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Rainbow PCGS 1951-D ! Secure MS66 Plus + !!

This pedigreed coin just sold @ Heritage for a paltry 2 grand ..........

A 51-D that sits in a PCGS 66 FBL holder and looks as colorful as this comes around once every decade or so -

I know , I never saw one in twenty years of searching .

So with a history of the date selling for as much as twice what this one brought ,

why didn't this bring over 5 grand in a furious bidding battle ?

It is soooo rare with color like this in this grade , I can only guess even serious Franklin people have lost complete interest in the series



MS 66 FBL Secure Plus +

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    is the area above the left side of U of TRUST what you are talking about?
    LCoopie = Les
  • Someone is holding the bag on that one. Multi thousands for a Franklin? I hope they enjoy it. Unreal.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it has been covered in infant feces... yuck.... Cheers, RickO
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,683 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like it has been covered in infant feces... yuck.... Cheers, RickO >>

    I would have just said it was a bad picture. Do I get to compare white coins with Michael Jackson, now?
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  • << <i>So with a history of the date selling for as much as twice what this one brought ,

    why didn't this bring over 5 grand in a furious bidding battle ? >>





    << <i>Unfortunately , this example -as so many other colorful PCGS Franklin's; has been "worked" by Steve Leber- affectionately known as " THE BEEF "

    he would take a toothpick and a mild acidic solution and would create "spots" in strategic locations to misdirect attention from bag marks and

    problems..........

    Using this method , he got a lot of Franklin's to upgrade -but he seemed to really focus on the 51-D's.

    I doubt a handful of people know of his "trick" ,but it's easy to spot . >>



    I think you might have answered your own question.
    A lie told often enough becomes the truth. ~Vladimir Lenin
  • So you consider it overgraded?

    That's why I like to have someone like Feld view coins for me if I can't attend the auction.

    I can recall in the old days, asking Beef "How much?"

    "I'm not done with that one yet," was a common reply!
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    I don't really care for that coin. I mean it's not bad but from the picture it does nothing for me. Everyone seems to have little tricks to get higher grades- I think a lot of people use this method. image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    nice toning42107-

    "I think you might have answered your own question. "

    i thought that as i was writing .....image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845


    << <i>is the area above the left side of U of TRUST what you are talking about? >>



    that and the bridge of his nose , to the right of Y in Liberty , and that snake like vertical line that bisects his shoulder
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    "So you consider it overgraded? "

    oh hell yes -great example of color pushing the grade up .

    Nobody bid from the floor on this lot .......so I figure it's not a true 66 ;

    if it was ,(as I said - it's rare as the dickens with color and even idiots know that)

    , it would have brought alot more $$
  • BcsicanBcsican Posts: 1,068
    If that coin would have been in an OGH it would have been mine...
  • Looks like a piece of crap to me. Most I'd
    pay for it is $10.
    image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    Legendary Aerosmith manager Steve Leber is a coin doc?
    i would have never guessed.

    otherwise... a coin over graded and doctors known to play tricks to
    get higher grades? i am shocked. not. par for the course in this hobby as people try to find the greater fool.
  • I saw this coin in hand and was blown away - the Heritage pix did not begin to capture it's flash underneath color's that absolutely floor the viewer.

    It holds up to scrutinizing under a 10x glass and halogen lighting .

    I can only assume there were no Franklin specialists @ the auction and that Mr. Tomaska was tapped out after buying that complete PCGS set;

    as this coin would have no trouble showing up in his newsletter @ $ 5800.00 !

    It is the most exciting toned semi-key Franklin I have seen in years and how very lucky I have been

    just to see it !
  • As has been said a meelion times: "You can not grade a coin from a picture!"
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






    Best Franklin Website
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately , this example -as so many other colorful PCGS Franklin's; has been "worked" by Steve Leber- affectionately known as " THE BEEF "

    he would take a toothpick and a mild acidic solution and would create "spots" in strategic locations to misdirect attention from bag marks and

    problems..........

    Using this method , he got a lot of Franklin's to upgrade -but he seemed to really focus on the 51-D's.

