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Is it true California is going to go to an 8.75% sales tax this year? Currently 7.75% isn't it?
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Yes, it will raise by "1 or 2 percent".

    The state taxes go up by 1%. What is not widely reported is that lots of local rates will go up as well.

    City of Pico Rivera in Los Angeles county will have a 10.25% sales tax rate. image

    Link to a PDF file with some info
    Link to a PDF file with the rates


    I shudder to think about the state income tax rates. I would not doubt that they raise it all the way to 15%, but I don't think things are set in stone yet. Also, realize that the penalities for under withholding will be absolutely punitive in the year 2009. Address that now and get your withholdings right.
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭✭
    "numismatic coins" over $1500 per sale are exempt.


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    Exodus from Kalifornia.
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"numismatic coins" over $1500 per sale are exempt. >>



    are coin shows exempt too?? I've never been taxed at a coin show in CA (except in the Heritage auctions). Probably just not collected/reported by the sellers is my guess on that.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Exodus from Kalifornia. >>



    I read that there would be a mass exodus except for the fact that people can't find buyers for their homes.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Exodus from Kalifornia. >>



    LOL, If you live in the Golden State, no way you leave over 1% bump.

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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes its true. The Taxinator wants to raise more taxes.
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    I used to live in the Bay area...San Carlos so of S.F. when I had my business in 1989 it was 7.75%... then when the earthquake hit they raised it to 8.25 saying it was temporary...it stayed at 8.25 since...so the raise is from 8.25% other counties might have been 7.75%
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love that stimulus package ya'll voted for out there ?
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    expensive weather ya'll got image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just had an hourlong conversation with a fellow musican from Germany tonight. He's Joe the Taxman by day, but musician by trade. Anyway, we talked about taxes.

    19% Sales tax in Germany
    45% Income tax rate.


    How would you like to pay a "re-unification'' tax ?
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    PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Exodus from Kalifornia. >>



    LOL, If you live in the Golden State, no way you leave over 1% bump. >>



    I disagree. Between this increase, my 9.3% state income tax, the fact that the state tells me they will pay me my tax refund "when the state's persistent cash crisis" is over, ridiculous law and anti-firearm sentiment, obnoxious voter behavior (we approved a bill to spend millions to ensure chickens get bigger cages while the state is OUT OF MONEY for god's sake), and fawning over Mr. Obama and Mrs Pelosi, I am ready to get the F WORD out of here.

    I am doing research on places to live as we speak.

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    in desperate times desperate men do desperate things. be glad ya aint got berack ospenda.
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    Same here!


    texas

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    no income tax
    no alimony

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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    The sales tax rate varies between counties. The tax increase is officially 1 cent per dollar so the expected increase should be about 1 percent. Currently I do believe there is any place in the state with a sales tax rate higher than 8.75 percent. Even with the increase there are several places in the country with even higher tax rates, some cities are beyond 10 percent already.

    I agree that very few people will leave the state over one lousy sales tax increase. Though home prices have declined as a whole in California there are still plenty of areas where even today homes are worth more now than they were in 2006.

    By the way, the name of my home state is spelled with a "C", as in "California". I don't get the whole "Kalifornia" thing. Is spelling names with a "k" in lieu of a "c" supposed to have extraordinary meaning or something?

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    Cali has the highest sales tax rate and the highest income tax rate in the nation. Cali is what the entire United States will look like once we have fully adopted European socialism. People will be leaving Cali, but it will be even more interesting to see how many people will be leaving the United States before Obama's insane tax rates take effect in 2011. This country is no longer your parents America.
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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭
    Probably just not collected/reported by the sellers is my guess on that.

    Or already factored into the price you were quoted.
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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    I may me wrong, but I recall that Hong Kong has the lowest tax rates of any non third-world place in the world. Hong Kong anyone?

    As for the aforementioned reunification tax in Germany, I have read recently that that taxation isn't expected to be abolished anytime soon.

    For those people fed up with America over social issues and taxation should give Canada a try. How does obscene tax rates and a "sin tax" sound?
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    I love Canada but too cold and further along in their socialist journey than is America. After all, Canadians come to America to get better health care. Well, at least they do for now until we implement national health care. Soon Americans will be going to south america for better health care, imagine that.
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    << <i>

    By the way, the name of my home state is spelled with a "C", as in "California". I don't get the whole "Kalifornia" thing. Is spelling names with a "k" in lieu of a "c" supposed to have extraordinary meaning or something? >>



    It is a spoof of Governor Schwarzenagger's accent, when he says it.

