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Check out my Morgan newp from Pinnacle... What is it? 65? 66? 67? OMG?!

anablepanablep Posts: 5,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just got off the phone with the nice people over at Pinnacle and I should be receiving this later in the week...

PCGS graded & I'll reveal their opinion soon.. until then...

Your grading guesses are always welcome...

Thanks for looking! image

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Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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~Wayne

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks very clean.
    Sure looks 67-ish from those pics....since those O-mints are known for weaker strikes.
    Pretty color.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭
    that is a great looking coin!

    you need to spice up your title if you want to hit 100 posts!

    i would also guess 67 as a 68 would be $$$$ and a nice 67 is
    a better bargain in my mind. well done~!
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    FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    MS66
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    OchoRealesOchoReales Posts: 1,500 ✭
    67. I don't see enough blast from the photos to go higher.

    Gary
    Lurker since '02. Got the seven year itch!

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The correct answer is...
























    I'll wait a little longer for more people to check it out... now that my title is "spiced up" a bit... image
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭
    Can't tell anything from those photo's other than it appears to be clean and there are no major marks.

    I'll guess 66 based on the lack of marks on the face.
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    KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Nice looking coin image Pinnacle is a great company to buy from or sell to imageimage
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    speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭
    I'll go with MS-66
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    78750Aggie78750Aggie Posts: 417 ✭✭
    1904-S, very good year, and an incredible coin. Looks virtually perfect to me. Depending on your clout, graders hangover status, and verifications...67-68.

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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    MS 67.



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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65
    weak strike
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    yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭
    Funny, I just emailed them, beautiful coin!!!image
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66
    When in doubt, don't.
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65
    weak strike


    I don't think it's weak for an O-mint Morgan. Pretty standard.

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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭
    ms-63

    K S
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ms-63

    K S



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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    I cheated.
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭
    66 with a sticker image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
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    jgrinzjgrinz Posts: 985 ✭✭✭
    MS66 Obverse
    Reverse is tough to tell with all that 'color' in the way image

    I will go with MS66 on the holder
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>66 with a sticker image >>



    do you think you are longacre?
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ms-63

    K S



    image >>


    ok lemme rephrase that,

    real grade = ms-63
    slabed grade = ms-66

    but the ugly as crap, not worth more then ms-63

    K S
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    MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    Is there no luster on this coin, or is it just the picture??

    Just the picture, I'm guessing.

    I grade it.....

    Green

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whelp...

    The 1904-O is graded MS66 by PCGS.

    I will post my pictures when it comes later this week.

    Thanks for the guesses. I can't imagine the coin being a 63 with the clean cheek and lack of distracting marks.

    I may go for a 67 on a resubmission if its worth it. The breast feathers may be a tad weak, which is common for this date.



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    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭
    regardless of what number a pla$tic co. slaps on it, why you wanna waste your time on something this ugly? no matter what "grade" it gets, it still gonna be a puke-colored wart in your collection.

    be smart, let someone else buy the number on this slab & get yourself a nice coin.

    K S
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>regardless of what number a pla$tic co. slaps on it, why you wanna waste your time on something this ugly? no matter what "grade" it gets, it still gonna be a puke-colored wart in your collection.

    be smart, let someone else buy the number on this slab & get yourself a nice coin.

    K S >>



    That's a rather mean-spirited thing to say, even for you.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it... congrats

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    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>regardless of what number a pla$tic co. slaps on it, why you wanna waste your time on something this ugly? no matter what "grade" it gets, it still gonna be a puke-colored wart in your collection.

    be smart, let someone else buy the number on this slab & get yourself a nice coin.

    K S >>



    That's a rather mean-spirited thing to say, even for you. >>



    i agree.

    first you totally misgrade the coin with a guess of a 63.
    then you say it is ugly? give me a break. that coin is not ugly. i can
    understand you not liking it but it hardly falls into the butt ugly category.

    i do not think even 291fifth would guess a grade of 63 ;P

    i was off by a point.. amazed by that clean cheek. but a 63? lol.
    it is laughable.
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    SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭


    << <i>regardless of what number a pla$tic co. slaps on it, why you wanna waste your time on something this ugly? no matter what "grade" it gets, it still gonna be a puke-colored wart in your collection.

    be smart, let someone else buy the number on this slab & get yourself a nice coin.

