Can anyone tell me which is Albert Pujols true desired RC
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Hi,
I am thinking of buying a Albert Pujols RC. Not having any idea on modern cards I was wondering which RC is the most desired/coveted and what is the approx price in a psa 9 or 10 if available.
thanks in advance for your help.
I am thinking of buying a Albert Pujols RC. Not having any idea on modern cards I was wondering which RC is the most desired/coveted and what is the approx price in a psa 9 or 10 if available.
thanks in advance for your help.
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Matt
A more affordable version that I am partial to is the 2001 Finest Auto. You can get a PSA 9 for around $300 (I think). It is actually his first Topps card to come out that year.
Shane
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and it could be disastrous.. I hope pujols is never found on these lists..
<< <i>Bowman Chrome Auto is hand numbered to 500. The card was a redemption card, it was not circulated in packs, so the 500 cards is assuming every redemption card was redeemed. The card seems to be holding its value very well. If your going to purchase just one Pujols RC, this is by far the best card to target and acquire. >>
Matt,
Right on with that info. ^^
It is estimated that about 350-400 copies were redeemed. There are much less than the original 500 copies out there. According to Topps, they destroyed all the remaining copies once the redemption expired in 2003.
of a mystery, numbered to 500 but issued via redemption, there is no one on this earth who knows how many are out there. The sad fact is that the serial
number on the backs can be removed and added back again making the numbering system flawed.
This card is about as safe as cards get..solid player, solid brand, and an on card auto. You just can't beat that.
Kevin
What I'm selling
Building Sets, Collecting Texas Rangers, and Texas Tech Red Raiders
<< <i>If you like Vintage cards, and vintage themed cards (ie., Topps Heritage, Topps 205, Bowman Heritage), then I would go with his 2001 Bowman Heritage #351. Its a very clean looking card and can be had under $100. >>
<<I was wondering which RC is the most desired/coveted>>
2001 Bowman Chrome Auto
<< <i>The Pujols BC Auto is about the only card in modern history to stand the test of time. Only Lebron and Tiger can say that in other sports. The card is somewhat
of a mystery, numbered to 500 but issued via redemption, there is no one on this earth who knows how many are out there. The sad fact is that the serial
number on the backs can be removed and added back again making the numbering system flawed.
This card is about as safe as cards get..solid player, solid brand, and an on card auto. You just can't beat that.
Kevin >>
Yes, but even though the serial numbers can be altered, they only produced 500 cards. The only copies that are worth altering the numbers to add a potential selling premium are 1/500, 5/500, 36/500, and maybe 500/500. Topps has already stated that they destroyed the remaining copies once the redemption expired in 2003, so we do know there are less than 500 copies out there.
<< <i>I was wondering which RC is the most desired/coveted >>
Not trying to argue semantics, but isn't that determined by the each individual person, and thus makes this board and our each own collections unique and personal?
Looking at IJustLoveCards PSA registry they're all vintage sets, maybe she's got a soft spot for the 1948 Bowman Set, I don't know. I know back in late 2001/early 2002 when I was still in high school and trying to knock out my first ever 2 hand collated sets (this and 01 Topps Gallery) I was coveting these two Pujols RCs much more than the 01 Chrome Auto.
Truth be told I trade one right now for a 2007 Topps Turkey Presidents Card of Andrew Johnson.......
Not trying to high jack the thread, just my 2 cents. My favorite is still the 01 Bowman Heritage (wish they would have put him in the Topps Heritage set that year).
What I'm selling
Building Sets, Collecting Texas Rangers, and Texas Tech Red Raiders
What I'm selling
Building Sets, Collecting Texas Rangers, and Texas Tech Red Raiders
<< <i>The same number don't pick that card equals the same numeber that would trade one for a 07 Turkey Red President Andrew Johnson..... >>
Well, only a bonehead would do that, but anyway..
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<< <i>The same number don't pick that card equals the same numeber that would trade one for a 07 Turkey Red President Andrew Johnson..... >>
Well, only a bonehead would do that, but anyway.. >>
Stan, seriously, is it possible for you to reply to a post without arguing or namecalling? EVERYONE here is entitled to their opinion and he has his. Just because it isn't the same as yours doesn't make it wrong. It certainly doesn't make him a bonehead.
