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For Sale: 1968 Topps Nolan Ryan / Milton Bradley AUCTION ENDS TODAY

I have it here on ebay.LINK TO EBAY


THIS IS THE RARE AND HARD TO FIND VERSION. IT IS GRADED BVG (BECKETT VINTAGE GRADING) 5.5.

This card has a total population of 16 with Beckett...at 5.5, this is the 8th best card in BVG graded existence.

Becket.com says the following about the card:


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These cards were included in a 1968 Milton Bradley Win-A-Card game. These cards, which are variations of some singles from the first two series, feature an "yellow" back rather than an orange back. These cards, along with some 1967 Topps Football cards and Topps Hot Rod cards were all part of the game. The key card in this set is a Nolan Ryan "Rookie".

Beckettpedia

Topps printed a special batch of cards for the Milton Bradley game pictured below (game came out in 1969). They ended up using a different dye lot on the back (yellow back instead of orange) and when the cards were cut from the sheet they left a border strip of the on one side.

Beckett Vintage Grading currently has a population of 16 of this card, making it extremely rare compared to the standard issue Topps version. PSA does not label the Milton Bradley card, making it even more difficult to find a graded, authenticated and labeled card.

In May of 2008, a Nolan Ryan / Koosman Milton Bradley sold for $1280.76.


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  • Since you capitalized "RARE" and "HARD TO FIND" plus gave us the history of the card, I am now interested. Should have included "WOW" in the title.

    Georgia sucks. Good night.
  • 52-38, 3 in a row.


  • << <i>3 in a row >>



    ?????
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    He is keeping track....watch out...


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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What is the reserve?

    Also, didn't one of these just sell last week? If so, how hard to find can they be if one sells per week?





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    Steve
    Good for you.
  • i am pretty sure that atleast 2 sold last week. A "3" and a "6" i think...
  • 2 have sold in the last week....and 3 in ebay history as far as I can tell.

    Looks like the seller are coming out of the wood-work.

    The 3 was from a guy who posts on this board.


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    << <i>3 in a row >>



    ????? >>



    Hell yes 3 in a row.

    2004: 45-16 beat down in Athens
    2005: 34-14 for the SEC Championship
    2008: 52-38 in red stick

    5 years of UGA dominance over LSU.


  • << <i>What is the reserve?


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    Steve >>



    What is a better way to handle an auction than setting a reserve? Just start the bidding at the reserve price?
  • The 2003 SEC Championship Game was won by the LSU Tigers 34-13 over the Georgia Bulldogs. The game was played in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia.

    That's all I got.image


  • << <i>The 2003 SEC Championship Game was won by the LSU Tigers 34-13 over the Georgia Bulldogs. The game was played in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia.

    That's all I got.image >>




    LSU had our number in 2003...which earned them a National Championship.

    The 3 games in 5 seasons since then...not so much.

    What is funny about a national championship is this....

    13-1, SEC Champ, Sugar Bowl Champ, lost to Florida.

    That is the exact season LSU had in 2003 and Georgia had in 2002. One got a national championship, and one didn't.


    O yea, buy my card....LINK
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What is a better way to handle an auction than setting a reserve? Just start the bidding at the reserve price?


    I guess, my question was how much is the reserve?

    SD
    Good for you.


  • << <i>


    I guess, my question was how much is the reserve?

    SD >>




    Multiple times lower than what a comparable cards has sold for in the last month.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    Gotta be a poker player....


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


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  • << <i>Gotta be a poker player.... >>



    LOL...why set a reserve if I am going to show my hand...right?
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    When I used to sell hotrod cars I used to try not to lose the bidders who had money and were seriously interested.
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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    If they are serious enough...they will bid...

    sounds like a bunch of tire kickers...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    How do you 'show your hand' by revealing what the reserve is?

    Not sure I understand that logic.

    The reserve is simply the least you will sell the card for.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    FWIW many sellers that use the reserve format say what the reserve is in the discription.

    Many buyers simply move on to other items when they see a reserve auction.

