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  • << <i>I think it's completely retarded when players won't sign a particular card or write a particular inscription. E.g. - Art Monk won't sign his rc, Lynn Swann won't sign his Goal Line Art card, Joe Namath won't sign any insriptions... It makes no sense to me..

    Greg M. >>



    Can Joe still spell his name?
    1964 stand ups
    1975 mini's
    1954 Wilson Franks
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya know what $155 means to this guy? - Squat...he couldn't care less. Probably just does it because his agent tells him it's good for his overall business and endorsements to be seen out in the public now and then, other than the ball field. Another super rich prima donna sports "hero" who doesn't give a chit about the fans - What else is new?


  • << <i>Ya know what $155 means to this guy? - Squat...he couldn't care less. Probably just does it because his agent tells him it's good for his overall business and endorsements to be seen out in the public now and then, other than the ball field. Another super rich prima donna sports "hero" who doesn't give a chit about the fans - What else is new? >>



    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Ya know what $155 means to this guy? - Squat...he couldn't care less. Probably just does it because his agent tells him it's good for his overall business and endorsements to be seen out in the public now and then, other than the ball field. Another super rich prima donna sports "hero" who doesn't give a chit about the fans - What else is new? >>



    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i read that keith hernandez used to sign straws & razor blades for his coke dealers when he was low on $$$ and didn't have time to go to the atm....

    never can tell

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    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with.

    EDIT: to add/delete comments
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    << <i>Ya know what $155 means to this guy? - Squat...he couldn't care less. Probably just does it because his agent tells him it's good for his overall business and endorsements to be seen out in the public now and then, other than the ball field. Another super rich prima donna sports "hero" who doesn't give a chit about the fans - What else is new? >>



    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with. Geez....

    EDIT: to add comments >>



    Those good things he does, and that should be commended, has nothing to do with my comments, and I stand by those comments. When he signs those deals, he is fully aware that fans will be discontented with the fact that he "can't" sign other items - Doesn't matter to me what the reasons and excuses are, he's not signing those items and that's that - and that makes him exactly as I stated whether you want to accept that or not.

    It's all about the money isn't it, which in many cases is detrimental to the fans, and if you want to believe otherwise then that would be very naive.


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    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with. Geez....

    EDIT: to add comments >>



    Those good things he does, and that should be commended, has nothing to do with my comments, and I stand by those comments. When he signs those deals, he is fully aware that fans will be discontented with the fact that he "can't" sign other items - Doesn't matter to me what the reasons and excuses are, he's not signing those items and that's that - and that makes him exactly as I stated whether you want to accept that or not.

    It's all about the money isn't it, which in many cases is detrimental to the fans, and if you want to believe otherwise then that would be very naive. >>



    Do you get paid to do your job? Do you use your abilites to help hundreds/thousands of people who are not as fortunate as yourself? Until you do, I don't think you have a right to be critical of someone who uses what God has blessed him with, to help others in need.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with. Geez....

    EDIT: to add comments >>



    Those good things he does, and that should be commended, has nothing to do with my comments, and I stand by those comments. When he signs those deals, he is fully aware that fans will be discontented with the fact that he "can't" sign other items - Doesn't matter to me what the reasons and excuses are, he's not signing those items and that's that - and that makes him exactly as I stated whether you want to accept that or not.

    It's all about the money isn't it, which in many cases is detrimental to the fans, and if you want to believe otherwise then that would be very naive. >>



    Do you get paid to do your job? Do you use your abilites to help hundreds/thousands of people who are not as fortunate as yourself? Until you do, I don't think you have a right to be critical of someone who uses what God has blessed him with, to help others in need. >>



    I never stated he didn't have every right to do what he does to make the most money he can, and I've already stated that his other work should be commended so stop being redundant.. Unfortunately, as I've implied, that type of thinking about his "autograph deal" often results in detriment to the fans, and the detriment to the fans is obvious in that fans can't get his autograph on items they want autographed because...you paying attention...it's all about the money.

    Case closed.
  • you flamers are funny....