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<< <i>The same number don't pick that card equals the same numeber that would trade one for a 07 Turkey Red President Andrew Johnson..... >>
Well, only a bonehead would do that, but anyway.. >>
Stan, seriously, is it possible for you to reply to a post without arguing or namecalling? EVERYONE here is entitled to their opinion and he has his. Just because it isn't the same as yours doesn't make it wrong. It certainly doesn't make him a bonehead. >>
Would you trade a 2001 Bowman Chrome Pujols for an 07' Turkey Red Andrew Johnson? Would that not be a boneheaded thing to do?
EDIT: to clarify my point
Just wondering if anyone has become a little gun shy of pulling the trigger on these high dollar cards not knowing if Albert or who else could be on the list of players that took PED's?? I'm not saying I suspect Albert, but anyone could have tried or taken PED's one time or had a bad test or anything and we all know how screwed up MLB and the players association have been during this last decade.
brian
<< <i>I always worry about those modern cards being so expensive and losing value, has this card kept its value and is the card limited in quantity? >>
I would rather own a low grade Mantle rookie than an auto Pujols card for that kind of coin.
<< <i>Seriously, did I affect your life so badly that you had to play police here? >>
You're right. My mistake. When you first "corrected" him for suggesting that he thought the 2001 Bowman Heritage rookie was most desired, to him, you were right. He was clearly wrong to believe that he desired a 2001 Bowman Heritage Albert Pujols rookie card for his set. He obviously wanted the 2001 Bowman Chrome autographed rookie that he would just include with his 2001 Bowman Heritage set.
It all makes sense to me now.
I must be a bonehead to not have figured that out sooner.
edited to add: nice edit, Stan.
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<< <i>Seriously, did I affect your life so badly that you had to play police here? >>
You're right. My mistake. When you first "corrected" him for suggesting that he thought the 2001 Bowman Heritage rookie was most desired, to him, you were right. He was clearly wrong to believe that he desired a 2001 Bowman Heritage Albert Pujols rookie card for his set. He obviously wanted the 2001 Bowman Chrome autographed rookie that he would just include with his 2001 Bowman Heritage set.
It all makes sense to me now.
I must be a bonehead to not have figured that out sooner.
edited to add: nice edit, Stan. >>
First off, yes, I did edit to ask you a question. I guess you feel your are the board police now?
I don't mind what he desired, that is his choice, and there is nothing wrong with what he likes. But that is not Pujols most desired rookie.
But......... the OP wanted to know what Pujols most desired true rookie card was. Clearly, it is the 01' Bowman Chrome auto. That was the point I was making, and like I said, if you polled 100 collectors, I am sure that card wins in a landslide.. Honestly, you know that, but just want to make something out of nothing once again.
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I would like to change that to 400 now that Stan has made a quick reply. lol
I agree with others who say that a 2001 Bowman Chrome rookie would likely be his most valuable, trusted and sought after rookie card. It's a great looking card, as evidenced here:
SMR on the Bowman Chrome is as follows:
PSA 9 - $3,000
PSA 10 - $5,500
A PSA 9 just ended without a buyer at $2,875.
Conversely, another card that may be more desirable to vintage collectors would be the Bowman Heritage rookie. It is much less sought after and much less valuable than his other rookies because it is much more plentiful. However, it is a great looking card in it's own right, as evidenced here:
SMR on the Bowman Heritage is as follows:
PSA 9 - $85
PSA 10 - $300
There are no PSA 9's or 10's on eBay or in the recently closed items as far as I can see. A PSA 8 just ended for $27.06.
Good luck with whichever card you choose for your collection.
Craig
If patient, a clean PSA 9 can probably be had for $2,400-$2,700 in this economy.
* To add: the member of this board that had a PSA 10 can chime in with what he got out of his if he wants to. I can't remember his user name on here, but maybe someone does. I know his was listed on Ebay right after the one sold for $15,000, but I never seen what the final price was that he got for it.
I don't own a Pujols rookie. Nothing about him as I like him as a player just fine and I have heard he is the greatest humanitarian in the world, but I have never had the desire to spend big money on a modern card. Likewise I don't have a LeBron rookie, A-rod, etc.... I would much rather have a vintage card. That's just what I prefer. I prefer players that have ONE rookie card.
Having said all that, and getting back to the question at hand, I am sure Stan The Man is right about what is the most "desirable" Pujols rookie card to the masses as the guy collects Pujols. However, if I were looking to buy a Pujols card I would be interested in the more affordable varieties as I am not spending $1,000 on a card unless the name on the card is something like Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, etc.... I thus would find one in my price range that looks nice and go with that. There is no doubt there are a ton of Pujols "rookie" cards to choose from!
