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Neat silver proof ike dollar counterstamp...

cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
I picked this up at the B&M, and thought I'd share. Anyone know anything about who made it? I've heard of counterstamped Ike and Peace dollars, but never a silver proof Ike! It looked like it may have been in some type of holder for a long time- it was covered in PVC. Here it is, post-acetone and dip...

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    SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    It looks like a Mel Wacks counterstamp.

    He is a member here and might chime in to confirm.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely looks similar...hopefully he'll post some info!
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A bump for the morning...
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a really neat counterstamp. I'm surprised the obverse of this coin wasn't flattened. Looks like it was counterstamped while it was still laying in the obverse die.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have never seen that one before.
    It is odd that the obverse is not distorted more.
    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The obverse is slightly distorted, where the edge of the counterstamp is. There is no affect on the design at all. I didn't think about it until you pointed it out, but that is really interesting. How'd they do that?
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    are you sure mel wacks is a member here?

    i'd bet anything that is one of his counterstamp designs. it is kind of aloof how many different ones
    are out there, check a forum search for a thread on that. there was some mention of a book coming out i believe.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,577 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The obverse is slightly distorted, where the edge of the counterstamp is. There is no affect on the design at all. I didn't think about it until you pointed it out, but that is really interesting. How'd they do that? >>



    Possibly the obverse was laying on a piece of thick leather to protect the obverse design from being flattened.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    There is a thread discussing Mel's counterstruck Ike's over on the Ike Group/Ike Club Forum as well:
    Link

    I will be emailing Mel tomorrow with any questions you may have regarding his counter struck designs. The more that are found, the more I wonder how the pops were affected.

    Aaron
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    SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭


    << <i>are you sure mel wacks is a member here?

    i'd bet anything that is one of his counterstamp designs. it is kind of aloof how many different ones
    are out there, check a forum search for a thread on that. there was some mention of a book coming out i believe. >>



    I am sure there is a member here claiming to be Mel Wacks. Check out the posts by numismel in the thread I reference.
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's outstanding.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
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    I am sure there is a member here claiming to be Mel Wacks. Check out the posts by numismel in the thread I reference

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    You're right. I'd even posted in that thread but guess it went on and i never looked back at it. Mel aint saying much is he, come on' mel out with it. how many of these are out there. image
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    SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am sure there is a member here claiming to be Mel Wacks. Check out the posts by numismel in the thread I reference

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    You're right. I'd even posted in that thread but guess it went on and i never looked back at it. Mel aint saying much is he, come on' mel out with it. how many of these are out there. image >>



    Four posts in eight years? I would agree with you.image
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    Hi,
    I am greatly honored with your interest in my counterstamps. Yes the Truman counterstamp is mine. I finally did some research and found 21 different counterstamps that I did from 1976-1984 plus some rare trial strikes, etc. I would like to publish these with pictures. Any idea who or where I can publish this information? Please send your ideas to my email address numismel@aol.com.
    Happy Collecting,
    Mel Wacks
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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,372 ✭✭✭✭
    thanks for sharing this pic cmerlo1 and thank you mel for posting your comments......you might want to check with member Dentuck (Dennis Tucker) at Whitman for publishing options

    (also there shouldnt be a period after the S in Harry S Truman, as "S" was in fact his middle name and did not stand for anything)

    www.brunkauctions.com

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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi,
    I am greatly honored with your interest in my counterstamps. Yes the Truman counterstamp is mine. I finally did some research and found 21 different counterstamps that I did from 1976-1984 plus some rare trial strikes, etc. I would like to publish these with pictures. Any idea who or where I can publish this information? Please send your ideas to my email address numismel@aol.com.
    Happy Collecting,
    Mel Wacks >>



    OMG!

    I love the way some of your coins have come out and try to gather as many as I can (when nobody is looking!) image

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    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting Mel... glad to see this post revived!

    Do you know how many of the Harry S Truman coins you made? Also, how did you counterstamp them, and keep the distortion to such a minimum?

    --Christian
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Mel,
    When are you going to publish the updated article we discussed?

    Roger

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