    K S >>




    Well...there you have it...THE Dork has spoken... now PCGS will have to buy back the coin...image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    MS67 is what I would say based on the images FWIW. The strike is a bit weak in the centeres and at the first few left obverse stars. But the surfaces look nicer than MS67. Usually see some hits around the neck edge below the jaw/neck junction. This is really clean. Luster is right for a BU of the date and in general for the period. I think the toning is attractive in that it enhances the overall eye appeal. It wouldn't be as charming blast white, this particular piece. I could see any of the top TPGs grading it MS66. If so, did it get the elusive CAC gold football? Per the images, only the strike is holding it back. Nice coin!
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No better than 66 due to the weak strike. 67's have to be slammed. At least today.

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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭
    look, my point was'nt trying to be mean. i'm trying to point out that just becuz it's ms-66+++ & in a mighty pcg$ pla$tic holder, it's gotta be some sort of phenomenal coin. at least thats what is seems like from the comments.

    are you serious???

    TAKE A LOOK at it! is it REALLY "nice"? w/ splotchy obverse rim tone & a grimy looking reverse??? is it REALLY worth ms-66 $$$???

    it's gotta be 1 of THE most common unc morgans around, & you can get a really nice one for alot less then "pcgs ms-66 money", so why would'nt you? clean cheek? big deal! it's COMMON for 1904-o to have a clean cheek!

    oh & btw, i guessed the correct ms-66 as the slabed grade BEFORE the grade was posted. i know how pcgs generally grades these, & they don't take into account negative eye appeal which that coin has.

    sorry, but it is the truth from the standpoint of what the digi-pic loooks like. if i offended, sorry again.

    buy coins not pla$tic

    K S
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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its funny, I did buy the coin & not the plastic. I love rim toned coins. Especially with a lot of blue in them. This one fits my criteria.

    I usually go for older ANACS graded material as there is a lot of rim toning going on in those holders...

    Generally, I don't buy PCGS graded coins, but for the money, the grade & the look, I felt this was a great addition to my set.

    Guess what?

    I still do.

    Thanks for the opinion all. Even you, Dorkkarl, as misguided (and abrasive) as I think you are. No worries.



    BTW: what doesn't shown in the images are the reflective, lustrous fields on this coin. Smooth as glass.
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
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    bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    So,What was the grade?65?Best,Lloyd
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
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    kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    I was going to guess 67 from the image....the tough thing to judge is the luster which I can't see in the image. That could have been thee difference between the 66 & 67?
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a Morgan dollar person, but that sure is a beautiful coin no matter what dorkkarl says.
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    DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 775 ✭✭✭✭
    I Like it!!!!

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So,What was the grade?65?Best,Lloyd >>



    Was in an earlier post, graded MS66
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a nice, clean coin. I am not sure, however, if it would make a 67 as the strike is just not there. Nice coin, nonetheless.

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Its funny, I did buy the coin & not the plastic. I love rim toned coins. Especially with a lot of blue in them. This one fits my criteria.

    I usually go for older ANACS graded material as there is a lot of rim toning going on in those holders...

    Generally, I don't buy PCGS graded coins, but for the money, the grade & the look, I felt this was a great addition to my set.

    Guess what?

    I still do.

    Thanks for the opinion all. Even you, Dorkkarl, as misguided (and abrasive) as I think you are. No worries.



    BTW: what doesn't shown in the images are the reflective, lustrous fields on this coin. Smooth as glass. >>

    hey anablep, couple of things here. 1st of all, maybe the digi-pic is crappy, & the coin's alot nicer then it looks there.

    but more important is that you played your ace. you said basically that you love the coin, & that's the bottom line.

    "if you like it, if you really REALLY like it, then the price does not matter"

    nor does my opinion, nor does cac's opinion, nor does your mama's opinion. YOU like the coin, therefore, YOU got a fantastic deal, regarldess of anything else. congratulations on buying a coin you really REALLY like!!!

    K S

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