    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>FWIW many sellers that use the reserve format say what the reserve is in the discription.

    Many buyers simply move on to other items when they see a reserve auction.

    Steve >>




    The reserve is many times lower than what the card has been getting on various recent auctions....so it shouldn't be an issue. In the future, I guess I will just start the bidding at the minimum price I will take for the card with no reserve.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Stevek wrote

    "If they are serious enough...they will bid...

    sounds like a bunch of tire kickers... "

    We prefer the term "slab kickers"


    or "foundation kickers" in real estate image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Sellers that do not divulge what the reserve is are simply fishing.

    Some buyers (tire kickers) have gone as far as bidding an item up, finding out what the reserve is and the retracting the bid.

    I have no interest in buying this card, I simply was wondering what the reserve was.

    In any event good luck with your sale.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    "In the future, I guess I will just start the bidding at the minimum price I will take for the card with no reserve".


    Or you can do what many other sellers do and state what the reserve is in the description.


    I think it is cheaper to list the card at the minimum you want for it as opposed to setting a reserve.

    Storm would know for sure, I find that starting cards like this Ryan at .99 will not mean that you will be taken.

    They seem to wind up at what they are worth.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭



    The reserve is many times lower than what the card has been getting on various recent auctions....so it shouldn't be an issue. In the future, I guess I will just start the bidding at the minimum price I will take for the card with no reserve. >>




    Here is an idea....

    Do want you want...It is your auction...and if people dont want to bid they can move along, or make comments all they want.... as they move along....


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...


  • << <i>The reserve is many times lower than what the card has been getting on various recent auctions....so it shouldn't be an issue. In the future, I guess I will just start the bidding at the minimum price I will take for the card with no reserve. >>




    Here is an idea....

    Do want you want...It is your auction...and if people dont want to bid they can move along, or make comments all they want.... as they move along.... >>



    Sounds good. The reserve is fair...it should fetch double the reserve.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    Nice thread on this topic on the other forum...seem to be some differing opinions...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...


  • << <i>Nice thread on this topic on the other forum...seem to be some differing opinions... >>




    Link?
  • Ebay auction ends today for the Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley Rookie Card......

    Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    ...........moving along.




    Steve
    Good for you.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The owner of the card has every right to sell in any format he sees fit. I have noticed cards I am interested in with reserves seldom meet the reserve and usually the highest bid is well below the normal ending price. I usually pass on reserve auctions.
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
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    Ralph

  • Chiming in:

    Reserve pricing is a legacy thing from before the buy it now/best offer days. Ebay charges a premium to set a reserve and you get less bids. To wit:

    a. i had a rare a valuable CD. Set a reserve at 50 bucks. Bidding never got to 40.
    b. relisted said CD at 99 cents, got bidding war, sold at 75.

    yabbadabbadoo
  • BTW - does anyone know how to identify the MB variations of these 1968 cards? I don't see anything, but I'm no expert!
    yabbadabbadoo


  • << <i>BTW - does anyone know how to identify the MB variations of these 1968 cards? I don't see anything, but I'm no expert! >>



    Buy it here....



    It is easily identifiable. See the white stripe on the Koosman side?....here is some more info....


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    link

    These cards were included in a 1968 Milton Bradley Win-A-Card game. These cards, which are variations of some singles from the first two series, feature an "yellow" back rather than an orange back. These cards, along with some 1967 Topps Football cards and Topps Hot Rod cards were all part of the game. The key card in this set is a Nolan Ryan "Rookie".

    Beckettpedia

    Topps printed a special batch of cards for the Milton Bradley game pictured below (game came out in 1969). They ended up using a different dye lot on the back (yellow back instead of orange) and when the cards were cut from the sheet they left a border strip of the on one side.

    Beckett Vintage Grading currently has a population of 16 of this card, making it extremely rare compared to the standard issue Topps version. PSA does not label the Milton Bradley card, making it even more difficult to find a graded, authenticated and labeled card.

    In May of 2008, a Nolan Ryan / Koosman Milton Bradley sold for $1280.76.


  • << <i>...........moving along.




