Some here and many others need to undestand that just because they haven't seen a particular scam style before, doesn't mean it can't happen, especially for this amount of money. Some scammers can get pretty clever at times especially for this amount of money. It's like an arms race out there with the scammers attempting to find new and clever ways of scamming, with us here and others doing our best to call them out for what they are - and that is a bunch of thieves or attempted thieves who should be in prison.
<< <i>Steve you have no proof that this was a scam. Maybe the guy got cold feet? maybe he sold it offline? Maybe his wife told him h could keep it?
The list goes on and on....
If he did not have the card how did he place that white piece of paper on it with his name?
Had he not done that you would have surely mentioned that he should to prove he had the card.
Well he did that and you still think it was a scam.
The only thing we know for sure is that someone had that card in hand and was ebaying it and then decided not too for whatever reason.
Yes we know that the world is filled with scummy scammers.
Steve >>
Steve - I stated from the start that I thought this auction smelled. I am always willing to listen to good posters here like yourself, Storm, and a number of others when evidence is presented to the contrary, and perhaps I may change my mind. Despite the "evidence" this thing still didn't look Kosher to me, but perhaps it ended for reasons you state. In any event, it's also possible it was a scam that got taken down. Maybe we'll find out but probably this will get buried in the mountain thick archives of ebay scams that got deleted and were simply forgotten about forevermore.
I would stay away from this auction. I bought a 1933 Goudey Gehrig from him earlier this year, and I believe that it is a fake. If I recall, he went by the name Jose Hernandez. Other buyers contacted me and asked to participate in an FBI investigation of the guy, but I declined. Hope this helps.
It could be that the PSA slab itself was a fake. I fell victim to that by someone in San Diego. Myself along with about 40 other people contacted the Feds, and a young man got himself arrested. The arresting officer actually called me personally. Within a couple of months, the San Diego police department started to send me checks to make up what I lost. It was beautiful. A scammer got arrested AND I got my money back.
This could be a similar setup.
I'm building a 1968 and a 1970 Topps set. I have lots of 1970s and 1960s to offer in trade.
The "dunkindoughnuts" guy Jose Hernandez sent me a fake T206 Cobb that was in a PSA holder. I was able to get my money back by threatening to call the FBI on him. Avoid this guy like the plague!
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Steve
The list goes on and on....
If he did not have the card how did he place that white piece of paper on it with his name?
Had he not done that you would have surely mentioned that he should to prove he had the card.
Well he did that and you still think it was a scam.
The only thing we know for sure is that someone had that card in hand and was ebaying it and then decided not too for whatever reason.
Yes we know that the world is filled with scummy scammers.
Steve
<< <i>Steve you have no proof that this was a scam. Maybe the guy got cold feet? maybe he sold it offline? Maybe his wife told him h could keep it?
The list goes on and on....
If he did not have the card how did he place that white piece of paper on it with his name?
Had he not done that you would have surely mentioned that he should to prove he had the card.
Well he did that and you still think it was a scam.
The only thing we know for sure is that someone had that card in hand and was ebaying it and then decided not too for whatever reason.
Yes we know that the world is filled with scummy scammers.
Steve >>
Steve - I stated from the start that I thought this auction smelled. I am always willing to listen to good posters here like yourself, Storm, and a number of others when evidence is presented to the contrary, and perhaps I may change my mind. Despite the "evidence" this thing still didn't look Kosher to me, but perhaps it ended for reasons you state. In any event, it's also possible it was a scam that got taken down. Maybe we'll find out but probably this will get buried in the mountain thick archives of ebay scams that got deleted and were simply forgotten about forevermore.
Stevek was right!
Steve
This could be a similar setup.
Mike
1. His PSA account could have been hacked.
2. A scamster could have found the "EBAY sale note" in the registry log and used it for cover.
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Maybe, registry folks should consider filing a phone number or email addy
where they can be contacted when security issues are suspected.
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The Hernandez guy was part of the Craig's List scam. San Diego, San Jose, North Carolina, Texas.