Pop Weaver Still Sucks but I have a new job!!!

Morgoth

I have been looking for a new job for 1.5 years and finally found a good fit I think. I will know sometime next week. I work in the food industry and already have turned down Coca Cola and Cadbury due to life and work conflicts. I now have an opportunity to be the 2nd scientist hired for the new R&D center for Pop Weaver popcorn. They also make all the confectionaries for the Boy Scouts under the Trailsend brand. Really excited and have went through 3 interviews already and will need to meet the president to seal the deal.

What makes this so exciting is that its 30 minutes from where I live right now so my wife wouldn't have to quit and they have a 2.5 million dollar R&D budget for 2009. My budget is 0$, I have to beg for every dollar I spend.

Anyone like popcorn, I might be able to hook you up soon

ldferg

good luck. i hope it works out for you and your family.

rube26105

i remember them well, trailsend , and jiffy pop, case they had card in em sometime
my kid sold thier popcorn when he was in boy scouts years ago,hope ya get it

Dboneesq

Morg,

Hope it works out well for ya!

If you get the job, I say we get about 20 LARGE cartons, pop a bunch of popcorn and send one carton per day to ERINSTUBBY!

Stay Healthy !

Doug

fattymacs

My business is now dominated by my food service accounts, automotive has tanked.

nam812

You're a scientist?

gregm13

No - but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

Sorry - I couldn't help myself

Greg M.

jimrad

Jason,

here's wishing you

Morgoth

Hey thanks for the well wishes.

nam, yes I am. I think I have said that in other threads. I do work in the food industry developing new products, processes and technology. Most of my work recently has been in waste management and recovery. Not a tree hugger but there is cost benefits of reusing waste streams. My passion is research though and I will be able to get my nerd on in this job. I also am training to be a culinologist which is a scientist with a culinary degree as well.

benderbroeth

count me in as a huge huge popcorn lover!!!!!!!!!

Morgoth

UPDATE:

Well I made it to the final 2. Had to come back for a 4th interview last Thursday at the main production facility. Thought it went ok, not great, not alot of questions exept the standard why should we hire you type. I talk to my potential boss on the weekend. Thought that was a good sign.

Find out today I didn't get the job. Then the recruiter says the reason and I almost hit the floor.

I didn't get the job due to the fact that I uttered a cuss word (to be exact, when I was shown a really cool piece of equipment I said "Damn, that is really cool) and he felt that showed I had a character flaw and wouldn't fit in with the culture and values of the company. I was the better candidate of the two and had a much better background and experience but I would clash with their core values.

During the interview it was stressed to me how Christian my boss is and he quoted me scripture during the interview and said he would ask god's guidence to make his choice and whaterver choice he made would be with god's hand.

I already work for a boss who isn't a trained scientist, this guy isn't either, and she makes decisions based on voodoo and gut feeling over science and statistics (marketing guys drive science guys nuts) so I am glad I found out this guy may be even more of crackpot than she is.

I have talked with my network of scientist friends and not one can believe it or ever heard that being used as a reason. My friend the HR manager said you could probably get a religion discrimination lawsuit if you wanted, but that isn't the point. I felt I wasted a ton of my time to get rejected for a stupid reason and I am pretty sure not the real reason (based on their pay scale I would have been already at the very top based on my requested salary demand).

DavidPuddy

<< <i>During the interview it was stressed to me how Christian my boss is and he quoted me scripture during the interview and said he would ask god's guidence to make his choice and whaterver choice he made would be with god's hand. >>



WOW.

Mphilking

Good luck!

bman90278

Congrats, that is fantastic news. I truly hope you get the job. Good luck to you.
brian

Davemri

Do you live in Indiana?

Never mind..I looked at your profile for the answer. I live about hour 15 mins south of Van Buren. I had a brother inlaw and father inlaw work for Weaver.

Sorry to hear about younot getting the gig....

Dave

JackWESQ

Dear Morgoth,

I do not believe I've had the pleasure, but I certainly wish you all my bests. I'm a bit indifferent to popcorn. But my wife loves it. Ever hear of/tried Garrett Popcorn? Certainly good stuff.

/s/ JackWESQ

CDsNuts

I'm pretty sure it was for the best that you didn't get that job.

jimrad

Damn, that sucks

WinPitcher

Morgoth

Congrats and popcorn does really well around here.

Steve

Dboneesq

I would write a letter to the "decision maker" and ask him why you did not get the job. Include why you think you were the right person for the position and why YOU think you did not get the position ($$$$). Wait for his reply. If you do not hear back within one month I would call his office and ask to speak with him directly.

What happened to you REALLY SUCKS, if, indeed, you were not hired because you said D_A_M_N.

tennesseebanker

I wish I could find another job

mickeymantle24

me too. I was suppose to go to work today. They called me last night and said they did not need me today.

tennesseebanker

What stinks about my job is that it is all political. If you "know" the right person or you are related to the right person you can be put directly into a management role.
I have worked for a couple of other places like that, but this one is the worst. They are some very incompetent people in our management chain.

SidePocket

I would send the man a letter thanking him for his time and complimenting him on his company. No point in burning any bridges. I wish we had more Christians where I work, although it does seem this man took it to an extreme and didn't apply all the scripture he could have. Good luck with the continued job search.

Morgoth

Oh I agree Lee it's for the best but man that reason is so hokey I can't even tell my friends and family without them thinking I am lying or kidding around.