    Pujols doesnt set the price for the auto, the organization does! the money goes to them , not Pujols....

    the high price is made by them, trying to make the most out of having the Best AThlete in the world at their event...

    as far as the HGH...i wont even dignify that anymore with a coment....


    Pujols also did free ad campaigns for National Dental health month that will be airing this month...(he wasnt paid for this either)....he also held a nonalcoholic charity new years eve ball....

    if any of you have donated more time than Pujols i may listen to you.............not likely though unless your in the priesthood....
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>you flamers are funny....

    Pujols doesnt set the price for the auto, the organization does! the money goes to them , not Pujols....

    the high price is made by them, trying to make the most out of having the Best AThlete in the world at their event...

    as far as the HGH...i wont even dignify that anymore with a coment....


    Pujols also did free ad campaigns for National Dental health month that will be airing this month...(he wasnt paid for this either)....he also held a nonalcoholic charity new years eve ball....

    if any of you have donated more time than Pujols i may listen to you.............not likely though unless your in the priesthood.... >>



    That is very naive - I promise you that every move Pujols makes has to do with the money, one way or the other. He may be a nice guy, and he may do his charity work routine which again, again, again, should be commended...but it's all about the money to these guys including him. Sorry to have to tell it like it is, but that's the way it is in today's world of sports and especially it seems in MLB, and again, my focus on my comments is what it means to the fans, and it's to the detriment of the fans.


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    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with. Geez....

    EDIT: to add comments >>



    Those good things he does, and that should be commended, has nothing to do with my comments, and I stand by those comments. When he signs those deals, he is fully aware that fans will be discontented with the fact that he "can't" sign other items - Doesn't matter to me what the reasons and excuses are, he's not signing those items and that's that - and that makes him exactly as I stated whether you want to accept that or not.

    It's all about the money isn't it, which in many cases is detrimental to the fans, and if you want to believe otherwise then that would be very naive. >>



    Do you get paid to do your job? Do you use your abilites to help hundreds/thousands of people who are not as fortunate as yourself? Until you do, I don't think you have a right to be critical of someone who uses what God has blessed him with, to help others in need. >>



    I never stated he didn't have every right to do what he does to make the most money he can, and I've already stated that his other work should be commended so stop being redundant.. Unfortunately, as I've implied, that type of thinking about his "autograph deal" often results in detriment to the fans, and the detriment to the fans is obvious in that fans can't get his autograph on items they want autographed because...you paying attention...it's all about the money.

    Case closed. >>



    Apparently, you are not paying attention.

    1. The money Albert Pujols receives for autographs at charity events is not kept by him. It goes to The Pujols Family Foundation, or to whatever charity event he is attending. Be it The Millhouse facility, Cardinals Care(at the Cardinals Winter Warm Up), ect.. If only you knew what you were talking about before being so critical, surely you would not make some of your silly comments.

    2. Albert signed the deal with Upper Deck after he seen so many forgeries of his sig being sold on the internet. He said that by signing with Upper Deck, his fans would know what they are getting is 100% authentic if they buy it online. Once again, the proceeds of this contract have went to the foundation.

    3. Pujols DOES sign FREE autographs for fans at the ballpark.
  • stevek, thats your opinion which we all know is wrong many times....

    show me proof that Pujols is in it for the money.....

    you make yourself look like an ass by blindly putting down all athletes like that....its simly not true....
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭


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    +1 for mixing some wrestling into your post!
  • $155 seams like a pretty good deal to me.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Do you even know anything about the guy, before you spew your venom? Albert Pujols is one of the rare examples of a superstar MLB player that truly understands what his purpose in life is. His has a deep devotion to his faith, and the dedication to helping others with the resources that God has blessed him with, his family, and then baseball. As a person who has volunteered at different Pujols Family Foundation events over the last 2 years or so, I have to honestly say that Albert Pujols is a genuine person that truly cares. He's a really good hearted person(so is his wife), and what he does on a baseball field is pretty amazing, too.