    Steve >>



    What are my alternatives to a reserve on ebay? Just start the bidding at the reserve price?
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW - does anyone know how to identify the MB variations of these 1968 cards? I don't see anything, but I'm no expert! >>



    The Milton Bradley Ryan will usually have a white edge on the border closer to Koosman and the yellow color on the back of the card is usually a brighter yellow.

    Edited to add, sorry, I'm a little slow on my typing as the question was already answered.

    Donato

    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

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    << <i>

    Donato >>



    I looked at your site.... What grade Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley do you have?

    What would you rank the Milton Bradley variation among all Ryan cards? Second behind the Venezuelan?

  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    It's pretty easy to tell the difference when you put them next to each other -


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  • << <i>It's pretty easy to tell the difference when you put them next to each other -


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    Great example...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭

    What are my alternatives to a reserve on ebay? Just start the bidding at the reserve price?


    That is one way. Some cards I'd start at .99 knowing full well that they will reach what they are worth.

    Cards like Mantles etc.


    Your card is going to see action towards the end of the auction.


    Will it reach the reserve? I don't know cuz I never found out what the reserve was.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    Patience...and you shall find out...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...


  • << <i>Patience...and you shall find out... >>



    Seriously, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with a reserve.

    If you are interested in the card, put your best bid in on a Snipe site and let the auction end. Very little time invested...and you may win a card you want at a decent price...or not...either way, Snipe technology allows you to set your bid and move on to the next without spending too much time on tracking the auction and wondering if the reserve will be met.
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

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    Donato >>



    I looked at your site.... What grade Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley do you have?

    What would you rank the Milton Bradley variation among all Ryan cards? Second behind the Venezuelan? >>



    I'm not Donato but I would say the 2nd toughest would be the 1972 venezuelan sticker that is his avatar.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Seriously, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with a reserve.



    dawg people have problems with reserves because they feel like they are wasting time.

    People want to pay what the market will bear, not what a seller deems the market to be.


    I have no idea what the market is on this card, so any amount I say would be a guess.


    I can say that this type of card would not go for a song that is for sure.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>


    dawg people have problems with reserves because they feel like they are wasting time.



    Steve >>




    Again, the reserve on this card is well below the observed market value. And again, how are you wasting time if you set a snipe price...let it do it's thing and check back on it. You either win or lose just like any other auction with no additional time spent.

    For me, the reserve was the option I saw to make sure I didn't lose money on the deal.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    All of this discussion on a reserve auctions...geesh

    Too bad you didnt list it extremely high and make it a "best offer"...

    Then, this thread may have really taken off...

    Good luck Dawg...I hope you do well with it...It is nice to see this thread stay at the top...(that cant hurt)


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Donato

    I looked at your site.... What grade Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley do you have?

    What would you rank the Milton Bradley variation among all Ryan cards? Second behind the Venezuelan? >>



    My Milton Bradley is in a PSA 6 holder. It's not graded as such because PSA does not recognize the variation, but I know it is a Milton Bradley.

    As far as Ryan rookies go, I would think it would be second to the Venezuelan, then third for OPC Rookie and fourth would be the American rookie.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Donato

    I looked at your site.... What grade Nolan Ryan Milton Bradley do you have?

    What would you rank the Milton Bradley variation among all Ryan cards? Second behind the Venezuelan?

    I'm not Donato but I would say the 2nd toughest would be the 1972 venezuelan sticker that is his avatar. >>



    Jim...

    Actually the 72 Venezuelan Ryan stamp is probably rarer than the 68 Venezuelan Ryan rookie.

    Donato

    Sorry about the off subject reply...
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

    Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Jim...

    Actually the 72 Venezuelan Ryan stamp is probably rarer than the 68 Venezuelan Ryan rookie.

    Donato

    Sorry about the off subject reply... >>



    To me they're both made of unobtainium. I've never seen either one except the picture of your venezuelan and the one at Dave's (unless that is the same one?)

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  • Reserve has been met fwiw....

    LINK
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Now you just have to hope 2 people can't live without it! image
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