    The sales tax is only one part of the plan. The car tax is doubling. There is a special surcharge on income tax. Anyone under paying on tax will be walloped with huge penalties. Water rates are going to go way up because of the drought. Another 25 cents in gasoline tax was pulled back at the last minute, but will likely come back on the table next year, after this year's increases don't bring in the money as expected. Someone figured out that the income tax increase would be revenue neutral, if 200 families in the top 5% left the state. So even if the number is small, a few of the top income earners leaving can make a big impact.



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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,992 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love Canada but too cold and further along in their socialist journey than is America. After all, Canadians come to America to get better health care. Well, at least they do for now until we implement national health care. Soon Americans will be going to south america for better health care, imagine that. >>



    Or Thailand.
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The high sales taxes will just be a little more incentive to buy as much as you can from online sources that do not charge the tax. Of course, that assumes that the base prices are the same and that shipping isn't too much.

    In reality though, the only time I really ever think about the cost of the sales tax to me is when buying coins or buying a car.
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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just had an hourlong conversation with a fellow musican from Germany tonight. He's Joe the Taxman by day, but musician by trade. Anyway, we talked about taxes.

    19% Sales tax in Germany
    45% Income tax rate.


    How would you like to pay a "re-unification'' tax ? >>



    Comrade,

    At least country unite. In Amerika when music stops...no middle class.

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    The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Longacre makes his living off of understanding and using inconsistencies between the tax laws of various countries to an advantage (of course, the tax laws world-wide are not consistent). It's pretty interesting, I must say. image
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone's gotta pay for all the public services that the illegals use.
    The schools.
    The hospitals
    The roads
    etc.

    Let them sneak into the US, have children, call them US citizens, and then let them commute daily across the border for school, etc. No tax dollars coming from the parents still in Mexico but certainly using someone's tax dollars.

    Or, the ones who are in the country illegally but still using services because it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship before having the taxes pick up the hospital bills, etc.

    Good luck

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    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    It has gotten so bad in California, that when

    I give someone a present, I make them pay

    the SALES TAX.
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    This one isn't an 'illegal'. But she is gonna be pretty freaking expensive.

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    The illegals I have seen tend to work. In California, one reason wine is so cheap is because of who is picking the grapes. One reason produce is so cheap is because of who is harvesting the produce.

    Plenty of legal citizens are on the dole. In fact, i'd argue that the legal citizens are more self-entitled to something for nothing than the illegals, which tend to keep a low profile.

    I'm not saying how the system might be changed. But to put the whole burden on the 'illegals' is very short sighted and is a fallacious argument that misses some important points.

    Taxes in California go up...I do my best to learn the system and minimize what I pay. If that means consuming less, then so be it. Folks consuming less should strike fear into the folks that desire the economy to grow.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes its true. The Taxinator wants to raise more taxes. >>

    Friggin' tax-and-spend Republicans...
    Lance.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    The reason that our borders have not been closed down

    is that business want the constant stream of cheap illegal labor.

    The reason most Americans do not want the work, is because the

    wages and benefits , if any, are too minimal.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We get complex issues because government is bigger and the population is multi-cultural, not uni-lateral, not seeking ONE common goal, but a slew of special interests that's screwing it up for the WHOLE.

    Plain and simple.
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    WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK OF COMMIEFORNIA?--WHEN JACKASSES LIKE POS-LOSI, FEINSTEIN AND BOXER are the best that the state has as elected officaials what do you expect?.. the best thing is for the big eartquake to hit and destroy it like sodom and gommorah-- oh wait sodom- sanfrancisco and gommorah- LA....
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK OF COMMIEFORNIA?--WHEN JACKASSES LIKE POS-LOSI, FEINSTEIN AND BOXER are the best that the state has as elected officaials what do you expect?.. the best thing is for the big eartquake to hit and destroy it like sodom and gommorah-- oh wait sodom- sanfrancisco and gommorah- LA.... >>



    Remember the Weimar Republik. History has a lesson. This was Pre- Jesse Owens. This time it ain't about race, it's about class.
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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aw.....shut up and pay your taxes!
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Yes its true. The Taxinator wants to raise more taxes. >>

    Friggin' tax-and-spend Republicans...
    Lance. >>



    He's a RINO---Republican In Name Only.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have got to be kidding on the health care part; out of curiosity, can you cite your source regarding Canadians seeking healthcare HERE? Let them get a load of Kaiser or the VA!!!Or let them try to pay for their own Blue Cross/Blue Shield!

