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jose canseco due to get his head busted..
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I will be shocked if Jose even gets close enough to land a punch with Choi having such a huge reach advantage!
Kyle Maynard vs Canseco would be a fair fight, and I'd take Maynard in 3.
I hope Dana White/UFC never goes this "circus" route.
Hey Canseco.... here's one way to beat Choi ... Choi vs Fedor!
PoppaJ
RIP GURU
how it goeth sir?
j
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I agree. This dude is as well
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<< <i>Oh no, UFC is going big time pro wrestin style, i cant see Canseco doing much, except bleeding
He isn't fighting in the UFC.
Nick
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<< <i>Choi should have tried to break that armbar by dropping Fedor on his head. if you can't take pain, get out of MMA.
Nick >>
LOL
Im glad, i cant get the link to open, im on slow speed dial up at the moment, just moved, kinda sucks.
What the mma hes fighting in?
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<< <i>Choi should have tried to break that armbar by dropping Fedor on his head. if you can't take pain, get out of MMA.
Nick >>
LOL >>
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"Should have tried to break that armbar" ..... are you kidding me? He was fighting "Fedor"! We're talking about Fedor Emelianenko, "The Last Emperor", the best in the world with a Win-Loss-Draw Record of 30 - 1 - 0 & 1 NC. 7 Wins by KO; 16 Submissions (53.33 %); and 7 Decisions!
The only way Choi could have beaten Fedor that night would be if Fedor had been a no-show
Perry, I totally agree with your LOL comment!
PoppaJ
<< <i><He isn't fighting in the UFC.>
Im glad, i cant get the link to open, im on slow speed dial up at the moment, just moved, kinda sucks.
What the mma hes fighting in? >>
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Canseco will face Choi at Dream 9, a WEC MMA event, in Tokyo, Japan on May 26, 2009.
"Against Choi, Canseco will have his hands full: Choi is far from a great MMA fighter, but he's a skilled professional kickboxer who will have a huge size advantage over Canseco. If Canseco can't beat Danny Bonaduce, let's just hope he doesn't get seriously hurt against Hong Man Choi."
PoppaJ
Can this be watched on cable somewhere?
Wish i could get that link to open.
<< <i>Canseco will face Choi at Dream 9, a WEC MMA event, in Tokyo, Japan on May 26, 2009.
Can this be watched on cable somewhere? >>
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Event: DREAM.9: Featherweight GP Quarterfinal Round
Date: May 26, 2009
Time: TBD
Location: Yokohama Arena, Yokohama, Japan
Broadcast: HDNet Live
Official Website: DREAM Official
Unofficially, there are a few sites that I can't disclose legally to you that will stream this fight for free. My advice is to do a web search for "free stream Dream 9".
PoppaJ
RIP GURU
<< <i>perry.....
how it goeth sir?
j >>
blazed up..
ready for pacquaio/hatton..
Will Fedor be able to keep the armbar if he gets slammed down on the back of his head? I don't know. Does Choi have to at least try? Yes, if he's a serious MMA fighter and not a freak show.
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Yeah so was I. Went by too fast, but it was so cool I don't even want my $55 back.
<< <i>Poppa - look at Choi's position at the time. He's basically standing with Fedor hanging off him.
Will Fedor be able to keep the armbar if he gets slammed down on the back of his head? I don't know. Does Choi have to at least try? Yes, if he's a serious MMA fighter and not a freak show.
Nick >>
Choi gets his arm broken if he doesnt tap.. his arm is no match for a 240lb man, much less fedor.. its just how armbars work.
once its locked in and Fedor arches to push his hips out, that arm will snap like a twig.
Nick
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<< <i>pandrews - it can be done. Think Rampage.
Nick >>
true..
it can be done, but Choi wasnt "basically standing", his feet werent even under him, he was on his knees in Fedors guard..
