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Something seems fishy about this?? Or did they just start a 2nd Ebay ID??


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  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭


    << <i>*** "Very Satisfied" 5 Star DSR Shipping Sale *** Through the end of October, Just Collect is running a sale on shipping: All graded cards ship for $3 for the first card and $1 for each additional card, and insurance is optional on purchases under $100. We appreciate your business and hope you will be Very Satisfied with this transaction and reflect that with Positive Feedback and 5 Stars in each category! >>



    Hello customers, we've been getting hammered on our star ratings because our shipping rates are outrageous, so we bumped our shipping rates down for a little while so Ebay doesn't put us on double secret probation.
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us 5 stars for our shipping charges. Please!
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • Hard to argue your shipping point, have bought a few I needed but ouch on shipping.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Something seems fishy about this?? Or did they just start a 2nd Ebay ID?? >>


    Pretty sure it's just their second ID.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • second id. the original did not take paypal and the second one always did....well both do now with ebay changes.
  • actually they have another second one that is not new..maybe they started this one to try to get feedback higher on shipping rates to get the ebay selling discount. they send a card with orders saying why they deserve 5 stars in each category.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    I thought Leighton and Scott created their 2nd ID to extract the modern/cheaper items
    from their original just_collect eBay store, "just_collect Vintage Sports Cards".

    By doing that, they aren't jeopardizing their slogan "eBay's #1 Vintage Card Consignment Firm".

    Personally, I like the idea .... makes it a lot easier to scan their vintage cards.

    The change in their shipping charges is pretty much self-explanatory image

    PoppaJ



  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    What were their shipping charges previously before the so called "sale"?
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    If I remember correctly, the last card I bought from them I payed $5.00 for shipping.
    1 Card!
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • $5 is crazy... and their new reduced rate of $3 is still a tad high.
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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    I won't buy from them since they added my email to their spam list without my permission. Nobody does that to Burgundy.



    Ron
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I remember correctly, the last card I bought from them I payed $5.00 for shipping.
    1 Card! >>



    Thanks! That's nuts!
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a seller myself I'm all for helping sellers with this horrible new feedback/DSR situation eBay has created, but I hate when it feels like im being told what to do.

    Here is the feedback they leave: "Thanks for a 5 Star sale! Please leave us 5 Stars in each category. Thanks!"

    That feedback is fine, but then you get this note tucked in with your item which seems a bit pushy when at the time of that sale they were charging $5.25 for shipping with a mandatory insurance charge added.

    image

    Edited to add: Just because I can see the shipping cost in the auction description does not make it a reasonable amount.
  • 262Runner262Runner Posts: 606 ✭✭✭
    I have always had a problem with sellers who "require" insurance on all items. I do not mind paying for the insurance if the value of the item warrants, howver, on a card that sells for less than $30 or so, seems like a waste, especially on $5 cards.

    I recently won a low grade common in a PSA holder (I broke out for my raw set), seller charged $3.50 to ship, $1.75 for insurance on a $4.00 card. I emailed the seller and asked that the insurance not be required on a $4.00 purchase. His response was if I paid cash he would not charge for insurance.

    I paid the insurance, he sent it un-insured. He got a neg.

    Collecting all cards - Gus Zernial
    Post Cereal both raw and PSA Graded (1961-1963)

  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818


    << <i>I have always had a problem with sellers who "require" insurance on all items. I do not mind paying for the insurance if the value of the item warrants, howver, on a card that sells for less than $30 or so, seems like a waste, especially on $5 cards.

    I recently won a low grade common in a PSA holder (I broke out for my raw set), seller charged $3.50 to ship, $1.75 for insurance on a $4.00 card. I emailed the seller and asked that the insurance not be required on a $4.00 purchase. His response was if I paid cash he would not charge for insurance.

    I paid the insurance, he sent it un-insured. He got a neg. >>



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    As soon as I read this "His response was if I paid cash he would not charge for insurance." I knew right away
    this guy was trying to cover his PayPal/eBay fees with the ol' "required insurance" scheme. image

    PoppaJ
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "As a seller myself I'm all for helping sellers with this horrible new feedback/DSR situation eBay has created, but I hate when it feels like im being told what to do..."

    //////////////////////////////////

    I must agree.

    However, lately, I have tried including a few notes in with the merch.
    Just simple stuff, like:

    "Your positive feedback and 5-star ratings are very much appreciated."

    It seems to have helped. My Shipping Cost stars are up a little. (Most
    of my shipping is "FREE." This generally leads to lower stars, due to
    the one or two folks each week who think 3 = not applicable.)

    I rarely sell collectibles, but those buyers are TOTALLY different than
    the buyers I deal with. Mine are mean and nasty and scammers and
    bottomfeeders, OR very nice simple folks who just may need a little
    reminder to do the right thing.

    ////////////////

    I actually kinda like justcollects' little FB card. It's pushy and I am
    not sure folks will read it, but it is proactive and might help some.



