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Want to hear what people are going to say about this!
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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    My thoughts? Ive been outbid.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • athleticsfanathleticsfan Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    There are many red flags here as mentioned in the other thread.
    Anyone else see frosting on the reverse of the holder?
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The seller is a registry guy, I don't for see any problems, Ive emailed him and it seems legit


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller is a registry guy, I don't for see any problems, Ive emailed him and it seems legit


    Steve >>



    Why wouldn't he mention that in the auction description for a card such as this? - I would think it would have to help.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    mention what? That he has cards on the registry? I dunno, why don't you email him and ask?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>mention what? That he has cards on the registry? I dunno, why don't you email him and ask?


    Steve >>



    i shouldn't have to ask - and i still think this auction smells.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>mention what? That he has cards on the registry? I dunno, why don't you email him and ask?


    Steve >>



    i shouldn't have to ask - and i still think this auction smells. >>



    We're not talking about chopped liver here - this is a PSA 8 '52 Mantle ya know.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>mention what? That he has cards on the registry? I dunno, why don't you email him and ask?


    Steve >>



    i shouldn't have to ask - and i still think this auction smells. >>



    We're not talking about chopped liver here - this is a PSA 8 '52 Mantle ya know. >>



    At least it's supposed to be?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Lay off the bottle, your posting like I usually do.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I agree, the guy should be making it so people like you believe it is a real auction.






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    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Hic cup



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Check his feedback..........Text look fine by me.
  • Might be legit....But I wouldn't touch it. The guy that bought the 33 Ruth 6.5 has purchased a total of $500 in computer equipment and not even bid on another card.

    Read the description on the Ruth where he describes the wrong card and yet doesn't cancel the auction.

    Hope it all works out for both.

    33 Ruth he sold before
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.
  • athleticsfanathleticsfan Posts: 251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The guy that bought the 33 Ruth 6.5 has purchased a total of $500 in computer equipment and not even bid on another card. Read the description on the Ruth where he describes the wrong card and yet doesn't cancel the auction. >>



    Plus the card sold within about 2 hours of it being listed.

    Something is very wrong here.
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  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Just a couple of thoughts....

    ... Too many comments from this seller concerning resubbing cards to attain higher grades .... (Big Money Left on the Table?)

    ... Terrible photos of Big Ticket items ... (Common Sense?)

    ... Misspelled words ... Ebay Power Seller with 100% Possitive Feedback ---- Full item coverage with PayPay and $2,000 Ebay Guarenteed! (computer wiz, even if foreign, should know to use a spell-checker, especially for something permanent, as in his "about Me" section!

    ... All of his feedbacks as a buyer are for 99 cent and $1 items ONLY! ... (Strange or Not? ~ Check out some of the items!)

    ... Approved Bidders List? ... asking for email addresses? ... (For the purpose of solicitation outside eBay maybe?)

    ... 123Sliders' comment about the 33 Goudey Ruth card ... (purchased by a guy that previously and coincidentally only bid on computer items!)

    All in all, I'm leaning towards staying as far away from this guy as possible ... but who knows, maybe he's legit! ..... NOT!

    PoppaJ


  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I am starting to think jacked-account.

    Does anybody know the chap?
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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Major Red Flags (like others have noted)

    He has only been a member for 6 months, padding his feedback with garbage.

    Thats all I need to see. Sure there is a 1% chance the guy has the card or is selling it for someone, but the feedback and scans are garbage and worthless.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818


    << <i>I am starting to think jacked-account.

    Does anybody know the chap? >>



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    Storm,

    I thought that too until I saw this.

    Your thoughts?

    PoppaJ
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Not everyone is as bright as most of us here, some step in it every step of the way.

    They are able to amass cards like this because of some retarded talent they possess.

    Why does this guy claim every card is undergraded? I call it fluff. See above line.

    It's like the guy who claims everyone of his cards was hi end and add 20 plus signs to the grade.


    Is it legit? Seems to me it is. Will I be buying any of these items? NO.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭

    1952 TOPPS 311 MICKEY MANTLE 8 29 11 "EBAY LISTED" RUDY TANG Collection



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I am starting to think jacked-account.

    Does anybody know the chap? >>



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    Storm,

    I thought that too until I saw this.

    Your thoughts?

    PoppaJ >>



    So what exactly does that mean as far as this auction is concerned? Is the guy just a clever scammer, or is the guy legit, and all the "big boys" with the registry know about the auction so the seller didn't even care to put much thought into the auction figuring the card was clearly advertised and known already.

    Geez it would pain me terribly to admit that WinPitcher was right. image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Your thoughts?

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    The Reg-page leaves me clueless.

    He has either got the card and is selling it, OR he is being
    held hostage by somebody who has access to his Registry
    page.

    I don't recall seeing a worse quality legitimate listing for
    such a card, but I suppose it is possible.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What bothers me is that you can't email him thru that registry page.

    I'd like to do that.


