My British 1/3 farthing set complete!

Hussulo · December 17, 2008 7:37AM

I'm playing the PCGS registration game for the GB 1/3 farthings and I've just managed to secure an upgrade for one of them.

1881 1/3 Farthing PCGS MS64RD

Mintage of 144,000.

ajaan · December 17, 2008 8:52AM

Nice one Hus.

coinkat · December 17, 2008 9:14AM

oh my... very attractive

coinpictures · December 17, 2008 9:19AM

Very nice! There are a lot of these in RD. I thought about doing the registry thing with all my fractional farthings, but am split about 50-50 between NGC and PCGS, and really don't feel like falling into the money pit that is the crossover game.

JCMhouston · December 17, 2008 12:48PM

Very nice piece Hus, congrats.

Hussulo · December 21, 2008 7:49AM

Thanks guys.

Most of my 1/3 farthings were either purchased raw or already in a PCGS slab. I had one the predessor to this coin PCGS MS64 RB which I crossed (after cracking out) from a NGC MS 64 RB.

Here's my set so far for anybody interested:
http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/MySetRegistry/mycollection.aspx?c=46740

+ 1827 MS64BN, 1835 MS62BN, 1902 MS64RD, 1913 MS65RD and
I'm just waiting on a 1884 getting slabbed.

All I am missing is a 1844 which I have sourced.

Then I will have a full set in PCGS MS grades.

I have asked the powers that be to change the set to recognise the other 1/3 farthings and not just the Victoria ones.
They have agreed to do so when my set is complete.

Regards,
Hus

coinpictures · December 21, 2008 8:12AM

Link gives me an error...

Hussulo · December 21, 2008 9:04AM

Perhaps because it was from my own account. Try this one:

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/Composite.aspx?c=1506

lordmarcovan · December 22, 2008 1:38AM

Love those little things. I've had some reddish ones in the past, but all raw.

What was the grade on the one you upgraded from?

coinpictures · December 22, 2008 1:48AM

Drat. I just went across the street to check out their registries only to find out that they only have farthings, not the fractionals (which I have now requested). I prefer NGC's registries because they allow both NGC and PCGS coins in them. I wish PCGS would do likewise.

Hussulo · December 22, 2008 5:09AM

What was the grade on the one you upgraded from?

It was the same grade, but a RB. I managed to swap it with a dealer I know (+ a small amount of cash).

I prefer NGC's registries because they allow both NGC and PCGS coins in them. I wish PCGS would do likewise.

That would be handy if they did.

lordmarcovan · December 22, 2008 5:31AM

It would indeed be nice if NGC coins could be put in PCGS registries, but I don't foresee that ever happening.

I can't join over on NGC, because they don't accept people with Hotmail email addresses.

Hussulo · December 22, 2008 6:18AM

You could open a new account with Yahoo, or someone they do accept.

I have two Yahoo accounts and one Hotmail account. As well as business ones

I opened the Hotmail so I could chat to relatives abroad using MSN. I have my primary Yahoo account for friends and family and one account which I use when I need to sign up to things online.

zeebob · December 22, 2008 9:02AM

1/3 farthing? I had no idea they made coins with such a low denomination. Good grief. I wonder what your coin could have purchased in 1881. Any ideas? A loaf of bread? An ounce of salt? A bit of candy?

Hussulo · December 23, 2008 5:03AM

The one-third farthing, was struck by the Royal Mint in England for exclusive use in Malta to replace the so called Maltese Habba or Maltese grain in 1827.

There is a smaller denomination the 1/4 farthing which coinpictures has a post on at the moment.

Here's a picture of the first one:

http://www.coinsgb.com/George_IV/2-Third-farthing.html

There were 12 business issues struck the last one being 1913.

1 for George IV
1 for William IV
8 for Victoria
1 for Edward VII
1 for George V

You can see most on my website by clicking on a ruler i.e Victoria and the 1/3 farthings:

CoinsGB.com

Below is a good reference website on farthings and their fractions:

http://www.aboutfarthings.co.uk/index.html

zeebob · December 23, 2008 6:29AM

Hussulo -

Thank you for the links. They were very informative!

Happy Holidays,

Bob

Hussulo · December 23, 2008 6:44AM

Your welcome Bob any time.

Happy holidays to you too.

Hussulo · May 15, 2009 4:04AM

Latest one added 1884:

I have now completed the British 1/3 Farthing set in PSGS MS condition.
http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/AlltimeSet.aspx?s=46740&m=14010&ac=0

The PCGS site only has Victorian ones listed but I've spoken to them about adding them all.

The complete dates for a set and my grades are below:

1827 - George IV MS64BN
1835 - William IV MS62BN
1844 - Victoria MS64BN
1866 - Victoria MS63RB
1868 - Victoria MS63RB
1876 - Victoria MS63RB
1878 - Victoria MS63RB
1881 - Victoria MS64RD
1884 - Victoria MS62RB
1885 - Victoria MS64RB
1902 - Edward VII MS64RD
1913 - George V MS65RD

I now need the varieties and proofs. Although I might move on to the other fractionals.

