I think it's time for a PO box....

Peaceman

In the last 3 months the post office has lost over $ 10,000 worth of items shipped away or to my home.... Here's the last box that came which should have had a 100oz sivler bar in it... I of course refused the package... it was insured... but this is getting RRRRRRRRRRRRRediculous..

adamlaneus

Problem is, you don't know where this is happening in the system. A PO box might solve nothing.

Peaceman

Well, if it's happening NEAR me... and they equate coins/bullion it to my name... then well it would help then wouldn't it....

adamlaneus

Agreed. Mail theft is maddening.

(Reheated morning coffee = negative attitude. Solution = Fresh coffee.)

darktone

have things sent registered so someone is accountable.

Peaceman

I sent a $ 7800 "registered" package to Calf which never made it... I cant even get the post office to cooperate with me to tell me where it was lost in the process... who signed for it or who lost their job.... "Registered" to me at least... means nothing anymore... "INSURED" means everything...

IrishMike

Here is what I had to do after 3 packages came up missing in an 8 month period. Two were Birthday gifts and one was mail order prescription drugs. The drugs alone were worth over 1K and the drug company doesn't even bar code its bags let alone send requiring a signature. I went to the Post Office and requested that they deliver NO packages, instead they leave a notice in your mail box to go pick them up. It saves the cost of a Post Office Box. Either my neighbor is stealing, which is what I suspect or someone at the Post Office. The drug company accused me of reselling the drugs, yeah right niaspan and blood pressure meds, there is such a huge demand for them. The wanted to me wait 30 days, I suggested since they were heart medications that wouldn't be a good idea and might engender a law suit for my widow.

Peaceman

Geez... sorry to hear that.. Right now, the way in which I've had a loss, I dont see anyone stealing them from me once they are in my box. If they look for my last name on any box... I'm thinking I can reduce the probability a little on my end with a PO box... I'm at around 7 items lost now in about 3-5 months...

19Lyds

Any folks that are having continued problems with receiving USPS parcels or mail must go to their local post offices and report your problems and concerns immediately so that the appropriate investigations can be conducted! There are official procedures and the USPS does have investigative teams to address these problems.

If you don't report these problems they will never get addressed and having a PO Box will not change anything except for eliminating your specific carrier as the possible problem. I've dealt with my local Post Offices for years and have always been met with courteous responses.

If you are in the business of buying or selling coins, your mail carrier should be your absolute best friend! I make a point of knowing who my carriers are on a first name basis regardless of where I live. Saturdays are a good time to meet them as your mail is getting delivered. I also make a point of getting to know the clerks at my local PO so that they know who I am. That way, when I speak to them about a problem, I'm not just some nobody coming in to whine or complain. There's a face to go with the name and a person behind that face.

If they know you and you are pleasant wth them, they will work with you.

CB2597

I too was forced to get a PO Box in another state. Fortunately for me its in a state i go to work everyday.

HighRelief

<< <i> I'm at around 7 items lost now in about 3-5 months... >>



I would put your new PO Box under some other name and use registered insured for the higher ticket items. Looks like someone has your number for sure.

drwstr123

I'm not minimizing yor loss, but it looks like improper packaging added to the situation. Shifting of that glob of metal can blow through cardboard.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>In the last 3 months the post office has lost over $ 10,000 worth of items shipped away or to my home.... Here's the last box that came which should have had a 100oz sivler bar in it... I of course refused the package... it was insured... but this is getting RRRRRRRRRRRRRediculous..
>>



So why wouldn't the USPS verify the contents in your presence before letting you accept it? Since the package was out of your control, why should you be stuck with the risk?

BAJJERFAN

If twas me I would get the PO box from another branch or in the next nearest town. Methinks the crooks are at your local facility so getting the box there aint gaining you anything.

cuzzx

I have a PO Box and so far have received everything shipped to me. I did have one package shipped to me with three Ike's. The package was tore up on one end but the coins were there. I don't now how they made it as the hole end was ripped apart.

notwilight

I'd say the most likely cause of this one is the seller didn't package it well. Just throwing a 100 oz bar into a big box like that is not gonna work. --Jerry

SilverEagles92

<< <i>I'd say the most likely cause of this one is the seller didn't package it well. Just throwing a 100 oz bar into a big box like that is not gonna work. --Jerry >>



+1

erroid

I have had a PO box since I started buying-selling on eBay; just another "line of defence". That, and I don't like "stuff" coming to the house.... Box prices have gone up recently(last year), and it'll be $94/yr for a small one, but it's worth every cent to me.

notwilight

I use a private mailbox because it's much more convenient than a PO box. Either will serve the purpose I use them for: Keep my home address seperate from any high value deal. --jerry

Coll3ctor

<< <i>

<< <i>I'd say the most likely cause of this one is the seller didn't package it well. Just throwing a 100 oz bar into a big box like that is not gonna work. --Jerry >>



+1 >>





+2

EvilEmpire

I agree with Bajjerfan......if the problem exists on BOTH incoming AND outgoing, its at your local PO, plain and simple. Someone must have seen a package for you with a return address of a coin company (or saw one you SENT to a coin company, if you have...but most probably, one you received). Thusly, they got smart and figured any PACKAGES from you or to you has valuable coins in it, as I would think the average carrier, in my area at least, wouldn't think about PM's. It's happened to me before, on a consistent basis....but ONLY after the regular carrier I made friends with got changed to another route, as someone with more seniority wanted it, and he turned out to be the WORST, LAZIEST I have ever dealt with (as 19Lyds suggests, befriending your letter carrier IS a huge benefit... when your carrier looks out for your stuff, it's priceless....compensating him every now and again helps immensely, such as tix to a ballgame, a 30 pack of his fave brew, etc). It got so bad, I called the USPS in Washington, DC. You should see how fast improvements are made when your local postmaster gets a call and visit, due to 'lost' valuables, from 'the home office'.