The 01' Bowman Chrome Pujols auto is to the modern generation, what the 52' Topps Mantle is to those baby boomers. There are less 2001 Bowman Chrome Pujols rookies in existence, than 52' Topps Mantles, and Pujols is perhaps the best all around hitter since Ted Williams. If Pujols continues to put up good numbers for the next 5 seasons, he should reach/pass 500 homeruns, along with a career average in the .330 range. What players have accomplished those stats in the history of the game?
Sure, there will always be the arguement of modern vs vintage, and for the most part vintage wins out, but there are key modern issues that will remain pillars of the hobby for this generation(just like Mantle is to some of the older guys). The 01' Bowman Chrome Pujols is one of those cards. The thing that makes that card so special/important to the hobby is that it's the first autographed, truly limited edition rookie card of a modern superstar MLB player. There is really no other modern rookie card in baseball to compare it to. Griffey, A-Rod, ect... did not have a signed true rookie card limited to less than /500 copies. Their lowest production rookie cards may be 5,000 copies, and non of those are signed.
* I collect modern & vintage. The key on modern stuff is to get the key cards, and stay away from the garbage that has littered the modern market for too many years.
1985 Topps Mark McGwire
1986 Topps Traded Jose Canseco
1987 Donruss Mark McGwire
1987 Donruss Barry Bonds
1989 Upper Deck Ken Griffey Jr
1990 Leaf Frank Thomas
1990 Leaf Sammy Sosa
What are they worth today? Just food for thought. Obviously, the Pujols is on a much grander scale seeing as how there were fewer produced and that the card is signed. Still, there is a point at which modern cards seem to fall off in value. It is inevitable.
Maybe Pujols will be different, but I doubt it.
<< <i>Just wondering if anyone has become a little gun shy of pulling the trigger on these high dollar cards not knowing if Albert or who else could be on the list of players that took PED's?? >>
Brian, Absolutely, I want and am ready to purchase either a Bowman Chrome Auto or at the very least his SPX card, and will not touch either until I know definatively that Pujols is not on that list of 104 players that tested positive. Its to big of a gamble in my book on cards that expensive.
I would consider myself a modern collector and lot of the people I associate with are modern collectors, no one that I know of says boy I wish Pujols signed rookie to x/500. Even being a modern guy I would rather have a 52 Mantle.
leathtech, you must not go to shows or talk with the "Chrome Generation".
I understand that Pujols MIGHT end up as the greatest player of all time. I really do get that. He might win the triple crown a couple times. I also understand his key rookie cards have very low production numbers. However, I also know that Pujols MIGHT be on THE list, might have a career ending injury or might who knows what else. All I am saying is that I think modern cards have more downside than upside. I believe the ridiculously inflated values of Pujols cards already has factored in that he will have a great career and make the hof. Anything less than that and the cards go down in value. Anything major, like being on the steroid list, and his cards may go way down in value. I really hope he is not on the list as he is a great player and apparently a great guy. However, if he is on the list his cards go down in value overnight... but the prices of vintage cards will not change since it's too late for them to be on the steroid list.
<< <i>Literally millions of those cards you mentioned were produced, Gumby. >>
That doesn't change the fact that the cards were worth HUNDREDS of dollars and now only some of them are worth TENS of dollars. As I said, it is on a different scale, but just as every other modern player who has 4 or 5 or 20 rookies have proven...unless Pujols stays at this absolute top level of performance for another 5 years (at a minimum), he will see the same drop in value (on scale with the availability).
<< <i>Stan-
I understand that Pujols MIGHT end up as the greatest player of all time. I really do get that. He might win the triple crown a couple times. I also understand his key rookie cards have very low production numbers. However, I also know that Pujols MIGHT be on THE list, might have a career ending injury or might who knows what else. All I am saying is that I think modern cards have more downside than upside. I believe the ridiculously inflated values of Pujols cards already has factored in that he will have a great career and make the hof. Anything less than that and the cards go down in value. Anything major, like being on the steroid list, and his cards may go way down in value. I really hope he is not on the list as he is a great player and apparently a great guy. However, if he is on the list his cards go down in value overnight... but the prices of vintage cards will not change since it's too late for them to be on the steroid list. >>
Yeah, I am not worried if Pujols is on that list. No worries at all. I know what he stands for, and I rest confident in that, since I have done volunteer for their foundation, been around Albert, and know what is most important in his life. As he said, what is in the dark will come to light, and he is not worried about the steroid stuff, since he has nothing to hide. His faith, family, and that foundation(the kids) mean the world to him. I don't believe he would do anything to ruin what he has been blessed with. Even he has stated that he feared God too much to do something to ruin what God has blessed him with. Either way, I collect for enjoyment, not just money.