    Before you make your next uneducated comment about Albert Pujols and what he cares for/or does not care about, please take the time and effort to read this link first:

    Pujols Family Foundation

    EDIT: fixed link >>



    Except when it comes to autographs, right? LOL >>



    Why must you be so ignorant to the facts?

    Albert donates his time for this event(he does not even have to do this), and the participants DO recieve a FREE autographed 8x10, and a t-shirt. A FREE autograph. That's pretty sweet, no matter what the autographed item is.

    I do know that Pujols signed rookie cards at the ball park as recent as 2006. After the 2006 World Series, he signed the Upper Deck contract, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with stipulations on what he specifically signs. I did notice the last 2 seasons at the ballpark Albert would tell fans he could not sign certain items, especially things like jerseys. Anyway... just because Albert does not sign certain items, it does not give some clown the right to pop off ignorant stuff, when it reality, it has been proven you don't know much about the guy to begin with.

    And besides, no matter what the reason may be for not signing rookie cards, ALL procedes do go to the Millhouse facility, so it's not like Albert is taking one dime away from this event to begin with. Geez....

    EDIT: to add comments >>



    Those good things he does, and that should be commended, has nothing to do with my comments, and I stand by those comments. When he signs those deals, he is fully aware that fans will be discontented with the fact that he "can't" sign other items - Doesn't matter to me what the reasons and excuses are, he's not signing those items and that's that - and that makes him exactly as I stated whether you want to accept that or not.

    It's all about the money isn't it, which in many cases is detrimental to the fans, and if you want to believe otherwise then that would be very naive. >>



    Do you get paid to do your job? Do you use your abilites to help hundreds/thousands of people who are not as fortunate as yourself? Until you do, I don't think you have a right to be critical of someone who uses what God has blessed him with, to help others in need. >>



    I never stated he didn't have every right to do what he does to make the most money he can, and I've already stated that his other work should be commended so stop being redundant.. Unfortunately, as I've implied, that type of thinking about his "autograph deal" often results in detriment to the fans, and the detriment to the fans is obvious in that fans can't get his autograph on items they want autographed because...you paying attention...it's all about the money.

    Case closed. >>



    Apparently, you are not paying attention.

    1. The money Albert Pujols receives for autographs at charity events is not kept by him. It goes to The Pujols Family Foundation, or to whatever charity event he is attending. Be it The Millhouse facility, Cardinals Care(at the Cardinals Winter Warm Up), ect.. If only you knew what you were talking about before being so critical, surely you would not make some of your silly comments.

    2. Albert signed the deal with Upper Deck after he seen so many forgeries of his sig being sold on the internet. He said that by signing with Upper Deck, his fans would know what they are getting is 100% authentic if they buy it online. Once again, the proceeds of this contract have went to the foundation.

    3. Pujols DOES sign FREE autographs for fans at the ballpark. >>



    Your #1 - That should be commended.

    Your #2 - I don't buy for a second that BS reason about the forgeries.

    Your #3 - Finally we agree, but more of that should be done.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>stevek, thats your opinion which we all know is wrong many times....

    show me proof that Pujols is in it for the money.....

    you make yourself look like an ass by blindly putting down all athletes like that....its simly not true.... >>




    No, you are being naive...I've already "proven" that he is in it for the money - you don't want to accept the proof. LOL


  • << <i>stevek, thats your opinion which we all know is wrong many times....

    show me proof that Pujols is in it for the money.....

    you make yourself look like an ass by blindly putting down all athletes like that....its simly not true.... >>



    Yep, I have to agree with ya.