    I doubt a handful of people know of his "trick" ,but it's easy to spot . >>



    Very interesting. Is this also what caused (what look to my eye like) milkspots on the reverse?
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    It's almost impossible to see what the coin looks like from the picture above. But I see some nice colors hiding in the pic!
    "It is what it is."


  • << <i>

    << <i>Unfortunately , this example -as so many other colorful PCGS Franklin's; has been "worked" by Steve Leber- affectionately known as " THE BEEF "

    he would take a toothpick and a mild acidic solution and would create "spots" in strategic locations to misdirect attention from bag marks and

    problems..........

    Using this method , he got a lot of Franklin's to upgrade -but he seemed to really focus on the 51-D's.

    I doubt a handful of people know of his "trick" ,but it's easy to spot . >>



    Very interesting. Is this also what caused (what look to my eye like) milkspots on the reverse? >>



    MIKE-
    I think yes; he put a few stains on the rev. so as to throw off suspicion .


  • << <i>As has been said a meelion times: "You can not grade a coin from a picture!" >>




    that's right Grasshopper - you can not grade from a pix ; but you should be able to get an idea of how the coin might look in hand .

    In this instance , the Heritage pix resembles the coins features- but don't come close to showing what it really looks like .


  • << <i>It's almost impossible to see what the coin looks like from the picture above. But I see some nice colors hiding in the pic! >>



    p.c;

    i looked at it under halogen , sunlight, incandescent, fluorescent , etc -

    you would love the colors image
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting thread.
    Thanks for posting this and opening a few eyes.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • this is the kind of coin that re-energises my passion for the next spectacular toned Franklin ;

    did nobody see this coin @ the auction ?
  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    New pic's?






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  • I will work on some nice pix imageimage
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    not ready yet ..........

    image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    You would think so ............but PCGS put it in a nice new MS-65 holder !
  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    BEAUTIFUL Coin!






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  • I say NT, but photo is juiced. I've seen enough neon green to know when it looks a bit too radioactive.
    A lie told often enough becomes the truth. ~Vladimir Lenin
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845


    << <i>I say NT, but photo is juiced. I've seen enough neon green to know when it looks a bit too radioactive. >>




    AYE MATEY ............. I bought it from Pat B. @ 1500$ ,

    the pix was his and I think he juices a tad wee bit on his photo's image
  • Do you have a pic of what it really looks like?
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    benlvr,

    that is the only pix i got .......... the colors are saturated , but are true to life

    it is impossible with the camera I have to get a true representation.



    and you can bet for me to lay out 1500 clams for it ( non fbl ) ; it's a stunning mind blower image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845

    did that feller say the green looked neon and juiced ?

    well here -I got rid of the green !




    imageimage
  • That 1951-D looks tasty image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    ........a neat "TrueView" pix of it posted on these boards would make the true Franklin lovers buckle at the knees image
  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750


    << <i>benlvr,

    that is the only pix i got .......... the colors are saturated , but are true to life

    it is impossible with the camera I have to get a true representation.



    and you can bet for me to lay out 1500 clams for it ( non fbl ) ; it's a stunning mind blower image >>



    I'd say it would have to be for that kinda money. How's the reverse look? Toned? White?
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    rev. is off white , with no tone ...........

    you see this kinda tone on a late date D mint once in a blue moon
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    This arrived today:

    image
    image
  • Looks like that might be a sweet 49-D, Devious! (But not the greatest pic)
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






    Best Franklin Website
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>Looks like that might be a sweet 49-D, Devious! (But not the greatest pic) >>



    Still working out the coin photo skills. Laugh.

    image

  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Cheaters shouldn't prosper.
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    that is a very broad and loaded statement ............
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    ......wow, this 51-D in orig. post is really something !


  • << <i>Looks like a piece of crap to me. Most I'd
    pay for it is $10.
    image >>




    if you can dish it out , you got to man up and take it back ..........

    This is one of the finest color PCGS MS-66 FBL Franklins on the planet

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