I don't mind the christian attitude but when you use it as a reason (values guys is a code word) not to hire it's discrimination and considering I didn't wear my Cannible Corpse shirt to the interview or quoted Anton Levay I don't see how the word damn used in exhuberence over their very cool machinery would classify me as having low values.

lawnmowerman

I don't like popcorn

baseballfan

good luck with that!!

perhaps it happened for a reason

BassPro77

sorry about the bad news.

i could of used some popcorn today watching the inauguration celebration.

good luck

otwcards

Just for you, Jason, I will boycot popcorn and church for the rest of the year.

ArchStanton

Damn, that sucks. Girlscout cookies are way better anyway.

I'm sure you will find something that better suits you.

Morgoth

Thanks, I am in no real need of moving on, just looking for better opportunities if the come along. I have been looking almost 2 years and turned down Coke and Cadbury Schweppes already. For some reason my resume looks really good to beverage companies even though I haven't made a beverage in 11 years.

Stingray

Popcorn is my all-time favorite snack. As a matter of fact we have some of the Boy Scouts kettle corn in the pantry right now.

Ironmanfan

<< <i> I also am training to be a culinologist . >>

smet

<< <i>Just for you, Jason, I will boycot popcorn and church for the rest of the year. >>



I'm quitting church and popcorn too.

Darin

Damn isn't even a decent cuss word.
I have nothing against religion, but hate those 'holier than thou' attitudes like that.
Sorry it worked out that way for you.

TheHun

Morgoth -

I think you should start your own food company - that inserts baseball cards into the product.

i'm sure you'd have a few customers here !

cheers

"HOPE spring a kernel" - Denny Crane

prscott933

if they're not going to hire you for saying a single word... think of all the other nightmares that may exist there. you're probably better off not getting an offer.

billwaltonsbeard

I wonder if they would hire a guy like Jim Dyck

Boopotts

<< <i>Just for you, Jason, I will boycot popcorn and church for the rest of the year. >>



Me too. It's going to take every ounce of willpower I have, but as a showing of CU solidarity I'll do everything in my worldly power to try and avoid church for the next 11 months. It's going to be touch and go around Easter, but hopefully I can persevere.

CDsNuts

Jesus Boo, that means you're going to miss the spring bake sale. It's not worth it.

otwcards

<< <i>

<< <i>Just for you, Jason, I will boycot popcorn and church for the rest of the year. >>



Me too. It's going to take every ounce of willpower I have, but as a showing of CU solidarity I'll do everything in my worldly power to try and avoid church for the next 11 months. It's going to be touch and go around Easter, but hopefully I can persevere. >>



I'm just hoping that I don't die in the next 11 months. They'll have to have my service at the VFW or something... And if my kids decide to get married, that'll be at the IHOP. We're doing Easter next to the flower display at Walmart this spring. Now, I've just gotta remember to order nachos while I'm at the movies!

BassPro77

<< <i>Thanks, I am in no real need of moving on, just looking for better opportunities if the come along. I have been looking almost 2 years and turned down Coke and Cadbury Schweppes already. For some reason my resume looks really good to beverage companies even though I haven't made a beverage in 11 years. >>



i think you should try and work at a brewer so you can send us free beer.

MeteoriteGuy

Best way to lose me as a customer is put up that little Christian business symbol. I would join the boycott but I like popcorn.

storm888

"...During the interview it was stressed to me how Christian my boss is and he quoted me scripture during the interview and said he would ask god's guidence to make his choice and whatever choice he made would be with god's hand...."

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Yikes!

I am FAR more superstitious than most folks are.

I never tell folks that if they don't buy my brand of spookeeboo
that I will not hire them. I simply stay quiet and don't hire them.
(If one slips by, I put a spell on 'em that makes 'em quit.)

.....

If I was young and somebody pulled on me what the popcorn
nut seems to have pulled on the OP, I would have some fun
in court. The insurance guys would likely pay me quickly to
go away.

Morgoth

I appreciate the sentiments and after consulting with some of my friends and HR types I am going to file a formal complaint against this manager. I am going to remind them that they cannot discriminate based on religion or perception of someones religion. I want a written letter stating exactly what was said that was offensive and if they have other "witnesses to the event", how it violated their "core values" and how that changes my competency for the position.

It won't do anything but maybe remind this donkey butt that you can't make use moral judements about someones character based on one word and use it to make hiring decisions. He needs to be knocked down a little off his high horse. Maybe he will use real reasons such as competency, experience and salary demands to make decisions in the future.

I will also ask that they pay me for the mileage for all the interview trips (most companies offer to pay they didn't) and I am considering asking for full restitution for my vacation days I had to take from my current job.

Morgoth

Actually guys I want you all to eat TONS of popcorn, only buy this brand



Don't buy these guys or any store brands!!!!!!!!!

BassPro77

no problem. never heard of them

storm888

"...I want a written letter stating exactly what was said that was offensive ..."

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Sometimes, when something I said is restated to me for the first time, I
mistakenly recall the recounting to be correct.

Later, on reflection, I remember that I actually did not say what is alleged.

Maybe the OP actually said, "Wam" or "Shizam" or "WowMan."

IJustLoveCards

Morgoth,

Just read the thread, I am so sorry it didn't workout for you...I hope something comes your way real soon.

On the bright side, it appears if you did get the job, and you had dropped a jar in the lab and said "SH%T!" You'd prob get fired, so at least you dont have to worry about any gaps on your resume.

smet

What is "nakspak" anyways?

Morgoth

Storm you are right, no lie I actually am assuming what I said. I know I didn't go around dropping F-bombs but vaguely remember being excited about some equipment and I could have said damn but it happened almost a week ago and I am not even sure. I try very hard to keep a professional attitude on interviews, believe me I have been asked some really rank things in interviews normally at lunch or off hand and try very hard not to swear or joke offhandedly so this is just odd that someone would zero in on an a remark I may have made and try to use it as a hammer.