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    Blind "sports hero worship" must be a wonderful thing? image
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    << <i>stevek, thats your opinion which we all know is wrong many times....

    show me proof that Pujols is in it for the money.....

    you make yourself look like an ass by blindly putting down all athletes like that....its simly not true.... >>




    No, you are being naive...I've already "proven" that he is in it for the money - you don't want to accept the proof. LOL >>



    Just in case ya missed it - signing that "autograph deal" means he's in it for the money which again is fine - You're buying that "lame" story about the forgeries as the reason he signed that deal? I imagine the door-to-door salesman selling overpriced junk love knocking on your door. LOL
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey just to be clear - I love sports and of course the game - but unlike a few here, I understand that professional sports is first and foremost all about the money, and basically it always has been, and everything else is a distant second to these sports stars - Pujols signing the autograph contract is proof of that...otherwise he'd do it for free. To the best of my knowledge Babe Ruth never charged to sign an autograph, and of course the Babe liked his money also, which we all do, but the Babe also understood that signing autographs and doing other things for the fans results in the game being more popular and helps all of MLB in return - Sadly, MLB and their players for a good part have long forgotten that.


  • << <i>Blind "sports hero worship" must be a wonderful thing? image >>



    Or how about it's more an admiration of the efforts the player puts out to help others, when he does not have to do anything? Albert could sit back and do nothing to help others, while enjoying the millions he makes each year off of his talents. Instead, he goes the extra mile, just like the humanitarian missions to the Dominican Republic each winter.

    There are always folks like yourself who enjoy being negative when people try to do good things to help others in need. People like you must be pretty miserable. That's unfortunate.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Or how about it's more an admiration of the efforts the player puts out to help others, when he does not have to do anything? Albert could sit back and do nothing to help others, while enjoying the millions he makes each year off of his talents. Instead, he goes the extra mile, just like the humanitarian missions to the Dominican Republic each winter.

    There are always folks like yourself who enjoy being negative when people try to do good things to help others in need. People like you must be pretty miserable. That's unfortunate. >>



    No, I'm doing quite well thank you, especially with my Eagles being in the playoffs and my Phillies just winning the World Series.

    I guess some people can't handle the truth. image
  • Here you go, stevek, since you obviously failed to read about the foundation, and just want to blindly criticize Albert Pujols.

    Just take 5 minutes that you will waste typing a negative reply, and read the link:

    Pujols signs with Upper Deck
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And actually your behavior about this "deal" whereby he can't sign other items, and accepting that as okay, only encourages them to be more reclusive and adds to the problem...at least me and enough others beithching about it might give them second thoughts about being more responsive to the fans who in the end game are the ones who determine their paycheck.


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    << <i>Blind "sports hero worship" must be a wonderful thing? image >>



    Or how about it's more an admiration of the efforts the player puts out to help others, when he does not have to do anything? Albert could sit back and do nothing to help others, while enjoying the millions he makes each year off of his talents. Instead, he goes the extra mile, just like the humanitarian missions to the Dominican Republic each winter.

    There are always folks like yourself who enjoy being negative when people try to do good things to help others in need. People like you must be pretty miserable. That's unfortunate. >>



    No, I'm doing quite well thank you, especially with my Eagles being in the playoffs and my Phillies just winning the World Series.

    I guess some people can't handle the truth. image >>



    The truth? Really? Oh you mean your negative nonsense?

    When you can help better thousands of lives on your dime, then get back to us about this theory pertaining to it's all about money.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here you go, stevek, since you obviously failed to read about the foundation, and just want to blindly criticize Albert Pujols.

    Just take 5 minutes that you will waste typing a negative reply, and read the link:

    Pujols signs with Upper Deck >>



    Nah - I gotta get back to work so I can pay for some Eagles items. image
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Reading this thread actually made me LIKE Pujols even more. I always admired him as an athlete, he truly is one of the greats, and we're lucky to get to see him play the game.


  • << <i>Reading this thread actually made me LIKE Pujols even more. I always admired him as an athlete, he truly is one of the greats, and we're lucky to get to see him play the game. >>



