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Odd DC D reverse doubling
Cam40
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I bought 5 rolls from the bank today and only opened one and found this;
There are five areas of doubling I can find.
1-3) the Ell in Ellington
4) doubled Eb key on the piano
5) below the keys on the piano is a slanted line
Unlike my last struck-through dropped filling `Y` find
this odd doubling DC quarter cant be the only one to exist.
I just cant wait for more people to report it , for anyone that might
think its an April Fools joke thread or something.
Its not. Scout`s Honor and all that.
There are five areas of doubling I can find.
1-3) the Ell in Ellington
4) doubled Eb key on the piano
5) below the keys on the piano is a slanted line
Unlike my last struck-through dropped filling `Y` find
this odd doubling DC quarter cant be the only one to exist.
I just cant wait for more people to report it , for anyone that might
think its an April Fools joke thread or something.
Its not. Scout`s Honor and all that.
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-Paul
The name is LEE!
I feel a bit lucky in that it was one of the better examples in the roll.
One or two,normal quarters,in the roll I think is are 66s atleast.
note to self; go back for more rolls tomorrow....
<< <i>Overall I would say the coin is in the 65 range actually.
I feel a bit lucky in that it was one of the better examples in the roll.
One or two,normal quarters,in the roll I think is are 66s atleast.
note to self; go back for more rolls tomorrow.... >>
Add a PS on that Note: Pick 19Lyds up about 20 rolls while you're there!
The name is LEE!
-Paul
<< <i>i dont know Lee, i dont take well to `the evil eye`
Thats not an "evil" eye!
Its a "discerning" eye!
My reading eye rarely gets used!
Or is it my brain? I forget!
The name is LEE!
Neither can eye!
BTW, I would have gotten closer but my nose keeps getting in the way!
The name is LEE!
-Paul
-Paul
I have a feeling this will rank up there with the 1995 DDO Lincoln.
Thanks!
-Paul
BTW, most of the State quarter doubled dies are P-mint. This is probably one of the few D-mint.
You should send it to Wexler to have it listed.
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<< <i>Texas Bank in Houston (west) >>
I've only picked up five or so DC quarters so far in Houston, all from the same roll, without any such doubling.
Are these Ps or Ds?
-Paul
Oh and Lee, that's a VERY evil looking doubled eye!
<< <i>That's some strange doubling there! How did only the first three letters get hubbed like that? Possibly there would be remnants of "INGTON" under the piano keys, judging by the angle. The deep incused portion of the keys precludes those letters from showing. >>
I think its Tilted Hub doubling similar to what occured on the Minnesota Extra Tree quarters.
From here:
The area of doubling on all varieties reported thus far represents the virtual dead center of the coin’s design. This is an important key their attribution because specialists believe they are the result of tilted hubs that were seated into proper position during hubbing.
Tilted Hub Doubling restricted to such a small area of design within the center region of the die is possible due to the result of either of two related scenarios.
1) The hub is backed off after the initial kiss of the hub into a tilted die blank and is then reset properly and hubbed again.
2) The hub and die blank are titled in relation to each other and are then forced to seat into proper position by hubbing pressure within a split second after the initial kiss of the hub into the tip of the die blank.
The face of a die blank (referred to as a “die block” in Mint jargon) is machined with a slightly conical configuration to aid in the flow of metal during hubbing. This would indicate that the initial kiss of a hub into a die blank would be restricted to this centralized area before continuing on to fill out the rest of the design. During this process the tip of a titled die blank would be positioned slightly off location away from the center of the hub into a different area of design than intended and thus the misplaced area of doubling on the affected die.
The name is LEE!
-Paul
'in hand' to examine, it does appear to be a genuine
Doubled Die Quarter, and a nice one at that!
You need to get the coin to Ken Potter, for example,
so he can examine it. This could be a very significant
discovery.
I've been in the Die Room at the Phily. Mint, and I think
that the #2 explaination (above message) is probably
correct.
Can we get other close up scans of other central portions
of the coin - it would be great if there's other doubled
design elements in those central areas.......
Fred
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
TD
<< <i>FWIW, one of the dealers on our dealer-to-dealer network reported these about a month ago, but he never sent me any pictures.
TD >>
Awww Man! There goes the glory!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
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<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
Now I did
Purchased about $1000 face value so far...
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<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
Now I did
Purchased about $1000 face value so far... >>
I wish you the best of luck my friend. I purchased a few rolls myself
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<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
Now I did
Purchased about $1000 face value so far... >>
I wish you the best of luck my friend. I purchased a few rolls myself
I don't intend to open many of them. I'll flip them still sealed on eBay when hysteria sets in!
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<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
Now I did
Purchased about $1000 face value so far... >>
I wish you the best of luck my friend. I purchased a few rolls myself
I don't intend to open many of them. I'll flip them still sealed on eBay when hysteria sets in!
Haha, good idea Will. I bought 4 rolls. I intend to open them all.
Edit: Make that 8. I just got four more from some guy in Mesquite, Texas. You didn't get quite all of them!
-Paul
I wasnt sure and hadnt yet researched it further. Thanks for doing the leg-work Lee.
<< <i>Tilted hub doubling. That sounds right from the explaination of what type of hub doubling this is.
I wasnt sure and hadnt yet researched it further. Thanks for doing the leg-work Lee.
So, what exactly would that mean? A true doubling and a chance there are more or would this be the only one?
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<< <i>Tilted hub doubling. That sounds right from the explaination of what type of hub doubling this is.
I wasnt sure and hadnt yet researched it further. Thanks for doing the leg-work Lee.
So, what exactly would that mean? A true doubling and a chance there are more or would this be the only one? >>
There are definitely more.
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<< <i>Tilted hub doubling. That sounds right from the explaination of what type of hub doubling this is.
I wasnt sure and hadnt yet researched it further. Thanks for doing the leg-work Lee.
So, what exactly would that mean? A true doubling and a chance there are more or would this be the only one? >>
There are definitely more. >>
Cool beans. Thanks.
That is really awesome.
Major congrats on a really nice find.
Geez!
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<< <i>I just cleaned out eBay of all the DC-Denver rolls available through BIN. This is one boat I refuse to miss. >>
You did'nt get them all
Now I did
Purchased about $1000 face value so far... >>
I wish you the best of luck my friend. I purchased a few rolls myself
I don't intend to open many of them. I'll flip them still sealed on eBay when hysteria sets in!
Haha, good idea Will. I bought 4 rolls. I intend to open them all.
Edit: Make that 8. I just got four more from some guy in Mesquite, Texas. You didn't get quite all of them!
-Paul >>
You didn't either!
I think I got the last 4 from the same guy in Mesquite. I'll keep checking though.
In the meantime,here are some pics i took yesterday but didnt post due to the less than stellar
outcome of my photo skills. anyway, they do still show the doubling despite how they came out.
Then i got out my loupe and tryed to get a better closeup...
the condition of the coins in the roll looked a bit better though, just no DDRs