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BBCE group rip - 1972 OPC Baseball Series 2 wax box - ALL PAID - TIME TO RIP & SCAN

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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭
    Dont continue to delay Neenish! Im waiting here with my Paypal gun loaded!!!
  • Sorry for the delay guys. Payment just sent. I haven't been on these boards too much lately.

    Brian
  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW Got mine and ripped 1 pack. This was the best card I got. Sent it to PSA and got it back already. I will rip the other pack on Friday with everyone else. image
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    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just rescuing the thread from the depths so it's easy to find once guys start receiving their packages.


  • << <i>once guys start receiving their packages. >>



    Why are you so concerned about other guys' packages?
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are you so concerned about other guys' packages? >>



    Enjoy your 16 off centered commons Bill.


  • << <i>Enjoy your 16 off centered commons Bill. >>



    That's bad mojo.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    I hope you guys do better than I did the other day. I bought 2 packs and these are the best I received. I think the packs were searched. imageimage
  • Sweet Gibson with it's 50/50 centering.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice Karras SP insert!!
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice Karras SP insert!! >>



    You noticed the Retro Insert card. Even says 1/25 on the back.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Post 'em if you got 'em.
  • How are the 72's for rough cuts?Are they common like on late 70's OPC?
    Thanks
    Mike


  • << <i>Post 'em if you got 'em. >>



    I think everyone decided to get the packs graded, there will be no ripping image
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    I am about to hit the streets in search of Brown and shake his buggy til my box o' treasure falls out.
  • mkg809mkg809 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭
    c'mon guys, let's see some rough cuts!!!!!!
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  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭✭
    If the packs are at the Post Office I will be ripping tonight. Well at least one of the packs. I can see it now, a perfect PSA 10 Clemente.
    Bob
    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    The eagle has landed! Will post results shortly...
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's a checklist (scans to follow this evening):

    Pack 1:
    383 Brant Alyea
    265 Wes Parker
    475 Gary Nolan
    293 Danny Frisella
    391 Ken Sanders
    406 George Hendrick
    332 Buck Martinez
    451 Tony LaRussa
    322 Jose Pena

    Pack 2:
    312 Clay Carroll In Action
    386 Jim Colborn
    367 Ron Perranoski
    393 Curt Motton
    474 Baylor/Harrison/Oats Rookie
    335 Bill Hands
    514 Ted Sizemore
    374 Jack Heidemann
    429 Bob Robertson

    Centering is all over the place, but the gum is BAD BAD BAD! Top 3 cards are ruined by gum and stains. The Baylor/Oats RC has perfect centering and corners (at a glance). Overall, I'm satisfied. FUN RIP!! Just beware of the gum, the worst I've ever seen.
  • Jeff I'm not liking you right now and your living next door or something to BBCE.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's a cell phone pic of the carnage, I'll post scans later this evening when I get home:

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  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    Dang, that is some awesome looking gum. I hope you are happy with the rest of the cards.
  • Any stars at all in those stacks Jeff?
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    The Oates/Baylor is by far the best of the bunch. Looking through them again, that card is the ONLY card that's centered, and in my opinion it's exactly 50/50 T/B/L/R. The LaRussa wasn't bad centering, but it has this peeled back corner, like the top surface of the card was bent back. Everything else has 80/20 centering or worse.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How are the 72's for rough cuts?Are they common like on late 70's OPC?
    Thanks
    Mike >>



    Yes, but in my experiences with grading 1972 OPC, PSA has had a little leniency for the rough cut.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Rough cut edges isn't the word for it, lol.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's the Oates/Baylor (black mark is from the cell camera). With the edges, corners, and centering, this card has a fantastic chance at at least a 9:

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    Edit: My scanner will do them more justice
  • Sweet Baylor. A PSA 9 would cover your cost of the rip and grading fees.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sweet Baylor. A PSA 9 would cover your cost of the rip and grading fees. >>



    Well almost. The last 2 PSA 9's have sold for $41.10 and $40.01 respectively.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, the pure enjoyment of this rip was worth the $75 by itself, but PSA 9 Baylor wouldn't hurt! image
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I just realized I received 9 cards per pack, instead of 8.
  • I haven't sent any OPC's in for grading so I had a question about the rough cuts. Does PSA deduct becaus of the rough cuts or do they accept them?

