.
    If the price is right it is amazing the amount of "good deals" there can be.

    We see a coin on these boards that is worth say $2500 with original skin that is for
    sale for $750 because of a few light hairlines from a cleaning. Is it a bargain?
    To some the high line is to pass on everything not original, but to the majority
    of collectors, the slightly cleaned coin would be fine.

    Then some start with the ..."It will not slab" cr@p
    SOOOOOOO

    Kind of like the argument made that a Proof 69 Modern coin that sells for 1/10 the price of a Proof 70 is "good enough"
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't describe this coin as "harshly cleaned." Dipped and then lightly cleaned would be my guess.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would rather have an orginal xf or AU coin at that price point.

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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    That coin doesn't appeal to me at all....
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    Harshly enough cleaned that I wouldn't even consider buying it.
  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    Collect what you like. If a person likes shiny coins, especially for an album, it is not a bad coin. Many Seated coins have been messed with. Many AU Seated coins in a problem free holders have been dipped as well.

    Go in with your eyes open though. A good many collectors will not buy coins in a genuine holder for their collection. Many dealers will either do not offer on problem coins, or make cash offers much lower than on coins in a problem free holder (much lower in terms of a percentage of their retail asking price). Retail ask on problem coins for sale by dealers is usually right up there, but try to sell problem coins to a dealer and the price scale becomes tilted.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say it has been cleaned to the point where all of the natural surfaces are gone. To that extent it is “pretty bad.” “Polished” is worse and big swish lines from a whizzing brush are worse, but this coin in person probably has a pasty, white surface that is rather unattractive to the collector who has a trained eye.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,582 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every coin is looking for a happy collector.
  • Here's a Bust I bought before I knew about cleaning. The seller said 'at some point it was probably cleaned'. So, how would you say this bust compares to the seated?

    I have not sent it in for grading since it was cleaned at some point.

    Is this a thumbs UP or DOWN coin?

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