1986 Topps is a great card. Here is a question: What is the toughest card to get a high grade on? From busting lots of racks, wax, etc, I would put the Bo Diaz as one of the worst cut cards ever!
Hey there...I have not tried really looking at all of the 86's that I have. The 9 I have is actually from my childhood collection...I didn't realize it was such a tough card at the time. I was just pulling out some HOFers I thought would grade well...
I thought I did pretty well a month ago picking up Ozzie Smith and Goose Gossage in PSA 10 for $20 each. I can't recall seeing them come up before. The Goose was a Pop 4 or 5 I think...
Busted a rack box of these last night. Man are these cards tough to find centered. I have a small stack of cards that are centered well and filled a 800 ct box with off center stuff. Got 2 nice Ripkens but most off the HOF/star cards were off center. Also the extra all star cards that come in the racks were all off center save one. I always liked those cards as a kid.
I have seen requests come up on these boards for obscure commons, and not a month later 4 Sharp will put it up on ebay. This leads me to speculate they check these boards once in awhile to get an idea of what people are looking for. I know it's happened to me before! Soooo... if *anyone* knows where I can get Armas #255, Barrett #734, Boyd #605 (someone beat me to the $35 one posted last month), Crawford #91, Gutierrez #633, Hoffman #38, Hurst #581, Kison #117, Lyons #233, McNamara #771, Miller #424, Sax #307... or even a Hawk Dawson in PSA 10... it would make my day
I opened a 86 waxbox today. I have several others and honestly I think I will leave them unopened. If I were to bust any more packs of these I think the rack packs look much better. I also think I want to get some more experience under my belt before getting into these.
How good does the black part of these have to be to get a 9 or 10?
Centering: A challenge not only left and right but also top to bottom.
Black Border: Chipping, no doubt. Also, the black can appear faded or mushy.
Surface: Plenty of issues with snow (George Bell) and fisheyes, red ink defects "splattered" over the surface. Not to mention blurry images and team names with out of focus printing.
If the set had 2-3 major HOF rookies in it, the set would get more attention. Still fun to rip open boxes of the stuff. Land a low pop beauty or HOF star in a 10 holder and you can really cash in.
<< <i>Here are the results from my recent submission. Cards were from rack boxes.
5 1 19677529 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 329 KIRBY PUCKETT Card 6 1 19677530 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card 7 1 19677531 MINT 9 OC 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card (?) 8 1 19677532 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 714 GEORGE BRETT Card 9 1 19677533 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card 9 2 19677534 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card 10 1 19677535 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 206 PETE ROSE Card 11 1 19677536 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 180 DON MATTINGLY Card 12 1 19677537 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card 12 2 19677538 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
Not bad, always happy with 9s, although a 10 would have been nice. >>
Nice grades on the star cards.................very under rated set.........Like the 1971 set , this is going to be a tough set to garner 10's out of ! Robbie
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I subbed a dozen or so 86's and did not get one 10. Plenty of 10's in every other year and make, but 86 Topps got the hammer.
I am going to crack and resub a couple that I just cannot see where the card deserved an 8.
Andre Dawson 8 Bo Diaz 8 Ryne Sandberg 3 8's Tom Waddell 8 Nolan Ryan 9 John Russell 9 Ripken 9 Ozzie Guillen 9
The Sandberg is a crazy card to get in high grade. I have busted mindless numbers of 86 to get a 10. I have subbed close to a dozen, maxing out at an 8. I just had to sub this beauty for fun, enjoy.....this is how many look fresh from wax, and there's no qualifiers!!!!:
Back featuring a nice gum stain:
On a very happy note, I did land this card in a 10 via a trade. It's a pop 1 and is my favorite card in the collection:
I would say yes....assuming you are talking about Nolan Ryan. There are a decent amount of 10's out there, not hundreds mind you, but enough to command a $250 price tag on ebay.
As for Ryno, he and 86 Topps do not get along very well. I am unfamiliar with the printing process, but why does his card so frequently have red blotches and print defects?
I agree with some of the other posters here that the 1986 Topps set is pretty cool, and likely to be one that is considered "tough" for the highest grades in the future. It's by no means rare, or even scarce, or even remotely tough to find, but there are alot of cards that have flaws in that set - many from printing, etc. but it was also a set that was heavily collected by kids at the time, etc. and 1986 was alot different from 1989 for example where even kids were buying cards and immediately putting them into sleeves, etc.
JJacks
Always buying music cards of artists I like! PSA or raw! Esp want PSA 10s 1991 Musicards Marx, Elton, Bryan Adams, etc. And 92/93 Country Gold AJ, Clint Black, Tim McGraw PSA 10s
I'm about to bust a 6box rak case over the next week or so. Obviously I'll have my eyes open for gems, but let me know if anyone has any needs so I can keep my eyes open for you.