    Grew up in Santa Barbara and live in DC metro area and can say that if I had a similar job available there that I would move in a minute even with sales tax going to 15%! I do believe it is called "Quality of Life".

    Hey, why is it every time the Republicans take charge that they throw Cali into the dumpster economically? Reagan, Wilson, the Schwartz.....I want Jerry Brown back, no matter how strange he was.

    BTW, you think the "aliens" do not contribute to the economy? Why not ask the Republican Growers (big Ag) that brought them here? Maybe you need to see who is working out in the fields, even in 2009 doing stoop labor - I can tell you where to see this within walking distance of the coast in SoCal.
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    OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Same here!


    texas

    good pro-2a laws
    no income tax
    no alimony

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    Texas is looking better all the time. Second amendment protections. Few "hug a thug" judges. Also, the roads are straight, smooth and fast. image
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,831 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Exodus from Kalifornia. >>



    I read that there would be a mass exodus except for the fact that people can't find buyers for their homes. >>



    ...because they're (housing) still over-priced! This is why I didn't take the job I was offered in Santa Maria. At 70k/annum I'd have been taking a serious pay CUT.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Yes its true. The Taxinator wants to raise more taxes. >>

    Friggin' tax-and-spend Republicans...
    Lance. >>



    He's a RINO---Republican In Name Only. >>



    Last I checked the governor, just like the president, doesn't spend money. Check who is in charge of the state house and senate--just like the Federal congress.

    PS Most of the state is sane but the govt functions and most of the bad press we get comes out of the two large urban areas. It's becoming almost useless for the rest of us to vote. --Jerry
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    Chicago sales tax is 10.25%, so don't feel so bad.

    Edit: Sources



    << <i>This one isn't an 'illegal'. But she is gonna be pretty freaking expensive.

    image
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    I don't know...she just got offered $1 Million dollars to make 1 adult videos with Vivid Entertainment! Article Here. If she signs a contract, her children will get full medical and dental insurance...how crazy is that?
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Chicago sales tax is 10.25%, so don't feel so bad.

    Edit: Sources



    << <i>This one isn't an 'illegal'. But she is gonna be pretty freaking expensive.

    image
    >>



    I don't know...she just got offered $1 Million dollars to make 1 adult videos with Vivid Entertainment! Article Here. If she signs a contract, her children will get full medical and dental insurance...how crazy is that? >>



    I believe she turned it down. Perhaps the state should cut off her support and medical since she turned down lucrative employment. --Jerry image
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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭
    Chicago sales tax is 10.25%,

    But on coins it is zero.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,850 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Chicago sales tax is 10.25%,

    But on coins it is zero. >>



    Bravo.
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    << <i>You have got to be kidding on the health care part; out of curiosity, can you cite your source regarding Canadians seeking healthcare HERE? Let them get a load of Kaiser or the VA!!!Or let them try to pay for their own Blue Cross/Blue Shield!

    Grew up in Santa Barbara and live in DC metro area and can say that if I had a similar job available there that I would move in a minute even with sales tax going to 15%! I do believe it is called "Quality of Life".

    Hey, why is it every time the Republicans take charge that they throw Cali into the dumpster economically? Reagan, Wilson, the Schwartz.....I want Jerry Brown back, no matter how strange he was.

    BTW, you think the "aliens" do not contribute to the economy? Why not ask the Republican Growers (big Ag) that brought them here? Maybe you need to see who is working out in the fields, even in 2009 doing stoop labor - I can tell you where to see this within walking distance of the coast in SoCal. >>



    Regarding Canadians use of America's health care, I know this through personal experience. I also have many British friends who get their medical, dental, and plastic surgery in the US whilst on holiday as well.

    Regarding the quality of life in Santa Barbara, oh i do agree, it's great. However, you do overpay for it in a big way unless you are on the other side of the distribution of wealth.

    With respect to Republican Cali Governors, I really don't know much about past Governors but it is of my humble opinion that Arnold doesn't stand a chance against those crazy spending freaks that Cali calls legislators.

    With respect to your opinion on non-US citizen agricultural employees and their Big Business Bullies, I agree with you. However, both republicans and democrats turn their heads and allow it to happen because they want their political contributions, and the Democrats want to legalize the aliens only for their votes. It's sick. THIS IS NOT YOUR PARENT'S AMERICA.
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    <<Cali has the highest sales tax rate and the highest income tax rate in the nation.>>

    Sounds like Chicago has higher sales tax for one. Vermont's highest income tax rate tops CA. Some cities add their own income tax making New York City and Philly pretty expensive.