Rampage slammed out of a triangle one time (it wasnt even locked in), but still a triangle choke is a lot different than an arm, which can break.. the worst he wouldve experienced from a triangle is a loss of blood to the head, and he wouldve woke back up soon afterwards.. however, a broke arm = several months on the sidelines..
Rampage escaped an armbar by Sakuraba one time because he was able to grab his fist before it was locked on, and keep his feet under him to stand up.. but he still ended up losing the fight..
someone can slam out of an armbar maybe once in a few hundred times, but usually it just makes things worse.. plus, there are things you can do to make sure the person cant slam you..
even trying to slam out of a triangle usually just makes it tighter..
<< <i>ready for pacquaio/hatton..
Yeah so was I. Went by too fast, but it was so cool I don't even want my $55 back. >>
kinda brutal.
awesome.
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even trying to slam out of a triangle usually just makes it tighter.. >>
Yeah, Rampage's was only successful because his follow-through was a big-time headbutt to the jaw of Arona, which is what actually KO'ed him.
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j
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<< <i>Poppa - look at Choi's position at the time. He's basically standing with Fedor hanging off him.
Will Fedor be able to keep the armbar if he gets slammed down on the back of his head? I don't know. Does Choi have to at least try? Yes, if he's a serious MMA fighter and not a freak show.
Nick >>
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Hi Nick,
I have to agree with Perry about Choi getting his arm broken by Fedor if he doesn't tap.
Fedor's a master in the octagon. Time after time, we've all witnessed how easily Fedor escapes submissions.... only to turn around and win by a sub of his own.
Remember, Fedor's only loss was due to a stoppage because of a cut. Look at his accomplishments below to see how many fights he ended in the 1st round!
The only thing that's going to stop Fedor is AGE ... eventually! For now, he's the alpha-male of his sport.
Fedor's Professional record breakdown
32 matches 30 wins 1 loss
By knockout 7
By submission 16
By decision 7
No contests 1
Result Record Opponent Method Date Round Time
Win 30–1 Andrei Arlovski KO (Punch) January 24, 2009 Round 1 3:14
Win 29–1 Tim Sylvia Submission (rear naked choke) July 19, 2008 Round 1 0:36
Win 28–1 Hong-Man Choi Submission (armbar) December 31, 2007 Round 1 1:54
Win 27–1 Matt Lindland Submission (armbar) April 14, 2007 Round 1 2:58
Win 26–1 Mark Hunt Submission (kimura) December 31, 2006 Round 1 8:16
Win 25–1 Mark Coleman Submission (armbar) October 21, 2006 Round 2 1:15
Win 24–1 Melvin Manhoef Zuluzinho Submission (strikes) December 31, 2005 Round 1 0:26
Win 23–1 Mirko Filipoviæ Decision (unanimous) August 28, 2005 Round 3 5:00
Win 22–1 Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (doctor stoppage) April 3, 2005 Round 1 10:00
Win 21–1 Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (unanimous) December 31, 2004 Round 3 5:00
No Contest 20–1 Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira No contest (accidental headbutt) August 15, 2004 Round 1 3:52
Win 20–1 Naoya Ogawa Submission (armbar) August 15, 2004 Round 1 0:54
Win 19–1 Kevin Randleman Submission (kimura) June 20, 2004 Round 1 1:33
Win 18–1 Mark Coleman Submission (armbar) April 25, 2004 Round 1 2:11
Win 17–1 Yuji Nagata TKO (strikes) December 31, 2003 Round 1 1:02
Win 16–1 Gary Goodridge TKO (strikes) August 10, 2003 Round 1 1:09
Win 15–1 Kazuyuki Fujita Submission (rear naked choke) June 8, 2003 Round 1 4:17
Win 14–1 Egidijus Valavicius Submission (kimura) April 5, 2003 Round 2 1:11
Win 13–1 Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (unanimous) March 16, 2003 Round 3 5:00
Win 12–1 Heath Herring TKO (doctor stoppage) November 24, 2002 Round 1 10:00