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<< <i>Literally millions of those cards you mentioned were produced, Gumby. >>
That doesn't change the fact that the cards were worth HUNDREDS of dollars and now only some of them are worth TENS of dollars. As I said, it is on a different scale, but just as every other modern player who has 4 or 5 or 20 rookies have proven...unless Pujols stays at this absolute top level of performance for another 5 years (at a minimum), he will see the same drop in value (on scale with the availability). >>
Actually, it does. Production numbers changed the whole picture for those cards you mentioned(not to mention mass grading of those cards). Millions produced vs less than 500 copies in existence..
If Griffey had a signed rookie card numbered to /500 or less, it would be a four figure card as well.
Buy/collect/think what you want. It does not matter to me. What will be, will be, I guess. I don't worry about it too much, since I collect what I enjoy.
Enjoy your collection, STMM...just as I enjoy mine.
<< <i>Obviously, STMM doesn't understand the concept of working in scale. I'm clearly not going to be able to make my point, so I'll just leave it alone.
Enjoy your collection, STMM...just as I enjoy mine. >>
Maybe your are the one who doesn't understand the concept of mass grading and millions produced hurt those cards you mentioned. Either way, like you said, enjoy your collection. I know I enjoy mine.
If you notice he said:
IF YOU LIKE VINTAGE or something like that.
He was not arguing against your choice he was simply giving her another choice.
Steve
I was pointing out to Mathew that she wanted to know Pujols most desired rookie card, not what he liked.
Just forget it.. Please, let's move on..
Steve
<< <i>You are wrong GumbyFan. Basic math principles do not apply with King Albert, the sacred, demi-god, and best athlete of all time... ahh shoot, best PERSON of all time! Even if he is on the list STM and FANATICALdango will still pay $15,000 for an autographed modern card because it's a "limited edition." You just don't understand. Sheesh. I mean really, Albert is the greatest human being of all time. He hits home runs, provides for poor kids, saves the world, and is god fearing! Reminds me of my very religious roommate in college who was "celibate" and then 9 months later.... >>
You see, this is the moronic garbage that goes on here everytime we try to have a discussion about Pujols. For one minute, we can dicuss in a fairly civil manner, then you have to go a trying to mock a person for the player they enjoy watching play. This place is a waste of time anymore. Geez..
Just maybe it's because you sound like a member of a cult. When they talk about drinking the kool aid they are talking about people like you. I mean really, you sound like a complete lunatic. You and FANATICALdango just sound crazy when you start talking about Pujols. I like him as a player but I honestly think you guys would be suicidal if it turned out he was on THE list, if he got into criminal trouble or anything else that commonly happens to professional athletes. The guy is just a baseball player. Sometimes I think you don't read other people's posts anymore.
If I could get it when it was issued I'd take it of course, but It is not something
I'd pay thousands for. The upside is all but used up.
Steve
Do you think the guy is going to tell anyone he did PED's? THe dude went from a non prospect, trasnformed his body, and was all of a sudden one of the best hitters on the planet...and no, he was NOT the best hitter...Barry Bonds was in his time.
Now he is saying all this stuff about fearing God, give me a break. That all sounds like a big bunch of freakishly scary b.s. It kind of reminds me of the mission Barry Sanders was on, and how he said he was celibate. Yeah, then we find out he was lying all the time and had fathered kids.
The people hiding behind a professed religious faith, as a reason why they don't do something, often have stuff to hide. It is a good cover...those priests will tell ya.
The only surprising thing to me is that you guys believe these jokers so easily.
By the way, that list of 104 doesn't mean anything. Only a moron would believe that if a guy is NOT on there, then he is clean. Those tests were so easy to beat...just as they are now.
I recommend to anyone looking to drop 10k, to please DO NOT drop it on that card. You will regret later on, and not just because of PED's, because reality will soon strike on the prices of those cards.
Pujols freaks, you are welcome to spend what you please, because you can always have the option to drop your pants to your ankles at any time with the card in your hand
<< <i>It is a good cover...those priests will tell ya. >>
It's a good cover because most people who "hide" behind a professed religious faith are sincere. Saying that religious people "often" have stuff to hide is ignorant.
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