    CA has structural problems. A simple majority can vote for increased spending but a 2/3rds super majority is required to increase revenue. So a minority of republicans can stubbornly block a budget. Gerrymandering assures little party competition for legislative districts so representatives feel comfortable grandstanding their political views rather than working toward a compromise solution. Initiatives allow people to vote for spending without forcing them to pay for it.

    Anyway sales tax varies by county. Coin sales totaling $1,500 or more are considered investments and are not taxed.
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    << <i><<Cali has the highest sales tax rate and the highest income tax rate in the nation.>>

    Sounds like Chicago has higher sales tax for one. Vermont's highest income tax rate tops CA. Some cities add their own income tax making New York City and Philly pretty expensive.

    CA has structural problems. A simple majority can vote for increased spending but a 2/3rds super majority is required to increase revenue. So a minority of republicans can stubbornly block a budget. Gerrymandering assures little party competition for legislative districts so representatives feel comfortable grandstanding their political views rather than working toward a compromise solution. Initiatives allow people to vote for spending without forcing them to pay for it.

    Anyway sales tax varies by county. Coin sales totaling $1,500 or more are considered investments and are not taxed. >>




    Oh please!! Vermont's max marginal tax rate is 9.5% at $357K. Cali's max marginal tax rate is 10.3% at $1MM and 9.3% at JUST $47K. Things that make ya' go hmmm.

    Now, is it me or did you just compare the city of Chicago to the State of California?? O-M-G!! Again I repeat, Cali has the highest general statewide sales tax in the nation at 7.25%. EFFECTIVE 04/01/09, California's general statewide sales tax will be 8.25%. The next highest state sales tax is 7% charged by Indiana, NC, and RI.

    Now, some jurisdictions in Illinois and Arizona have the two highest LOCAL surtax rates of 11.5% and 10.6% but as of 04/01/09, Cali's max LOCAL will be 10.25%, the third highest. And by the way, Arizona is not really a sales tax; it's a transaction privilege tax, a liability of the vendor not the consumer.

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    I'm not a tax expert, just looked at a list that put VT at 9.5% and CA at 9.3% for income tax. To figure you total state tax burden you need to look at property tax in addition to income and sales tax.

    The retirement living website says the Tax Foundation puts CA 5th when ranking total state tax burden:

    It is estimated by the Tax Foundation that the nation as a whole will pay on average 9.7% of its income in state and local taxes in 2008, down from 9.9% in 2007 primarily because income grew faster than tax collections between 2007 and 2008.

    New Jersey residents paid 11.8%, topping the charts. New Yorkers were close behind, paying 11.7%, and Connecticut was third at 11.1%. The top 10 were rounded out by Maryland (10.8%), Hawaii (10.6%), California (10.5%), Ohio (10.4%). Vermont (10.3%), Wisconsin (10.2%) and Rhode Island (10.2%).
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    rwhiterwhite Posts: 326


    << <i>WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK OF COMMIEFORNIA?--WHEN JACKASSES LIKE POS-LOSI, FEINSTEIN AND BOXER are the best that the state has as elected officaials what do you expect?.. the best thing is for the big eartquake to hit and destroy it like sodom and gommorah-- oh wait sodom- sanfrancisco and gommorah- LA.... >>



    Wow... hoping for the destruction of California and the loss of some 40,000,000 people. Unvelievable. Maybe what you said was in jest, but as someone who lives in LA metro, I think it was in poor taste.

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    Oh gheez! This all started from my simple statement that Cali had the highest state income tax and the highest state sales tax, and I think my statement was proven in my post above. Case closed. Now, you want to talk about local income taxes, property taxes and effective overall tax burdens for retirees, well you're on your own. But don't forget your gas tax, your sin tax (cigs and alcohol), your death tax, doc stamps, tire tax, battery tax etc etc etc.
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey wait I thought core values is what Republicans were all about - sure do trumpet them up all the time. President is captain of the ship, just like the governor and therefore responsible for the ship and its direction. When the ship founders or strikes a rock, he/she is responsible. If the economy of the country crashed these last eight years, right or wrong, president takes the rap.

    BTW, uh let's see, the previous eight years presented us with the alternative to "socialism". This is not what it is about now that we have somebody as president that may leave a few more scraps around for the average joe. If privatization and trickle down have failed so miserably, which the evidence of this hardhit economy so blatantly demonstrate I think this trick of labelling new approaches "socialism" is trying to redirect peoples' attention. If the mentioned cornerstones of Reaganomics has failed so bad, can we do worse? Or should we still keep doing what is best for GM in hopes that it somehow will get this country going down the right path?
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