    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Storm it would be awesome to see Ebay's response to suspending a sellers account due to Excess shipping fee's when all the seller's auctions are with free shipping.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>......I actually kinda like justcollects' little FB card.......... >>



    I didn't mind receiving the card as much as I minded the fact that they're telling me that because I can see the shipping cost in the auction description I should consider it very reasonable (5 stars = very reasonable).

    To me, charging $5.25 for shipping with a mandatory insurance charge added (only a $35 sale) for 1 graded card is not very reasonable. The more I think about it makes me believe that it actually leans towards unreasonable.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Storm it would be awesome to see Ebay's response to suspending a sellers account due to Excess shipping fee's when all the seller's auctions are with free shipping. >>



    ////////////////////////////

    It is possible that a small seller could suffer that fate.

    I have not seen any reports of that EXACT circumstance,
    but mathmatically it could happen.

    4.3 is the cutoff in any category. That will, of course, be
    waived for the BIG BOX fellas.

    /////////////////////////

    We really need a BIG push to get rid of the DSR scam.
    It is the worst thing that has happened in the many
    years I have been on EBAY.

    LOTS of new sites are coming onto the scene. Eventually,
    one or more will break through.

    There IS traffic on ebid.net, delcampe.com, ecrater.com.

    /////////

    According to the experts at auctionbytes, the LARGEST
    trend is for sellers to have MANY selling venues, and
    their own webistes.

    The Steiners recently opened everyplaceisell.com. Folks
    can register their stores there, and they are dumped
    into the search sites. Currently, there is no charge.

    Websites are cheap and google adwords bring business.

    Way over 50% of my EBAY sales come from googlebase,
    and the standard EBAY dump to google. I know this
    not from tracking data, but from the fact that when
    googlebase gets a glitch, my sales are cut in half.



    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "To me, charging $5.25 for shipping with a mandatory insurance charge added (only a $35 sale) for 1 graded card is not very reasonable. The more I think about it makes me believe that it actually leans towards unreasonable. "

    ///////////////////////////

    It IS both unreasonable AND a RIPOFF.

    .........

    The "moral hazard" issue comes up when we look at the folks
    who "knowingly agreed" to the listing terms, and THEN leave
    low stars after the agreement is made.

    My personal record on "consumer protection" is clear, BUT a
    part of me wants INFORMED buyers to assume some responsibility
    for FREELY choosing to do biznez with bad guys and then complaining
    about it.

    idunno the correct answer.



    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.......BUT a
    part of me wants INFORMED buyers to assume some responsibility
    for FREELY choosing to do biznez with bad guys and then complaining
    about it............. >>



    I freely did business with them and I freely paid the high shipping AND insurance. Just don't tell me how many stars to leave you. I may accept a sellers stated terms but I do not have to like them.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Nam. Just accepting the terms and paying the SH charge shouldn't automatically warrant leaving 5 stars.

    If I get a package, and I don't think the SH charge that the seller posted in the auction was fair, then I will leave less than 5 stars for the SH.

    If I paid enough SH for a bubble mailer and delivery confirmation, and I get a top loader in a PWE, then I make my decision on how many stars to give.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...I may accept a sellers stated terms but I do not have to like them. ..."

    //////////////////////

    I think that is probably the correct answer.

    On EBAY, buyers are entitled to leave FB/stars based on their OWN
    perceptions of what the WHOLE transaction was like.



    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are a lot of unreasonable buyer on eBay that will overcharged on shipping and hit the seller over the head on all 4 categories just because they are mad about the shipping charges. I can be overcharged on shipping and leave a 5, 5, 5, 3 because I try to be look at each individual category objectively.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i charge 2-2.50 flat once and thats it, beacuse im a cool old guyimage
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...because I try to look at each individual category objectively. >>'

    /////////////////////

    Yup.

    Because MANY folks don't look at it that way, it is ALWAYS a mistake
    to gouge on shipping. Unless you accept that you may get low stars
    in other unrelated categories as payback.

    ............................

    Under the current circumstances, I see little reason that - on BINs -
    sellers should not get with the "FREE" shipping scheme. The ONLY
    minor challenge is making folks NOT leave a 3 because they think it
    doesn't apply. (Sellers worried about EBAY collecting FVFs on S+H
    can simply raise their prices a tad to cover that.)

    Search standing is bumped, and you get a "free" subtitle until the
    end of the year.

    And, most important to me, I don't have to listen to folks complain
    about the post oiffice charging money to mail stuff.


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>.......BUT a
    part of me wants INFORMED buyers to assume some responsibility
    for FREELY choosing to do biznez with bad guys and then complaining
    about it............. >>



    I freely did business with them and I freely paid the high shipping AND insurance. Just don't tell me how many stars to leave you. I may accept a sellers stated terms but I do not have to like them. >>



    I wholeheartedly agree.
    image


  • Why do the members here think $5.00 shipping is crazy, but defend your hero Steve at Baseball Card Exchange when he charges $8.00 to ship 1 graded card through Ebay. I guess love is blind.
  • I found that the shipping on a couple cards I purchased was real slow with excessive shipping charges to boot. I personally thought mine was a 2 star transaction.
  • goyegoye Posts: 454 ✭✭


    << <i>Why do the members here think $5.00 shipping is crazy, but defend your hero Steve at Baseball Card Exchange when he charges $8.00 to ship 1 graded card through Ebay. I guess love is blind. >>



    Linky please.........
    1985-86 O Pee Chee PSA 910 Hockey
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Shipping for this item will be $5.00 USPS Insured Mail. Additional items won from this weeks ebay auctions may be combined to save shipping charges.
    Check out our other auctions for more great unopened material!!