    My emails with him have been thru ebay.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< They are able to amass cards like this because of some retarded talent they possess. >>>

    You got that right - like inventing the slinky or the pet rock, or developing Pokemon and the Pokemon cards, and how about Beany Babies which is probably the outright most pathetically high priced ridiculous collectible I've ever seen in my life.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A number of large feedback boys bidding on the card with still a long way to go - i guess that tells ya something.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Has anyone googled Rudolph (Rudy) Tang?





    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has anyone googled Rudolph (Rudy) Tang?

    Steve >>



    He probably invented that drink called "Tang" - that explains the wealth. LOL
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    lol Do it you will be amazed.


    Now, is it the same guy auctioning the card?

    That is the 64 thousand dollar question.






    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe?

    Rudolph (Rudy) Tang
    Owner of Unit 3004 Since 11/2007
    Candidate for the Election of Ocean Four Board of Directors, May 28, 2008
    My Values:
    Integrity, Honesty, Ethical Behavior, Fiscal Responsibility
    Respect to the Law and compliance with the Law
    Believe in Democracy & Individual Freedom
    Believe in open communication
    My Biography: Born in 1948, Taipei, Taiwan
    1971: B.S. Applied Mathematics, Taiwan
    1973: Arrived USA as a student
    1975: M.A. Mathematics & Computer Science, St. John s University, NYC
    1981: Naturalized as an US Citizen.
    1975-2006: Lived in NYC & NJ, worked as a consultant, project manager,
    network architecture designer
    2007: Retired.
    11/2007: Bought unit 3004
    01/01/2008: Became a full time resident of Ocean 4
    My Family: Ellen (wife), retired (former controller of a fortune 100 company)
    Stephen (son), married, lives in NJ
    Stephanie (daughter), lives in NY
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remember - Baseball is very popular in Taiwan...and Taiwan has done well in numerous Little League World Series.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    All this talk about Tang is making me thirsty image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What does that have to do with if he is in fact selling this card?

    The fact that Taiwan is good in LL baseball?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yup I read that PDF too. That explains the broken English. The registry setup appears to be some sort
    of buying/selling club.


    Like the 64 Standups of a few years ago, some sellers make it so difficult when selling.


    The guy did try, he put his name on paper on the card, even that was questioned though lol


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What does that have to do with if he is in fact selling this card?

    The fact that Taiwan is good in LL baseball?


    Steve >>



    Good grief Steve - The fact that he might be interested in baseball cards? And here you were just beginning to gain my respect - now you'll have to start all over again.



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  • The other part that bothers me is why put the reserve at around $10,000? You OK after it hits that? If this is legit, it is the worst run auction ever. I still say not a chance.
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    He could be from Osh Kosh for all I care.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is he selling?

    Well, he did retire so perhaps he just isn't interested in the cards any longer? ...a total guess.

    Storm's assertion of a hijacked account can't be entirely ruled out - i guess the hijacker would have had to of hijacked his PSA account password.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    I especially like folks who want to reduce fees by $500K AND hire an onsite-manager AND
    give me a FREE storage space ASAP.

    AOAO's rock!

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    it is the worst run auction ever.


    It's close but I've seen worse, those 64 standups come to mind.



    Steve


    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think someone should contact PSA about this to clarify.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the card is legit, i'm willing to go partners with someone - i'll put up .0001% and you put up the rest.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Any guesses on the outcome of this auction?

    Final Price?

    Does it go the distance?

    PoppaJ
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Steve (or anyone else)...

    He said I could bid, but that I needed to follow his link (to rarecardtrader.com which then has a link to PSA) and register. I don't see where there is an option to register. I'm happy to do so, but I'm curious as to what extra assurance this gives him? I'm just wondering why he's so adamant about that. He doesn't seem to give credence to my long-standing account and 100% feedback on eBay.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< First of all because of the value of this card all bidders must email me before bidding, with you Name, Number, and E-mail address. No new bidders will be accepted within 72 hours of the closing of this auction and all approved bidders must have made at least one bid prior to 72 hours remaining of this auction to remain on my approved bidder list, because at that point im only accepting bids from my approved bidders list. >>>

    Even if the auction is legit, in my opinion no one in his right mind would place terms like this on an item like this, without having at least one shill bidder who has already placed a bid. Nobody is gonna steal this card, although the shill bidder might win it, and it may appear that someone got a bargain.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    It seems, but is not certain, that the seller would have heard about the
    threads here, and come over to simply state, "Don't worry, it's really me."
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I too emailed him asking if I could bid and he made no demands other then saying yes.


    Some people make it si difficult, how can he stop someone from bidding?

    He is not using the ebay pre approved format, or is he?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    Did anyone get him to reveal/provide the PSA Serial Number?

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did anyone get him to reveal/provide the PSA Serial Number?

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    He'll do that when he's safely in Canada. image
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Auction was ended early .... Let the speculations begin!

    I'll say ... BOGUS from Day 1!

    JMHO<
    PoppaJ
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