Win 11–1 Semmy Schilt Decision (unanimous) June 23, 2002 Round 3 5:00
Win 10–1 Chris Haseman TKO (lost points) February 15, 2002 Round 1 2:50
Win 9–1 Lee Hasdell Submission (guillotine choke) December 21, 2001 Round 1 4:10
Win 8–1 Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (unanimous) October 20, 2001 Round 3 5:00
Win 7–1 Renato Sobral Decision (unanimous) August 11, 2001 Round 2 5:00
Win 6–1 Kerry Schall Submission (armbar) April 20, 2001 Round 1 1:47
Win 5–1 Mihail Apostolov Submission (rear naked choke) April 6, 2001 Round 1 1:03
Loss 4–1 Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (cut) December 22, 2000 Round 1 0:17
Win 4–0 Ricardo Arona Decision (unanimous) December 22, 2000 Round 3 5:00
Win 3–0 TakadaHiroya Takada KO (strikes) September 5, 2000 Round 1 0:12
Win 2–0 LagvilavaLevon Lagvilava Submission (rear naked choke) August 16, 2000 Round 1 7:24
Win 1–0 LazarovMartin Lazarov Submission (guillotine choke) May 21, 2000 Round 1 2:24
PoppaJ
Boy, Hee Sop Choi is bulked up
Bosox1976
Canseco's a big dude, but that guy was a Giant!
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<< <i>Actually, I was thinking about what he did to Bustamante.
Nick >>
Ask Big Timmy how that worked out for him.
<< <i>What are the specs on that guy?
Canseco's a big dude, but that guy was a Giant! >>
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They've got Choi listed at 7'2", but at one fight he was announced as being 7'4" which seems a bit more realistic to me.
The fight went 1:15 which is longer than I expected.
I'll give Canseco props for trying, but I hope he realizes that MMA is NOT the WWE!
Oh well, glad I didn't pay to see that one!
PoppaJ
just because your big ,it dont mean you can fight mma like guys can play wwf wrestling
i wish Jose woulda won..
i feel sorry for him kinda, supposedly nobody would train him.. he asked Frank Trigg for last minute training and Trigg said people told him not to help Canseco..
Canseco is 6'4" and looked like a midget in that ring. LOL
Whether you like Canseco or not, you have to give him credit
for getting in the ring and lasting 1.5 minutes with that GIANT!
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<< <i>he asked Frank Trigg for last minute training and Trigg said people told him not to help Canseco >>
His money spends just like everyone else's. Why wouldn't anyone train him?
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<< <i>he asked Frank Trigg for last minute training and Trigg said people told him not to help Canseco >>
His money spends just like everyone else's. Why wouldn't anyone train him? >>
i guess he's persona non grata in the sports world or something..
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<< <i>he asked Frank Trigg for last minute training and Trigg said people told him not to help Canseco >>
His money spends just like everyone else's. Why wouldn't anyone train him? >>
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Hi Matt,
The fight was part of DREAM's Super Hulk Tournament. The Canseco-Choi fight was exactly the kind of matchup that would never be approved in the U.S. by any commission.
Nevada nearly denied a license recently to 45-year-old Mark Coleman to fight at UFC 100. Coleman, who has 24 pro fights under his belt and was an NCAA wrestling champ, tired badly in his last fight at UFC 93.
The fighters' safety is paramount in MMA where knees, kicks, elbows, punches, jiu-jitsu and wrestling are all fair game.
It's all about Canseco's safety! It would make no sense to train a 44 year old guy who has no future in the sport.
I like Canseco, but I'd hate to see him wind up paralyzed or mamed for the rest of his life just because he has a dream.
Jose should stick to Celebrity Boxing ... where incidentally, he couldn't even beat Danny Bonaduce (the partridge family) and Canseco had a 70 pound weight advantage over Bonaduce.
PoppaJ
ol jose never had to do that