    Brian
  • The grades on the 77 OPC's I have subbed weren't effected by the rough cut. I sent one that was horribly rough on one side but still got a 9. Probably only missed a 10 because of 95/5 cenering on the back. I have also subbed 1983-85 OPC and the rought cuts were all sent back as MC's. The smooth edged 80's OPCs got grades.
  • BBCEBBCE Posts: 111
    Hello everyone. You guys have organized four rips this week definately keeping us busy. I've just seen the results of the first '72 OPC pack rip and had a call from another member commenting on the gum damage. While "jeffcbay" is happy with a "fun rip", others might not be. So, if anyone out there wants to return the unopened packs for a refund or store credit, just blast us an email and we will take care of you.
    Thanks, Rick.
  • I think I will keep mine. I was expecting damage on at least the top and bottom card anyway.


  • << <i>Hello everyone. You guys have organized four rips this week definately keeping us busy. I've just seen the results of the first '72 OPC pack rip and had a call from another member commenting on the gum damage. While "jeffcbay" is happy with a "fun rip", others might not be. So, if anyone out there wants to return the unopened packs for a refund or store credit, just blast us an email and we will take care of you.
    Thanks, Rick. >>



    Wow. That's awesome of you Rick! That's why BBCE rocks!!

    Brian
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a cool offer Rick! That's why I hurried and posted my results, so I could maybe catch someone else before they opened theirs, so they could make an accurate decision on whether to rip or not. I'm still happy with my cards. I got one sub-able card, and three others that I'm subbing simply because only one card of each has ever been subbed. For pack collectors, I'd say they're worth keeping and maybe slabbing, but for rippers, I would think twice.

    Thank you for the cool experience Rick, you have a customer for life! image


  • << <i>

    << <i>Hello everyone. You guys have organized four rips this week definately keeping us busy. I've just seen the results of the first '72 OPC pack rip and had a call from another member commenting on the gum damage. While "jeffcbay" is happy with a "fun rip", others might not be. So, if anyone out there wants to return the unopened packs for a refund or store credit, just blast us an email and we will take care of you.
    Thanks, Rick. >>



    Wow. That's awesome of you Rick! That's why BBCE rocks!!

    Brian >>



    Very cool of you Rick.I am glad I wasn't the sacrifical lamb that discovered the gum damage.I may still open mike even so.
    Mike
  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭✭
    Exactly why BBCE is a class run organization. Thanks for looking out for us.
    Bob
    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • I will open one of mine and then decide whether to rip, grade or save the second pack.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    With both of my packs, the top 3. and the bottom card (wax) were toast. I've never seen the gum seep three cards deep. What would cause that? Damp storage?
  • Jeff if you were going to do it again would you rip or return?
    Mike
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The grades on the 77 OPC's I have subbed weren't effected by the rough cut. I sent one that was horribly rough on one side but still got a 9. Probably only missed a 10 because of 95/5 cenering on the back. I have also subbed 1983-85 OPC and the rought cuts were all sent back as MC's. The smooth edged 80's OPCs got grades. >>



    Same with the 72s I've sent in. I prefer the rough cut, no chance that the card has been cleaned up or sheet cut.
    image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hello everyone. You guys have organized four rips this week definately keeping us busy. I've just seen the results of the first '72 OPC pack rip and had a call from another member commenting on the gum damage. While "jeffcbay" is happy with a "fun rip", others might not be. So, if anyone out there wants to return the unopened packs for a refund or store credit, just blast us an email and we will take care of you.
    Thanks, Rick. >>



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    THAT level of service is why I tell new and old collectors that they should
    make BBCE their ONLY choice for unopened products.


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Probably return. I'm still satisfied, because this is the risk you take in opening 37 year old wax. The thrill alone is worth it to me. If I had it to do over again, I would have sent them back for something similar in age.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    that's first class service.

    I don't do much box/pack ripping, but all I will ever do will come from BBCE.


  • << <i>I will open one of mine and then decide whether to rip, grade or save the second pack. >>



    I think after seeing this I will just send my 2 packs into be graded... These will look good in graded pack collection!
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  • << <i>Probably return. I'm still satisfied, because this is the risk you take in opening 37 year old wax. The thrill alone is worth it to me. If I had it to do over again, I would have sent them back for something similar in age. >>



    The fiend in me still wants to rip them.
    Mike
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm so impatient, I had them shipped to work, and brought penny sleeves and CS1s to work with me! I have a problem... image
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    I now have a choice to make. My BBCE package did not arrive today, but a graded pack was delivered to my house. Do I remove it from it's tomb and rip it tonight and send one of my soon to be delivered packs to be graded or be patient and wait to rip both whence they arrive?
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