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  • The majority of people who have a job are in it for the money. All professional athletes are overpaid and I feel that is more detrimental to the fans than charging for an autograph. Those high salaries get passed on to the fans via higher ticket prices, concessions, and souvenirs. As STM stated, Pujols does sign for fans free of charge at the stadium, but honestly by the time the wife and I buy decent tickets/food/drinks we are well into the $250+ range and if you tack on the 3 hours worth of gas, hotel, and parking we are up to $450+. So really $155 for an autograph (if that is what we were after) is not all that bad. There are many people in this country making more money than Pujols that do not donate as much time/money as he does, the difference is that they are not in the public eye so we don't have the opportunity to scrutinize them like we do many public figures.
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  • ROCKDJRWROCKDJRW Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    Doesn't Pujols have like 40 rookie cards?? I doubt he sits around memorizing what each of his rookies look like. Slip him a Bowman Heritage rookie and he would probably just sign it and move on. He is probably doing it so people don't try and pass certain issues off as pack inserted signature cards.
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    I do not know a thing about Pujols. I truly hope he is as great as his supporters think. However, remember that just about every pro athlete has his own family foundation. As I am an estate planning attorney I set up family foundations for a lot of wealthy people and they are usually created NOT because of the love for the charity work... it's called tax benefits. That's fine but just remember that.

    Here's a snip it from another famous athlete's charity work,
    "______has not forgotten his roots and goes back to
    _______ on a regular basis to sponsor various basketball tournaments,
    provides scholarships for students, and regularly visits youth at community
    centers in low income areas. ______ recently formed a foundation, _________,
    which will give educational scholarships to children. He also
    donates to and sponsors events for Wheelchair Charities, Inc."

    He sure sounds like a great guy! Plus, I know he has a young child with medical problems. I guess we should all start saying what a great guy this person is!?

    You can learn more about this great guy at his website... Slow Loading Web Site Link
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the high price is made by them, trying to make the most out of having the Best AThlete in the world at their event... >>



    Wow! I didn't realize that Roman Sebrle was going to be there, too! Story

    Pujols didn't even make the top 10 "best athletes".
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    $155 must allow for the rif-raf to attend...


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remember that thread here about Johnny Bench signing a bat and then briefly "threatening" to take the bat if $50 wasn't paid for the autograph? Is there that much of a difference in that "behavior" with Pujols refusing to sign all those other cards for whatever conjured up reason? In my opinion it's both prima donna super rich athlete behavior to the detriment of the fans...only a matter of degree.

    Frankly, the behavior is distasteful, but I don't engage in the "hero worship" as some here do that their sports heros can do no wrong, and that's fine if you want to look at them that way - that's your prerogative. For me...I admire and appreciate their athletic talents on the field, and enjoy the competition and entertainment of sport. If Pujols is such a great guy then that's laudable and his fans should be proud of him, but to me the thing with the autographs, clearly shows that his priorities are first with making money, and a distant second to any fan consideration.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do not know a thing about Pujols. I truly hope he is as great as his supporters think. However, remember that just about every pro athlete has his own family foundation. As I am an estate planning attorney I set up family foundations for a lot of wealthy people and they are usually created NOT because of the love for the charity work... it's called tax benefits. That's fine but just remember that.

    Here's a snip it from another famous athlete's charity work,
    "______has not forgotten his roots and goes back to
    _______ on a regular basis to sponsor various basketball tournaments,
    provides scholarships for students, and regularly visits youth at community
    centers in low income areas. ______ recently formed a foundation, _________,
    which will give educational scholarships to children. He also
    donates to and sponsors events for Wheelchair Charities, Inc."

    He sure sounds like a great guy! Plus, I know he has a young child with medical problems. I guess we should all start saying what a great guy this person is!?

    You can learn more about this great guy at his website... Slow Loading Web Site Link >>



    Isn't he the guy who...oh never mind...I wouldn't want to upset any of his fans. LOL
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    If Pujols signed for everyone who asked, and for free, he would be a terrible ball player, because he would have carpal tunnel syndrome! You just can't sign for everyone all the time. I'm sure if you spent a day with him, or any other famous person like that, you would understand. As far as not signing a rookie card, who knows about that one, I believe the contract excuse.
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    the Best AThlete in the world at their event...

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    There is a dude named LeBron James that is a bit of an athlete himself.
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    the Best AThlete in the world at their event...

