Submitting in traditional hard top loaders?

gwinny

Will PSA accept these or do I really need a card saver?
Thanks

OAKESY25

I think they will accept them but there is a higher chance of damaging the card when removing..
and that is at your own risk.

Dboneesq

Thee is probably a greater chance that the cards would move around in shipment with the top loader. And as Oakesy stated, all at your own risk.

Estil

I was wondering that myself because I have a set of 1993 Finest jumbo all-stars I'm considering getting graded and in that case, I have no choice but to send in penny sleeves/top loaders.

mickeymantle24

Somebody was telling me it is almost possitive you will not get a 10 if you sub in toploaders.

eyebone

Do NOT do this! I did this once and am certain to this day that the PSA grader was unduly hard on my cards. They specifically ask for cardsavers and that is precisely what you should use.

Good luck with the submission. Eyebone

WinPitcher

Estil what do you mean you have no choice?


Steve

WinPitcher

From the packing guidelines page:


We do not accept hard acrylic snap cases, top loaders or screw down holders. These holders allow movement during shipment which may result in damage


So NO they do not.


Steve

lawnmowerman

The reason why toploaders are not recommended is really quite simple. Say you submit your cards in toploaders. 9 out of 10 guys here would be smart enough to use a penny sleeve in conjunction with the toploader. That said, during shipment, you cards would be fine going through the mail as long as the toploaders are secure at the top to keep the card from flying out.

Where you would run into trouble is ,when the grader has to deal with your cards. The removing of the card is not the problem. The problem is, after the card has been graded, it has to go back into the toploader and off to the slabbing room. The grader is not going to take the time to put your cards back into the penny sleeve and then back into the toploader and nor should he have too. The card will just be slide back into the toploader less the penny sleeve. That is where cards would be damaged.

That is why cardsavers are the way to go. Even if you submit in a cardsaver + a penny sleeve, the grader can just put your card back into the cardsaver less the penny sleeve with alot less chance of damage.

Stingray

<< <i>The reason why toploaders are not recommended is really quite simple. Say you submit your cards in toploaders. 9 out of 10 guys here would be smart enough to use a penny sleeve in conjunction with the toploader. That said, during shipment, you cards would be fine going through the mail as long as the toploaders are secure at the top to keep the card from flying out.

Where you would run into trouble is ,when the grader has to deal with your cards. The removing of the card is not the problem. The problem is, after the card has been graded, it has to go back into the toploader and off to the slabbing room. The grader is not going to take the time to put your cards back into the penny sleeve and then back into the toploader and nor should he have too. The card will just be slide back into the toploader less the penny sleeve. That is where cards would be damaged.

That is why cardsavers are the way to go. Even if you submit in a cardsaver + a penny sleeve, the grader can just put your card back into the cardsaver less the penny sleeve with alot less chance of damage. >>




That was goi g to be my question. Do most of you submit your cards in penney sleeves and the cardsaver or just the cardsaver??

WinPitcher

Most questions can be answered somewhere on the site.

It took me all of 1 minute to find that.

I suggest anyone new to submitting here to go to the submission page and
check it out. There it explains how to send your cards to PSA, how to fill out a submission
etc.

Or you can just ask us here.

Steve

WinPitcher

Kirk I don't, I use only the card saver.

I think it is the number 1

Steve

lawnmowerman

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That was goi g to be my question. Do most of you submit your cards in penney sleeves and the cardsaver or just the cardsaver?? >>



I have subbed cards both ways.

For long term storage, I always use a penny sleeve with my cardsavers. I had some nice cards in cardsavers with no penny sleeves for a year or so and when I went to take them out, the paper peeled off a few of them. I'm sure it was due to humidity and length of storage.

I always use penny sleeves now

swartz1

they have accepted them in the past...but follow the suggestions provided by others...

mickeymantle24

I usually ship without the sleeve. I find it hard to shove the card down in the cardsaver with a sleeve on it

Alfonz24

PWE

lawnmowerman

<< <i>PWE >>



That actually would be a cool experiment. Submit some mint commons in a pwe with no cardsaver, toploader or penny sleeve and see how they look when they come back

Alfonz24

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<< <i>PWE >>



That actually would be a cool experiment. Submit some mint commons in a pwe with no cardsaver, toploader or penny sleeve and see how they look when they come back >>



Chuckie does America.

lawnmowerman

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That actually would be a cool experiment. Submit some mint commons in a pwe with no cardsaver, toploader or penny sleeve and see how they look when they come back >>



Chuckie does America. >>

Estil

<< <i>Estil what do you mean you have no choice?


Steve >>



What I mean is that there are no Card Savers that will fit 1993 Finest jumbo All-Stars (they're just under 5x7).

DrJ

In all honesty if you are dropping the money on grading, it would probably make sense to spend a few bucks on a pack of Card Savers. You can probably score 100 for less than 10 bucks.

mickeymantle24

I would definitly try to send them in in card savers, You are gauranteed no 10s if you send them in in top loaders. WOW that was alot of in's

mealeworm

I look at it like this. You need to do everything you can to unsure you get the desired grades. You need to follow the guidelines regardless if you agree or not. I allows put the service in marker really big on atleast two sides of the box. Guess what... I haven't had any delays getting my cards checked in either. I would just follow the rules, do your part, put your cards in cardsavers and hopefully you can count on PSA to do theirs.

JMO
Dave

mknez

I had to use top loader to submit some supersized cards. I called customer service, they said go ahead. I put them in a sleeve first, and taped the top loaded shut.

They came back fine, with the expected grades, and I did get one ten.

I wouldn't do it if a card saver is availabe in the size you need, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Mike

OAKESY25

I have sent 5x7's in in top loaders.. because they were pictures and pretty flimsy
needed the rigidity of the top loader

BassPro77

it states on the submission form they send you.

" PSA is not responsible for any damage to cards or tickets submitted in hard plastic top loaders or card savers II's."

so yes you can. i would go with the card saver I's to save your self from any damage that may occur.

Estil

<< <i>I had to use top loader to submit some supersized cards. I called customer service, they said go ahead. I put them in a sleeve first, and taped the top loaded shut.

They came back fine, with the expected grades, and I did get one ten.

I wouldn't do it if a card saver is availabe in the size you need, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Mike >>



So if I do it that way, the cards will be graded and will not be damaged? I hope so because as far as I can tell, the 1993 Finest jumbos are pretty much flawless. I doubt any should get lower than an 8, and I wouldn't be surprised to get at least a few 10s. It's just the expense of the grading as well as how well the cards will fit in the holder.