JCMhouston · May 15, 2009 5:14AM

Good going Hussulo, it feels good to complete a set doesn't it. I also use the NGC registry since they accept both, I have a split of probably 60-40 the other guys and can't see paying a bunch of money to cross.

Hussulo · May 15, 2009 5:26AM

It does feel good.

None of these were crossed I think three of them were already in PCGS slabs the rest I purchased raw and submitted.
I should also give Don a big shout out because without his help in letting me submit them they probably wouldn't be in the PCGS registry set.

MacCrimmon · May 15, 2009 10:32AM

Three cheers, lad.

AZLARRY · May 15, 2009 11:09AM

Congratulations Hus, that is a set you can be proud of.

wybrit · May 15, 2009 11:13AM

Nice finds all.

bosox · May 15, 2009 11:43AM

Congrats on completing the set. I'm partial to Vicky bronze myself.

coinpictures · May 15, 2009 1:14PM

<< <i>Good going Hussulo, it feels good to complete a set doesn't it. I also use the NGC registry since they accept both, I have a split of probably 60-40 the other guys and can't see paying a bunch of money to cross. >>

As do I, but NGC *STILL* hasn't added any fractional farthing registry sets, despite requests for several years now to do so. Idiots.

Good going Hussulo! The proofs will be tough to track down. I still don't own any...

P.S. Reading this thread made me do a bad bad thing. Pop 2/0 at NGC. PCGS has not certified any 1844s in RD.

SYRACUSIAN · May 15, 2009 7:56PM

Congrats Hus., I know that it's harder than it looks to assemble such a set, but it's worth the effort when you become the all time finest with little chances to be removed from the top spot. Very pretty collection.

As do I, but NGC *STILL* hasn't added any fractional farthing registry sets, despite requests for several years now to do so. Idiots.

Dan, it's just a decision to switch to PCGS and it can all be done in one single crossgrading submission. IMO it's worth the fees, if one decides to participate in the registry.

theboz11 · May 15, 2009 8:28PM

WTG. Beautiful collection

Hussulo · May 15, 2009 11:37PM

Thank you.

Good going Hussulo! The proofs will be tough to track down. I still don't own any...

One for sale at David Lwrence Rare coins:
http://www.davidlawrence.com/inventory/searchResults.cfm?pickseries=426&category1=6&CFID=2616093&CFTOKEN=a2dc638119448438-499C6D18-2BFC-0A80-30256A11D14DAB73

proofs are out of my current budget for now though.

I might email NGC too they might add it if a few people ask. I can always upload my PCGS coins to it.

cacheman · May 16, 2009 6:12AM

Nice!

Hussulo · September 28, 2009 6:26AM

I recently won this 1/3 farthing which will be an upgrade for my set:

It is a narrow or small date variety.

The two can be seen here:
http://www.aboutfarthings.co.uk/Fractional%20-%20Third%20Farthing%201878.html

I paid quite a bit over the guide prices but I really wanted it.

The dates I've struggled the most to find in high grades are:
1835, 1866, 1868, 1876, 1878 and 1884.

When I saw that one I new I couldn't pass it up. It has to be one of the nicest if not the nicest example of an 1878 1/3 farthing in existence.

I've also noticed what could be a new variety. Opinions?

If you compare the two types on Colin's website and this:

I would say this one (my old example for 1878) has a large 7, the bottom of the 7 extends below the 8's.
Perhaps we could call it the large 7 variety?

Come to think of it the bottom of the seven on my new coin appears to be rounded where as the others have a flat bottom.

Another new variety, the rounded 7 perhaps?

They aren't widely collected not much research has been done on them.

coinpictures · September 28, 2009 6:36AM

So you're the [CENSORED] who outbid me!

Seriously, I was the underbidder. I guess you wanted it more than I did. Congrats!

canadacolornut · September 28, 2009 6:43AM

Congratulations Hussulo.

I was in the bidding for awhile but dropped out about $150 short of the winning bid.

Good to see someone who really needed it for a great set land it....

Hussulo · September 28, 2009 6:45AM

Thanks CP

I did really want it.

Who would have guessed the only two 1/3 farthing collectors in the world battling it out. Lol

Hussulo · September 28, 2009 6:46AM

Thanks CC.

I was hoping to win it for less but I bid high hoping to win.
It's a nice upgrade to the one I own.

wybrit · October 2, 2009 12:52AM

That's a nice piece - you're not likely to find one better.

MacCrimmon · October 2, 2009 3:25AM

Any PCGS 19th c. UK bronze in 66RD is a very, very rare bird. Congrats!

SYRACUSIAN · October 2, 2009 11:19PM

Super upgrade. And a yellow holder too.

goossen · October 2, 2009 11:37PM

Congrats! Very nice coins

zeebob · October 5, 2009 4:38AM

Hussulo - Congratulations! 1/3 farthings are very cool!

BillyKingsley · October 5, 2009 5:32AM

WOW. That is a stunning coin. Most impressive!

asheland · October 21, 2009 1:50PM

Great coins!

My British 1/3 farthing set complete!

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