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    There is a dude named LeBron James that is a bit of an athlete himself. >>



    Yeah no offense to Albert but he is hardly the best athlete in the world.
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Wow, I wish my 2001 Upper Deck SP Case rip thread was as popular as this one. Some of y'all go on over there and buy a box so I can sell it out. image

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  • << <i>Wow, I wish my 2001 Upper Deck SP Case rip thread was as popular as this one. Some of y'all go on over there and buy a box so I can sell it out. image

    Mike >>



    Just say something about Albert not deserving the MVP for this past season or the gold glove in '06. Business will pick up.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If Pujols signed for everyone who asked, and for free, he would be a terrible ball player, because he would have carpal tunnel syndrome! You just can't sign for everyone all the time. I'm sure if you spent a day with him, or any other famous person like that, you would understand. As far as not signing a rookie card, who knows about that one, I believe the contract excuse. >>



    A friend of mine's father who is close to 90 years old, used to see Babe Ruth who often would take the trolley car to Shibe Park where the Philadelphia A's played. He has an astonishing collection of autographs, including many of Babe Ruth, museum worthy stuff, that are now kept in a bank vault, but he's told stories of how the Babe would sign autographs for basically every kid he could, right up until close to having to go to the ballpark for game time...so yea, I guess doing that made Babe a "terrible ball player" - how about quit making excuses for these overpaid, usually underperforming spoiled brat pampered super rich baseball ballplayers and tell it like it should be. I realize that the Babe era is over, but today's ballplayers and MLB should take a lesson from that as to a reason why MLB used to be the national pastime.


  • << <i>If Pujols signed for everyone who asked, and for free, he would be a terrible ball player, because he would have carpal tunnel syndrome! You just can't sign for everyone all the time. I'm sure if you spent a day with him, or any other famous person like that, you would understand. As far as not signing a rookie card, who knows about that one, I believe the contract excuse. >>



    I have heard that Cal Jr. has given over 1 million sigs during his life. Granted, I also know that Cal has had moments when he couldn't sign for everyone. I'm pretty sure I recall something along those lines in his book. If memory serves right he also said he felt bad about not being able to please his fans.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cal was probably first to come to mind about an "old school" player who realized what is good for the game which benefits all players and MLB in the long-run. And I'm not knocking a player who charges to sign at shows - but come on now...an exclusive contract to only sign certain cards...how is that beneficial to the game or the fans? Well it isn't.

    Look how "excited" Nam got in another thread when receiving a Gaylord Perry autograph TTM - I forget if Nam paid for it or not but I think it was free (not sure) - The excitement of getting a free autograph is still there for fans, especially for young fans, and I mean these super rich players ain't making enough friggin' money with endorsements, etc, they need to have a stinkin' contract to prevent them from signing other items. I mean are you kidding me? - Stop sticking up for this distasteful behavior and call it what it is - GREED.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    True, people do get excited when they get a free auto, but I bet 90% of the people in line are there so they can post their item on ebay that same night.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭
    the way i figure it your paying for it he should sign whatever you want. what is the difference to him.
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    << <i>True, people do get excited when they get a free auto, but I bet 90% of the people in line are there so they can post their item on ebay that same night. >>



    You're right, and it's a totally different era than many, many years ago. I imagine when my friend's dad got the Babe autographs, it wasn't worth more than a nickel to resell, if that - in fact up until only about 15 years ago he used to just store the autographs in a few shoeboxes in his closet - I can't even imagine the value they have today. I was fortunate to see and hold the autographed paper a number of times - he's got many multiple autographs of every big name you can think of. He was a fervent baseball fan then, and still is today - He loves his Phillies! image
  • Not condoning Albert's behavior at all. If the fan has to give their hard earned money for a sig then the fan should get the item of their choice (within reason) signed. It could be a contract thing or it could be an ego thing.

    As far as the praising goes I am sure that all of us are guilty of making our favorite personality infallible. However, I have learned that the modern day hero comes in a lot of forms. With that being said I'll be just as happy about a local volunteer coaching youth ball as I will Albert donating his time at the clinic. More power to him, but let's make sure that we celebrate the good of humanity regardless of the source.
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