OnlyGoldIsMoney

I suggest getting the P.O. Box. At least you eliminate two possibilities - your mail carrier and you neighbor(s). So far I have had no problems receiving coins at my P.O. Box. The small Post Office I deal with may be a factor - 3 clerks and 4 carriers and I know them all by name.

Frankcoins

Urgently imperative to never use a home address on any transaction.

In many cities you can type your address and zip code here

http://maps.google.com/

and see a recent photo on your home (click on street view)

edix2001

<< <i>I suggest getting the P.O. Box. At least you eliminate two possibilities - your mail carrier and you neighbor(s). So far I have had no problems receiving coins at my P.O. Box. The small Post Office I deal with may be a factor - 3 clerks and 4 carriers and I know them all by name. >>



Getting your mail sent to a PO Box also limits the amount of travel that your mail takes prior to reaching you, thus (theoretically) lessening the odds that it will get lost, stolen or damaged along the way. And it limits the chain of custody from post office to post office.
$40/year for a small box regularly checked is a small price for peace of mind.
I know my clerks well. I exchange presidential dollars with them for folding money on the first day of issue every 3 months.

Peaceman

I've have a great mailcarrier for 15 years... Know him by name and even have conversations with him on a weekly basis (I'm home all the time - at home business). This mailcarier was different but I'm not blaming her... and yes, it may have issues with wrapping.....

Lee, it doesn't sound like you have had many issues with packages nor have an understanding of the FULL process of a claim (which I've gone through many times... you?). Yes, The P.O people are nice... they know me by first name.. but they are not helpful... even the higher ups aren't... Try buying $ 5000 worth of coins.... putting them on a credit card (because I'm far from being rich)... only to have the PO lose your package and then refund you 4 months later.... In the meantime, refund the $ you got from the seller and paid finance charges on $5g for 4 months.... Lets see what kind of happy mood you are in... please... elaborate on your losses and curtious post office...

CertifiedGoldCoins

Mail thief in action.

notwilight

<< <i>Urgently imperative to never use a home address on any transaction. In many cities you can type your address and zip code here http://maps.google.com/ and see a recent photo on your home (click on street view) >>



Amazingly recent and accurate photo of my house and the entire cul-de-sac. OTOH, if you type in my mailing address, you get a strip mall and a Boston Market. --Jerry

timber100

Sorry for your problems Iwas wondering have you been refunded for your various losses and how hard has it been to receive the insurance payments due you? Also, you may want to edit your picture as some crooks lurking on this site (if there are any) may be able to get your home address from the picture you posted.

Type2

You need to report this to the post master A.S.A.P.

cinman14

<< <i>Try buying $ 5000 worth of coins.... putting them on a credit card (because I'm far from being rich)... only to have the PO lose your package and then refund you 4 months later.... In the meantime, refund the $ you got from the seller and paid finance charges on $5g for 4 months.... Lets see what kind of happy mood you are in... please... elaborate on your losses and curtious post office... >>



I would have filed a claim with my CC company long before 4 months had passed... I might be wrong but once you start a claim the finance charges stop until it is resolved..

fcloud

I was lucky enough to be able to tour an USPS sort facility. You should see the way some people package stuff. I would think the box tore open all on its own. The bar might even still be at the sort location as they have an entire area dedicated to fixing stuff that people just dump in a box. The day I was on the tour a box of rocks broke open and they were cleaning the mess up and repackaging for delivery. A box of rocks in a priority box without any other packing sure is an interesting way to pack things.

Talk to the people at the post office and file a claim. Let the investigators figure it out--they take these things very seriously.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>In the last 3 months the post office has lost over $ 10,000 worth of items shipped away or to my home.... Here's the last box that came which should have had a 100oz sivler bar in it... I of course refused the package... it was insured... but this is getting RRRRRRRRRRRRRediculous..
>>



Was the box empty or was the bar still in it?

JBTurner

- Valuable items should be sent USPS Express Mail (which is the only USPS service than can be tracked).

- Items should be insured.


- Items should be well packed.


- PO Box is a good idea.


- Be carefull when doing chargebacks on CC. If chargeback is successfull you will still be in debt to the entity you did buisness with and that debt can be reported to credit agencies.

cinman14

<< <i>- Valuable items should be sent USPS Express Mail (which is the only USPS service than can be tracked).

- Items should be insured.


- Items should be well packed.


- PO Box is a good idea.

- Be carefull when doing chargebacks on CC. If chargeback is successfull you will still be in debt to the entity you did buisness with and that debt can be reported to credit agencies. >>



And you can dispute the hit on your credit report as well.. If you have the supporting documents that what was charged
and later reversed was a legit claim. The hit will most likely be stricken from your report.

If it came from an individual. The likely hood of an individual having the means to report anything to a credit agency
is remote...

lathmach

Wait a minute Peaceman........................
You're losing packages right along, you say?
Okay, have some friends and relatives mail you packages with high insurance on them.
They should contain things like bricks or dog sh!t.
When a package come up missing, file an insurance claim.
You gotta chance to make a buck here, don't screw it up.
It'll really tick off the thieving mail man, as well.

Ray