I saw this thread yesterday and thought I would rip a wax box to see if I could find anything to give away here. In general when I rip boxes like this one, I only look at cards I would want in a 10, but I looked at every single card this time. 36 packs and there was nothing even close to a 10. I was pretty surprised and didn't totally understand why this would be such a tough set. I still like ripping those boxes, so I'll keep an eye out, but good luck to all of you giving this a go.
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I just bought 4 packs out of a vending machine at the grocery store and hit a mattingly and Henderson all-star as well as an Ozzie base and all-star - what a rush!
I've been buying 1986 Topps rak-paks at an astronomical rate as of late. I must have close to 4 cases of this stuff. Haven't ripped a single pack as of yet. I will sometime in the near future hit this set with hurricane force winds!
I opened about 1/3 of the box last night and will finish this am. This looks like one of the best boxes I've ripped conditionwise. Hoping for that GEM Ryno.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
If either of you rack-pak rippers would like my want list, I'm settling on 9's to wrap up a couple of sets until 10's come along (HOF run and Red Sox) Let me know and I'll put them together.
really? +2k? Good for the seller. I will say it's a difficult card to obtain in MINT, let alone GEM. I've ripped several 86 racks trying to hit this one, but I don't recall ever having anything above an 8.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
I have a VERY nice raw set. I split a vending case with a friend in 1986, and put the best set in a binder. I still have all the cards. I do not see any point in having any of them graded. I will, though, go back and look at my Sandberg.
Dang....I actually have the Guerrero in an 8...was obviously shooting for a 9 or 10. If you want it as a place holder until you can find a 9...I'd send it to you for $5 shipped.
Centering: Bad L/R Corners: Both left side are aweful Edge: Left side in the black is aweful
My 8 looks MUCH better. I would be embarrassed to list this card and embarrassed to allow it in the case by P S A. Please don't give me the old, "Graders are human and sometimes this happens".
I hear you on the Dawson. I've had trouble there as well and the best I've uncovered is an 8. Putting together Basic Topps and 86 HOF set, so I could use a nice one.
Hey fellas...going to be putting some relatively tough 86 graded commons over on the BST side later today. Some nice PSA 8 "placeholders" and some 9's that people may need for their sets. Please let me know if the prices are out of whack in any way. There is some lower pop stuff on here so I'm not totally sure on pricing.
I landed a 1986 Topps PSA 9 Mint Bo Diaz in my latest sub. This card is pure insanity as the cuts are just all over the place. POP 1 in a 9 with no 10's.
Also landed a Sandberg Tiffany in a 10 for the PC.
Adam, I will check my supply of Ray Miller. Anybody else get cards back from PSA with 1986 Topps?
I landed a 10 in Brett and Ripken with 9s of Ryno, Ripken, and a coupe of others. I hit a decent rack box. More at PSA now, but no Ryan's or other Rynos above an 8.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Comments
I am looking for a Ryne Sandberg is PSA 9 if anyone has a spare.
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1986 Topps is a great card. Here is a question: What is the toughest card to get a high grade on? From busting lots of racks, wax, etc, I would put the Bo Diaz as one of the worst cut cards ever!
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
<< <i>I'd love to have a PSA 10 Topps 1986 Brad Wellman (in case anybody has one). >>
And I snagged one today, from 4 Sharp Corners. Pop 2! Can't wait to get my hands on it...
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<< <i>I'd love to have a PSA 10 Topps 1986 Brad Wellman (in case anybody has one). >>
And I snagged one today, from 4 Sharp Corners. Pop 2! Can't wait to get my hands on it... >>
They must stalk these boards. Congrats on your pickup.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Stooge
jamesgotpoorman
calaban7
ddfamf
theczar
ShootyBabitt
hoopguru33
Always looking for:
1960-present Topps Red Sox in PSA 9+
Topps All-Star Rookies in PSA 9+
Dennis Eckersley PSA 10's
Stooge
jamesgotpoorman
calaban7
ddfamf
theczar
ShootyBabitt
hoopguru33
Always looking for:
1960-present Topps Red Sox in PSA 9+
Topps All-Star Rookies in PSA 9+
Dennis Eckersley PSA 10's
How good does the black part of these have to be to get a 9 or 10?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
1. Gary Carter
2. Pedro Guerrero
3. Dave Winfield
Thanks...
Erik
Centering: A challenge not only left and right but also top to bottom.
Black Border: Chipping, no doubt. Also, the black can appear faded or mushy.
Surface: Plenty of issues with snow (George Bell) and fisheyes, red ink defects "splattered" over the surface. Not to mention blurry images and team names with out of focus printing.
If the set had 2-3 major HOF rookies in it, the set would get more attention. Still fun to rip open boxes of the stuff. Land a low pop beauty or HOF star in a 10 holder and you can really cash in.
