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  • JeremyDie1JeremyDie1 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭
    Not sure how much you sell on ebay but you may want to try Auctiva. You then can supersize all your images and can have as many scans as you want. Hopefully you can move on from this guy and you get the card back and your ebay fees.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I hope you dont get an empty bubble mailer back with DC. Good luck. >>



    Ouch. Don't say things like that. >>



    I just sold a Jeter auto'd card for 110 to a bidder with 0 Feedback. Im just waiting for that to happen.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    <what a dingleberry>

    you said dingle berrys
    how joyous it is to be kisses underneath the diggleberries-george carlin

    image
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    At the risk of sidetracking the new thread about dingleberries, here are my recommendations for PSA graded card labels:

    PSA 10 - ENEL (Extremely nice and extremely lucky)
    PSA 9 - ENPL (Extremely nice and pretty lucky)
    PSA 8 - EN (Extremely nice)
    PSA 7 - VN (Very nice)
    PSA 6 - PN (Pretty nice)
    PSA 5 - OK (Okay)
    PSA 4 - AOK (Almost okay)
    PSA 3 - NOK (Not okay)
    PSA 2 - AP (Almost poor)
    PSA 1 - RP (Really poor)

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any unbiased observer would clearly say that from the understood dictionary definition of the word "good" to describe something...that a card graded "good" really isn't a card in good condition. LOL


  • << <i>Any unbiased observer would clearly say that from the understood dictionary definition of the word "good" to describe something...that a card graded "good" really isn't a card in good condition. LOL >>



    coins have the same problem. good is the second lowest grade.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The problem with that is casual observers are not buying 1958 Maris cards.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any unbiased observer would clearly say that from the understood dictionary definition of the word "good" to describe something...that a card graded "good" really isn't a card in good condition. LOL >>



    And "VG" or "Very Good" is really not very good either.

    Shane

  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    the lowest common denominator: classify it as utter crap and you shall earn the Highest praise! imageimage
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Obviously, the OP is a skilled, honest and experienced seller; he doesn't need my lecture on
    writing descriptions, but here are a few things I know.

    If we cruise over to Ruby Lane for some window shopping, we find the BEST and most honest
    descriptions on the web. RL requires that ALL sellers accept returns for any reason. To mitigate
    against a flood of honest folks making returns, most sellers PROFUSELY describe their items.
    Even the tiniest defects are described, and close-ups of the defects are shown.

    This does NOT prevent crooks from abusing the return policy, but it helps keep the honest folks
    out of the mix. Sellers report that return-rates are not a problem.

    Sometime in 2009, probably before summer, EBAY will institute a mandatory "returns accepted"
    policy for ALL sellers. Combined with PayPal's ridiculous buyer-protection on "SNAD issues," the
    change will make it unprofitable for some small sellers to do biznez on EBAY. (EBAY is simply to
    expensive and time-consuming a venue on which to conduct "sales on approval.")

    It is likely wise for folks to start getting ready to expand their card-selling empires onto other
    free or less expensive venues.

    As noted above, PayPal has no "SNAD-scam enabling" policies on any site other than EBAY.

    On other sites, an honest buyer with a legitimate complaint can either work it out with the seller,
    or go to his credit card company for help. When a CC chargeback happens, the seller has an excellent
    chance of prevailing in the dispute; the security departments fully investigate complaints by
    sellers that their buyer is a scamster. Fake SNAD claims - and boxes returned with rocks in
    them - are tough for crooks to win when REAL experts are reviewing the case.

    godaddy and other hosting companies offer CHEAP packages to get sellers started OFF of EBAY.

    ecrater has power-packed offerings that are TOTALLY FREE. google Check Out and paper payments
    are welcome. Stores are free. Each listing gets 10 huge pictures, FREE. And, nobody tells you how
    to run your business. google indexes the listings almost immediately. PayPal backs its honest sellers
    on ecrater; it does not roll-over for SCAMSTERS and THIEVES......(Google Checkout is FREE, for folks
    who use google-adwords. Instead of making PP richer, the money goes into ads that bring sales.)


    ////////////


    To illustrate the hypocracy of EBAY's leadership, we can look to Lorrie Norrington's infrequent
    listings. (She is the President of Marketplace Operations at EBAY.) Each of her listings disavow
    returns by stating "items sold as is." She accepts PayPal.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any unbiased observer would clearly say that from the understood dictionary definition of the word "good" to describe something...that a card graded "good" really isn't a card in good condition. LOL >>



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    Folks who think that card-grading designations are odd, should study the definition
    of stamps in "fine" condition.

    image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i still think we should talk abut dingleberries somemore while i vent in the cold hereimage
    it might warm me up till i get a fire going good
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The problem with that is casual observers are not buying 1958 Maris cards.

    Steve >>



    My goodness is that a totally incorrect assertion - Yes, the "casual observer" is not buying high grade PSA Maris, but they do buy low grade star cards all the time. Sorry Steve...you're completely wrong on that one.
  • what an ass that guy is.Probably one of these amateur collectors who think good means mint.Good in the card collecting world is pretty bad shape and almost at the end of the spectrum.I always see people list cards as good condition not knowing what it means in card terms.In this case it was a buyer who obviously has no idea what good means.Im with Ya .Good luck!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Stevek what are you talking about? Are you saying that the casual person is out buying 1958 Maris cards?

    That was what I was referring to, geeze take what is said in context!

    Steve

    edited to add: so that there is no misunderstanding (geeze that would be a first around here)

    By casual I am talking about a person not in the hobby!

    You know, the same person you were referring to.

    I was agreeing with you!








    Good for you.
  • I also think there should have been mention of the crease. As a novice to card collecting, looking at that card, the crease may appear as a fading in color. The buyer also could have assumed that if that imperfection was in fact a crease it most certainly would have been mentioned.
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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    Ruby Lane
    +1 for ruby laneimage
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i am still venting , did you guys give up? it sat night, gotta ventimage
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Shane you are a crook, you tried to pull a fast one with that scan but no description...then you use the abbr. GD to mean good, all the while knowing there are
    many different ways of using the word good. Whats next..some searched rack packs that are in "like new" condition? maybe MIB for some seached packs?

    Shame on you bro, only using a pic is what crooks do! next time please give us 1000 words on the card...like the history of the card and where it was pulled!

    Thanks

    Kevin
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Shane you are a crook, you tried to pull a fast one with that scan but no description...then you use the abbr. GD to mean good, all the while knowing there are
    many different ways of using the word good. Whats next..some searched rack packs that are in "like new" condition? maybe MIB for some seached packs?

    Shame on you bro, only using a pic is what crooks do! next time please give us 1000 words on the card...like the history of the card and where it was pulled!

    Thanks

    Kevin >>



    Lil Kev, I hope you are joking. Shane has over 3000 positive feedback and it's a 100% which tells me he makes an honest attempt at selling and buying. I really think he felt the crease was obvious, but I do feel he should specify any blems in the future.

    Brian
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Kevin is joking, however he feels that a blemish as severe as the one we are discussing does not
    need to be mentioned. He does not realize that not everyone see's pictures the same.

    Steve


    Good for you.
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