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1884,1885,1886 V Nickels, buy the proofs or MS??
TexasNationals
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Should I buy the proofs, say in 65 or the MS coins in 65 to complete a set. Could be a mixed set, I personally don't care, what are your thoughts. Thinking of building a set and all my grey sheets and books are packed in storage for moving, but I have a decent idea of pricing if my memory serves correctly. What about log term appreciation in value? Any coins truly a killer, I know the 1894 can be tougher.
Your thoughts??
Your thoughts??
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-Paul
<< <i>Much tougher in MS.
-Paul >>
About 5 - 10 times tougher (tougher meaning more expensive)
I had a complete set of MS Lib nickels that I sold off back in 2001 (I think). It was a great set to work on.
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proof coinage can be stunning in it's crisp and sharpness
a fraction like 1/5 on the 1885 leaves not much to think about
shoot cam's aren't even that bad and the coins are for your eyes/enjoyment so nothing like cameos to catch that
"something to enjoy"
i'd bet a quarter too that cameos maybe be sleepers that could out shadow high ms
The only time I saw a proof in a MS holder, the coins was graded by PCGS.
It will be tougher but worth it, especially when it comes time to sell.
I looked long and hard before I found my 1885, 1886 and 1912-S in PCGS MS64.
Good luck and enjoy the hunt!!!
<< <i>MS all the way!
It will be tougher but worth it, especially when it comes time to sell.
I looked long and hard before I found my 1885, 1886 and 1912-S in PCGS MS64.
Good luck and enjoy the hunt!!! >>
You could find all the Proofs in one day, hardly a challenge if you have some money. Go for the MS coins!
<< <i>Should I buy the proofs, say in 65 or the MS coins in 65 to complete a set. Could be a mixed set, I personally don't care, what are your thoughts. Thinking of building a set and all my grey sheets and books are packed in storage for moving, but I have a decent idea of pricing if my memory serves correctly. What about log term appreciation in value? Any coins truly a killer, I know the 1894 can be tougher.
Your thoughts?? >>
It's about time the 1894 gets some RESPECT! In our target grade we've bought every one that we've come across and liked and that equates to -- 1 coin in MS-64. In MS-65 it seems to be a little easier to find.
As for the keys, if you truly don't mind getting proofs for them, go that route. In MS-65, nice for the grade 1885 and 1886 nickels will cost you a huge premium over pf-65. Even in Cameo they are much cheaper and look pretty darn nice! Here's a coin we picked up for our proof set, it's a 65-cameo, and was less than half the price of our MS-64 example of the date! However, I do agree with Sunnywood that a completely MS set will look much nicer and match much better than a set that has a few proofs mixed in. Also, like Sunnywood mentioned, it is not common to interchange proofs and MS coins like in past times.
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Proof 63CAMs for the keys...
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In most mint state grades, the 1885 is significantly more rare than the 1912-S. In the highest mint state grades, the 1886 beats the 1885, so it is more of a mint state CONDITION RARITY. Big deal. The 86 is scarcer in the highest grades because of strike issues and poor luster. The 12-S is a lackluster striking disaster, so again, the highest grades are scarce. However, I'll take an MS-63 or MS-64 1885 any day over an 86 or 12-S in the same grades. Just my humble opinion.
I've always thought the 1885 was underrated for years, but now is finally where it should be.
In terms of mint state vs. proof, I'd go with a mint state 63 or 64 set. A complete proof set with the MS 12-D and 12-S is much easier, but very attractive as well. If proofs are your thing, I'd shoot for the Pr-65 or PR-66 grades. Personally, I believe the mint state set has greater investment potential, if that's what you're after.
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I only have a few MS and PR "V" Nickels - and I can tell you the MS material is far more expensive than the PR.
If you want a superb strike go with the PR - not all the MS coins are perfectly struck.
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TexasNationals: <<1885,1886 V Nickels, buy the proofs or MS?? … Could be a mixed set, I personally don't care, what are your thoughts.>>
I address this very issue in an article that was published yesterday:
Liberty Nickels, Part 2, Uncirculated Coins
Moreover, I discuss the general concept of mixing business strikes and Proofs in the same sets in other articles. The traditional approach is to prefer Proofs to business strikes and to include both in sets of each type. Starting in the 1970s, a significant number of collectors began to view Proofs and business strikes as different species that cannot co-exist in the same sets. The new approach is to segregate them. I am partial to the traditional approach. I mention the Eliasberg and Norweb collections in my relevant discussions:
The Controversy over 1841 Quarter Eagles, Part 1
All-Time Greatest Collection of Barber Half Dollars, Part 2
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