I missed this post the first two times around. Although I have not been to SF for 25+ years, when I do go again someday, I'll have to look up that bank. Very interesting !!
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Thank you for pulling this from the basement! This is a great post, very informative and I had no idea this was in San Francisco! >>
+1. I've been in SF a couple times (absolutely fell in love with it) and didn't know they had such an interesting bank museum. I'll most definitely have to check it out next time I'm over there. Thanks for writing this up, Dennis!
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Wow, great thread and photos Dennis! Definitely the post of the weekend for me - even if it's an oldie! All that territorial gold together in one place with the PanPac set is a treat!
Great post. Thanks Capt for bringing it back. I joined this great site after this post was originated. I live only 15 miles away and did not knw about it. Certainly will visit it soon!
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The Dubosq dies were made by Longacre, as discussed in a different thread here some time ago. Here's another splasher.
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Dennis, I'm curious. Were you the only one there? Did you have to ask to see the museum, and have somebody open it up for you? Or were you able to just wander down there? Seems like a very cool, unknown little exhibit!
When I visited all I had to do was tell the security guard inside the bank entrance that I wanted to visit the museum. He said ok and I just walked down the stairs and had the whole place to myself. It was great.
<< <i>When I visited all I had to do was tell the security guard inside the bank entrance that I wanted to visit the museum. He said ok and I just walked down the stairs and had the whole place to myself. It was great. >>
That does sound great. A great way to enjoy some coins.
Wow...I didn't even know this thread was revived back in June and that it was featured in the E-Sylum (and I'm a subscriber...shame on me).
This visit was back in the summer of 2008 during my first visit to the US...in January of 2011 I moved to Northern California and even though I've visited San Francisco plenty of times since then I never made it back again (shame on me part 2).
On a sidenote, some of the pictures were featured in Karl Moulton's book on John J Ford and the Franklin Hoard...and shame on me, part 3, I haven't purchased it yet.
But it was fun to read this thread again, and thanks for all the kind comments for the past 5 years. I should print this one just for grabs one day.
There are a couple of other places of interest in the area:
The first San Francisco Mint was open from 1854 to 1874 at 608 Commercial Street near Montgomery Street. The building was previously used by Moffat & Company, a private mint and assay office. There is a small mint museum in the basement of the building with some replica ore carts and bags
If anyone is interested in a great read that expertly exposes the seedy underbelly of Numismatics as it pertains to Territorial Gold, Karl Moulton's book, "John J. Ford and the Franklin Hoard", is exceptional.
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<< <i>If anyone is interested in a great read that expertly exposes the seedy underbelly of Numismatics as it pertains to Territorial Gold, Karl Moulton's book, "John J. Ford and the Franklin Hoard", is exceptional. >>
Based on some of the images posted in the beginning of this thread, there is a very good reason why BigMoose posted what he did.
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I posted my recommendation of this place in the newer thread. Missed this older thread before, but I've been to this museum many times and it's always a treat. This is the first time I'd read of the John Ford provenance of some of the items. Thanks for reposting.
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Thank you for pulling this from the basement! This is a great post, very informative and I had no idea this was in San Francisco!
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Although I have not been to SF for 25+ years,
when I do go again someday, I'll have to look
up that bank. Very interesting !!
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Thank you for pulling this from the basement! This is a great post, very informative and I had no idea this was in San Francisco!
+1. I've been in SF a couple times (absolutely fell in love with it) and didn't know they had such an interesting bank museum. I'll most definitely have to check it out next time I'm over there. Thanks for writing this up, Dennis!
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An extract of this thread (including some pictures) was included in tonight's E-Sylum, the free weekly e-mail newsletter from the Numismatic Bibliomania Society.
Congratulations to Dennis for creating the thread and thanks to CaptHenway for bringing it to the top where it could be enjoyed once again!
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<< <i>Speaking of counterfeits, the 1853 USAOG $20 "Proof" is one of the recently condemned "Transfer Die Forgeries".
The 999 Fine Humbert "Proofing" ingot is also a forgery, along with the Eagle Mining gold bar.
Many of the items in the Bank of California display are pieces that either came from, or were owned, by John Ford. >>
Are the transfer die strikes from John Ford? Was he involved in their creation?
Do we know where those transfer dies are? Seems like an interesting story to be had!
Thanks Capt for bringing it back.
I joined this great site after this post was originated.
I live only 15 miles away and did not knw about it.
Certainly will visit it soon!
Ford defended these as originals throughout his career, but he didn't make the dies.
More about this interaction can be found in my new book, "John J Ford, Jr. and the Franklin Hoard".
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The Dubosq dies were made by Longacre, as discussed in a different thread here some time ago. Here's another splasher.
Wow! Incredible history in that small room! That's what makes this hobby so interesting....
<< <i>When I visited all I had to do was tell the security guard inside the bank entrance that I wanted to visit the museum. He said ok and I just walked down the stairs and had the whole place to myself. It was great. >>
That does sound great. A great way to enjoy some coins.
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I visited the bank on Tuesday June 11.
I especially liked the Mormon coins, including this one:
Utah Mormon $5 gold coin with lion and Mormon alphabet
I am not sure if this was posted before, but the museum is open during banking hours
and there is no admission charge.
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This visit was back in the summer of 2008 during my first visit to the US...in January of 2011 I moved to Northern California and even though I've visited San Francisco plenty of times since then I never made it back again (shame on me part 2).
On a sidenote, some of the pictures were featured in Karl Moulton's book on John J Ford and the Franklin Hoard...and shame on me, part 3, I haven't purchased it yet.
But it was fun to read this thread again, and thanks for all the kind comments for the past 5 years. I should print this one just for grabs one day.
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For FadeToBlack's perusal in connection with his upcoming trip to SF.
The first San Francisco Mint was open from 1854 to 1874 at 608 Commercial Street near Montgomery Street.
The building was previously used by Moffat & Company, a private mint and assay office.
There is a small mint museum in the basement of the building with some replica ore carts and bags
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The former gold rush Bank of Lucas, Turner and Company (now an office building) at 800 Montgomery Street at Jackson.
This bank ran from 1854 to 1857 and was managed by one of California's more colorful gold rush characters, William T. Sherman.
Sherman wrote an autobiography and mentioned the thousands of dollars in gold which were kept at his bank.
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<< <i>If anyone is interested in a great read that expertly exposes the seedy underbelly of Numismatics as it pertains to Territorial Gold, Karl Moulton's book, "John J. Ford and the Franklin Hoard", is exceptional. >>
Based on some of the images posted in the beginning of this thread, there is a very good reason why BigMoose posted what he did.