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Thoughts/Opinions on 2008 ASE's

As some of you may know I'm a big fan of the American Silver Eagle! image And in keeping with the spirit of
THIS thread, I'd like to pose some questions/thoughts/opinions:

The Proof ASE is done for the year. Final sales/mintage of 712,633. I read an article/blog somewhere that prices on these will continue rise as the large volume dealer's supplies run out. With nearly a 3/4 million mintage, can the price increases continue up as folks who missed the boat fulfill their needs for collections & gifts? They are already bringing significant premiums on the bay. . . Is a temporary phenom or will this be a long term premium coin?

The '08-W burnished ASE sales so far (as of 10/30) are 391,973. When the current supply (of returns LOL) runs out, there won't be anymore minted as the Mint is "under-the-gun" to supply the insatiable appetite for the bullion coins.
Following these week to week, the sales figures aren't rising very much. Will there be a last minute rush to buy these at the inflated $25 price? Will these become the KEY to the burnished "W" series?

Inserting an EDIT here: How closely/accurately does the mint deduct the returned numbers from the posted sales numbers? Could it be that the actual sales of the '08-Ws are way less than the Mint's figures would indicate?

I also see prices for the '08 bullion strike ASEs above earlier dated pieces.
It looks like the 2008 mintage on these will go well over 20 million for the year, a new record. With this mintage, why would one pay a premium for these over the eariler dates?

Also, how are the prices of the 08/07-Ws holding up? Haven't checked on these lately.

Just some random thoughts and points to ponder! I've been thinking about this for awhile but didn't want to post on the USCF because we're talking bullion & I don't need the hassle from the self proclaimed forum police over there! image

Stack'um High!

John

Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!

Comments

  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭
    Not sure about the '08-W burnished ASE but the proofs will go nowhere as there were far too many minted.
  • I like the ASE's also, just got my first Roll of the bullion version recently.

    American Silver Eagle Bullion version

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    W Burnished Version

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    Reverse of 2007 version

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    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • I think the '08 W might be a good buy here, that mintage is well below the '06 W which is a $60-70 coin. The '08 proofs are strong and should gain some ground as many people buy them for Christmas and dealers didn't get enough to supply the upcoming demand. The '08 reverse '07 are getting a little weaker, unsure how well these will hold up long term. They are a really low mintage, so downside is probably low.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    my first thought when it comes to ASEs is overpriced for what you get. that is about it.

    otherwise i would rather collect walking liberty half dollars and leave
    this retread bullion round behind.
  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭


    << <i>my first thought when it comes to ASEs is overpriced for what you get. that is about it.

    otherwise i would rather collect walking liberty half dollars and leave
    this retread bullion round behind. >>





    Tell us what you REALLY think image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>my first thought when it comes to ASEs is overpriced for what you get. that is about it.

    otherwise i would rather collect walking liberty half dollars and leave
    this retread bullion round behind. >>





    Tell us what you REALLY think image >>



    i thought i just did?

    people get into this fancy pants talk of mintages and different
    finishes and etc... when that is just a way to make more money
    off collectors while interest is hot. soon the tide will turn, as it always
    does on things labeled "collectible" and these will have very little
    premium left to them above melt and the ones which were priced
    so high to begin with, they retain some of that value.

    It always happens. That is the fate of collectibles in the short term.
    There are so few exceptions to that rule. It is hilarious people keep thinking
    a bubble will take place and never POP!
  • FWIW, I was able to pick up the roll I bought for under 14 bucks with the cashback deal. Also, the ASE does seem to keep a high premium to spot versus something like the Maple leaf, but thats just my opinion.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    ASEs do keep a high premium compared to the other stuff. Look at the B&M stores.......they pay extra for ASEs and sell ASEs for more. I'll try and save up more money to get at least 1 roll of 2009 ASEs in the future.
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  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>my first thought when it comes to ASEs is overpriced for what you get. that is about it.

    otherwise i would rather collect walking liberty half dollars and leave
    this retread bullion round behind. >>





    Tell us what you REALLY think image >>



    i thought i just did?

    people get into this fancy pants talk of mintages and different
    finishes and etc... when that is just a way to make more money
    off collectors while interest is hot. soon the tide will turn, as it always
    does on things labeled "collectible" and these will have very little
    premium left to them above melt and the ones which were priced
    so high to begin with, they retain some of that value.

    It always happens. That is the fate of collectibles in the short term.
    There are so few exceptions to that rule. It is hilarious people keep thinking
    a bubble will take place and never POP! >>





    OK.... much better image
  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>my first thought when it comes to ASEs is overpriced for what you get. that is about it.

    otherwise i would rather collect walking liberty half dollars and leave
    this retread bullion round behind. >>





    Tell us what you REALLY think image >>



    i thought i just did?

    people get into this fancy pants talk of mintages and different
    finishes and etc... when that is just a way to make more money
    off collectors while interest is hot. soon the tide will turn, as it always
    does on things labeled "collectible" and these will have very little
    premium left to them above melt and the ones which were priced
    so high to begin with, they retain some of that value.

    It always happens. That is the fate of collectibles in the short term.
    There are so few exceptions to that rule. It is hilarious people keep thinking
    a bubble will take place and never POP! >>



    I agree with you to an extent and realize that not everyone likes or collects/stacks/hoards the same things. . . BUT. . . the proof ASEs from the mid '90s bring a nice premium. The '96 bullion piece still brings good money. The '06-W which originally sold for $19.95 still brings a pretty good price. Not even going to talk about the '95-W Proof. Most have dropped in price from the original frenzy, but still carry a good premium over melt. Maybe it's crazy but that's the market.

    Stack'um High!
    John
    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
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