    Thanks, Baseball Card Exchange!!!



    Care to retract your obviously wrong statement?


    With his overhead one could say that 5.00 is reasonable.

    It is when joe Schmoe ebay seller charges 5.00
    Then states 1.00 each additional.....


    Also it should be noted that Steve Hart insures everyone of his packages.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always had excellent dealing with both Leighton and Scott, but their shipping charges have always been high, IMO. They have an auction house approach to their auctions, as their shipping charges are higher than average on ebay, and 5 stars is definitely NOT what they would deserve for shipping an item like the one Nick described. On the other hand, Steve Hart charges $8 to ship a single graded pack, too, which is also high, though he will add multiple auction items for just one shipping charge. I have no problem really with higher shipping charges if the shipping is done professionally and secure (as both Steve and Just Collect both do) as long as the charges are stated up front.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • No Steve, I do not wish to retract my statement, because it is correct.

    Item # 250314136621 Insured shipping for this item will be $8.00.

    item # 250314136662 Insured shipping for this item will be $7.00.

    item # 140277318998 Shipping for this item will be $10.00 UPS Insured.

    item # 250309943144 Shipping for this item will be $8.00 UPS Insured.

    item # 250309945246 Shipping for this item will be $15.00 UPS Insured.

    item # 110303784067 A $3.25 card, yet he wants $5.00 to ship it? That card could be shipped for under $1.50. Multiply this profit times his hundreds of auctions and you have a very nice extra little income.

    How about $8.00 to ship 25 raw cards that sold for $7.00? item # 110300497224 This is on the verge of being a Ripoff!

    I bought a Don Sutton card for $11.44 and paid $8.00 to ship. Could have been $7.00. It was a while ago. I needed the card and factored the shipping into my bid. I do not remember the exact cost of shipping my card, but it was not even close to $8.00. It was shipped as a first class package in a bubble mailer, not even priority.

    I understand that he buys the insurance on cards and must recover that cost, but why not offer the buyer of buyer of the $3.25 card the choice not to insure the package. Is anybody going to go through the trouble of filing a claim through the post office for $3, 5 or $7.00? Not me.

    I just find it kind of odd that members defend this seller by saying he has a high overhead. Is that a reason to make money on the shipping? If he has a high overhead, start your opening bids at $5.99 and charge actual shipping charges. Yet these same members bash other sellers who charge $3.50 to ship a card. At least 4 sharp corners ships my cards in a 400 count box for $4.00.

    I have seen members of this board bash other members who dare to question this seller. I was called all kinds of names the first time I questioned this seller. Your blind following is just a little scary, a little bit of objectivity might go a long way. I am not alone in these feelings, Steve Hart is at a 4.7 DSR for Shipping and Handling Charges.

    I remember when this board was enjoyable and looked out for members. Have a wonderful day and be sure to support your favorite seller.


  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    To me, getting charged $5 with insurance included is not outrageous. If you back out the insurance which is $1.70 for under $50 of coverage, the actual shipping is $3.30 and that amount to me is very fair and reasonable.

    Of course packaging comes into play with shipping costs.

    Many sellers charge between $3-5 and package their items poorly in my opinion.

    I don't mind paying $4 for uninsured shipping (with insurance optional) if the packaging is done well and the item is sent securely.
    I'm talking cards here only. I honestly don't mind sellers making a small profit on the shipping, but I may be the exception to this.

    To me shipping is more than postage and a padded mailer. Driving to the post office, possible employee costs, insurance, ebay fee's, paypal fee's, taxes, electricity used, paper for the invoice, inkjet costs, packaging materials...... these are all costs when doing business. I don't expect these things for free.

    I realize some buyers that are new to ebay may not clearly understand the workings of the DSR's, but to ask a buyer to leave them 5 stars on a transaction is kind of sleazy. That's like begging someone to say thank you. Sounds desperate.


    Just Rip You off were charging $5.25 for one item, plus forcing you to buy the insurance. To me that's too high. On top of that, they would also spam your feedback profile. They also use to hold feedback hostage prior to ebay's changes with the feedback system.

    I no longer bid with them because they blocked me from bidding on their ebay auctions after I politely asked them to not spam my feedback with their contact number (a clear ebay abuse violation).
    So their sales tactics no longer annoy me becaus they no longer get my bids or business.

    They've also cost many of their consignors money by blocking my bids, as I bid on at least 20 diff. PSA sets I'm working on building.
    Not the smartest business decision.

    I find it hilarious that now they spam you for 5 stars and had to hold a special shipping sale for October in order to get their DSR ratings boosted. Below 4.3 and you can get bounced. That's a shame.

    Rich
  • Moo
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