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
5 1 19677529 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 329 KIRBY PUCKETT Card
6 1 19677530 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card
7 1 19677531 MINT 9 OC 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card (?)
8 1 19677532 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 714 GEORGE BRETT Card
9 1 19677533 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card
9 2 19677534 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card
10 1 19677535 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 206 PETE ROSE Card
11 1 19677536 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 180 DON MATTINGLY Card
12 1 19677537 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card
12 2 19677538 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
Not bad, always happy with 9s, although a 10 would have been nice.
<< <i>Here are the results from my recent submission. Cards were from rack boxes.
5 1 19677529 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 329 KIRBY PUCKETT Card
6 1 19677530 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card
7 1 19677531 MINT 9 OC 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card (?)
8 1 19677532 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 714 GEORGE BRETT Card
9 1 19677533 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card
9 2 19677534 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 10 TONY GWYNN Card
10 1 19677535 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 206 PETE ROSE Card
11 1 19677536 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 180 DON MATTINGLY Card
12 1 19677537 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card
12 2 19677538 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
Not bad, always happy with 9s, although a 10 would have been nice. >>
Nice grades on the star cards.................very under rated set.........Like the 1971 set , this is going to be a tough set to garner 10's out of !
Robbie
1963 Fleer
Lou Brock Master Set
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
86 PSA 9's and 10's
I am going to crack and resub a couple that I just cannot see where the card deserved an 8.
Andre Dawson 8
Bo Diaz 8
Ryne Sandberg 3 8's
Tom Waddell 8
Nolan Ryan 9
John Russell 9
Ripken 9
Ozzie Guillen 9
The Sandberg is a crazy card to get in high grade. I have busted mindless numbers of 86 to get a 10. I have subbed close to a dozen, maxing out at an 8. I just had to sub this beauty for fun, enjoy.....this is how many look fresh from wax, and there's no qualifiers!!!!:
Back featuring a nice gum stain:
On a very happy note, I did land this card in a 10 via a trade. It's a pop 1 and is my favorite card in the collection:
Mike
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
As for Ryno, he and 86 Topps do not get along very well. I am unfamiliar with the printing process, but why does his card so frequently have red blotches and print defects?
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
I agree with some of the other posters here that the 1986 Topps set is pretty cool, and likely to be one that is considered "tough" for the highest grades in the future. It's by no means rare, or even scarce, or even remotely tough to find, but there are alot of cards that have flaws in that set - many from printing, etc. but it was also a set that was heavily collected by kids at the time, etc. and 1986 was alot different from 1989 for example where even kids were buying cards and immediately putting them into sleeves, etc.
JJacks
Jbox
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Stooge
jamesgotpoorman
calaban7
ddfamf
theczar
ShootyBabitt
hoopguru33
Always looking for:
1960-present Topps Red Sox in PSA 9+
Topps All-Star Rookies in PSA 9+
Dennis Eckersley PSA 10's
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
1986 Topps Sandberg PSA 10
Anybody here win it?
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
I was hoping for the Stain Qualifier, but PSA missed it upon inspection:
She's a beaut!
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<< <i>Well, this got nuts:
1986 Topps Sandberg PSA 10
Is it just me or is there a big and easy to notice stain on the back of that card?
Margaret Thatcher
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
I also have for sale or trade:
#88 Tom Waddell PSA 8
#254 Ozzie Guillen PSA 9
#392 John Russell PSA 9
#690 Ryne Sandberg PSA 8
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
#706 Pedro Guerrero
PM me if you have or know where I can find these...Thx
EDITED TO ADD: Thx GB5HOF for this one -- I'd like to upgrade it to a 9 or 10 but this is the perfect place holder...
Erik
PSA 9 1986 Topps Dawson
Centering: Bad L/R
Corners: Both left side are aweful
Edge: Left side in the black is aweful
My 8 looks MUCH better. I would be embarrassed to list this card and embarrassed to allow it in the case by P S A. Please don't give me the old, "Graders are human and sometimes this happens".
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
Stooge
jamesgotpoorman
calaban7
ddfamf
theczar
ShootyBabitt
hoopguru33
Always looking for:
1960-present Topps Red Sox in PSA 9+
Topps All-Star Rookies in PSA 9+
Dennis Eckersley PSA 10's
If anyone could help me out, please send me a PM. Thanks a lot!
Adam
I landed a 1986 Topps PSA 9 Mint Bo Diaz in my latest sub. This card is pure insanity as the cuts are just all over the place. POP 1 in a 9 with no 10's.
Also landed a Sandberg Tiffany in a 10 for the PC.
Adam, I will check my supply of Ray Miller. Anybody else get cards back from PSA with 1986 Topps?
My #2 Ranked Michael Jordan PSA Basic Set
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06