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micmtmicmt Posts: 671
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Ok so the seller sounds a bit....goofy.

Rare silver penny 1984 printing errors, off color


Ebay auction link
"One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne

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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I think it's an unplated cent, but I'm not sure. Pretty cool though.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭
    Impossible to tell from those photos in my opinion. If I were going to wager, I would guess it's plated.

    -Paul
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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034 ✭
    All you have to do is remove the plating. No big whoop. These people are nuts and so caught up in themselves with their "friend of a friend" crap.
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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Can't tell for sure but it could have had the plating removed.

    If it's a real non plated planchet error the seller should have had it slabbed, if not only gamblers will bid.

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    Ed
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea, but I do think the group shot with the "regular" pennies looks pretty cool.
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Intresting... Appears to be just a zinc cent without it's copper coat.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Line errors.

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    That one belongs in the "Cynic's Numismatic Definitions" thread...


    "Line Errors" - "A good strong wipe with an abrasive cloth"
  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    Thanks for the thoughts......I was thinking that its just missing the clad but the seller is trying to make it out to be some super rare experimental piece. Thought those were only struck in 74 though. If it were plated would the details be a little more washed out?
    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    I can make a penny look that color.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I think if you leave a zincoln in ezEst long enough, this is what you will get. No more copper.

    My guess is that it was stripped chemically rather than plated. Then the 'line errors' were added.
  • CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712
    When I was a kid, my Dad took me to the The Boy Scout World Headquarters in Dallas. One of the benefits of going was that you got to put a Lincoln cent in a bowl of silver solution and it turned you penny silver. Then you got to take the silver penny with you as a souvenir. That cent looks exactly like the one I got from BSA headquarters.
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  • BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803 ✭
    Glad this topic was brought up !

    I have a 1956-D cent that "appears" to be silver ?

    Under a 20x loupe the coin shows no telltale signs of plating wearing off, but the coin has wear..

    In the past I've read about plating coins with Mercury, but wouldn't that rub off ?

    puzzled
  • commoncents123commoncents123 Posts: 2,648 ✭
    I've seen this before...there is a certain chemical that if you burn the coin in the flame of this chemical it changes color
  • CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712


    << <i>Glad this topic was brought up !

    I have a 1956-D cent that "appears" to be silver ?

    Under a 20x loupe the coin shows no telltale signs of plating wearing off, but the coin has wear..

    In the past I've read about plating coins with Mercury, but wouldn't that rub off ?

    puzzled >>


    I don't remember what the solution was that the BSA used. It was the late 70's.
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  • SottySotty Posts: 373 ✭
    Put any 83-present cent on a hot plate for a fewv hours and the cent will lose its copper plating.
  • OpusOpus Posts: 282 ✭
    When it is dropped it sounds slightly different than a regular penny

    This is what I do to test my *rare* coins.

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    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"
  • CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712


    << <i>When it is dropped it sounds slightly different than a regular penny

    This is what I do to test my *rare* coins.

    image >>


    SaintGuru throws his at a cigar table.
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    It doesn't have the dull look of a cent that had the copper plating removed by acid, or the overall shiny Proof look of a post mint plate job, looks like mint luster so I'll say it's most likely struck on an unplated planchet.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    SaintGuru throws his at a cigar table.

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    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    OK so how many forum members bid on this after I posted it here on the board?

    Just curious.
    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
  • CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712
    I wish his image was bigger. I can't believe that it's at $80.+.
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  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>When it is dropped it sounds slightly different than a regular penny

    This is what I do to test my *rare* coins.

    image >>


    SaintGuru throws his at a cigar table. >>




    image too funny!!!

    i work in a plating shop, i`ll dig around for an `84-D and plate it tomorrow if i get the time. i`ll try to make it look "just like" that oneimage

    the OP should weigh it and if much different than normal it should be sent to pcgs.
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  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    Coinman...that would be awesome. Maybe I have not been around enough to see a plated cent but I think it would be a interesting.

    And no my max bid on this was around 20% of what it went for. If i did win and my wife found out I might be able to explain away 20 bucks...not the 85 or whatever it did sell for.
    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭


    << <i>Coinman...that would be awesome. Maybe I have not been around enough to see a plated cent but I think it would be a interesting.

    And no my max bid on this was around 20% of what it went for. If i did win and my wife found out I might be able to explain away 20 bucks...not the 85 or whatever it did sell for. >>




    i forgot it was an ebay auction and not your coin.

    there are plating shops all over the country and i`m sure people plate coins all the time.

    if the plating was done well it can be difficult to tell if its a different base metal or just plated.


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  • OpusOpus Posts: 282 ✭
    Purchased by .....

    mattscoinsandautoparts

    Interesting Ebay name.
    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    I have to confess, I had a snipe bid in and canceled with less then 1 minute to go...I like stuff like this........but I thought what the heck would I do with it...
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    I don't think that coin is plated unless the seller had a very fine beamed light for their photography


    the coin clearly shows luster with the light reflection

    - luster disappears with acid etching
    - luster disappears with plating



    the coin was most likely struck with dies
    - with what as a planchett and by whom or where are the unknowns


    It would be interesting to get a thickness and an exact weight on the coin
    to determine if foreign planchett or zinc w/o copper cover


    I have seen the planchet streaks (parallel lines) on war nickels


    PS - I was an underbidder

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    - Bob -

    MPL's - Lincolns of Colorimage
    Central Valley Roosevelts

  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭
    here goes... i plated a 1984 lincoln and 4 2008 lincolns. one is silver, one is "flashed" with nickel so it would not get too bright and shiny. the other 3 are plated with a zinc alloy. all have some degree of luster. if i plated them longer they would "brighten" and look more prooflike(without cameos obviously). just wanted to post this to show how easy it is to fake things. BTW i got a roosie in change that looks copper color, threw it in my "junk box". what are my chances of getting a roosie with BOTH clad layers missing? my point is the chance of getting a true error is very small and the fakes are floating around out there.

    for all i know the one in the auction could be a true error, it would have to be authenticated before i bid.

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  • CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712
    Thanks for all the work and the photos.
    imageimage
  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭


    << <i>Thanks for all the work and the photos. >>



    your welcomeimage
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  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    The plating looks good and no loss of details it seems on your plating. The luster is just about right also just like in the auction.

    But thanks for the photos.
    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    5x$80=$400 You'll be rich.image
    Becky
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice work Coinman... so many fakes out there... whether it be AT or plating etc... and people continue to be conned.. so sad.. Cheers, RickO
  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭


    << <i>5x$80=$400 You'll be rich.image >>



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    in my work environment i can`t help experimenting.... i just cannot see listing something i messed with on ebay.

    anybody want to buy one of theseimage

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    JK
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    wow coinman - you have the photos ready for eBay and everything



    description ->

    my friend found these in a roll of pennies and wants me to sell them - we don't know but think they could be platinum
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    in my work environment i can`t help experimenting.... i just cannot see listing something i messed with on ebay.

    Same here......could probably make a lot of $$ but not worth it in the long run.

    Check this out from a little experiment 2 years ago.....

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>in my work environment i can`t help experimenting.... i just cannot see listing something i messed with on ebay.

    Same here......could probably make a lot of $$ but not worth it in the long run.

    Check this out from a little experiment 2 years ago.....

    image >>



    Oh man -- that looks cool.

    I like the way the flowers came out!
    John Agre

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is one that went wrong way wrong. imageimage


    Hoard the keys.
  • BXBOY143BXBOY143 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭
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    https://m.ebay.com.my/myebay?mfs=tabs&actionName=SELL_OVERVIEW
  • nycounselnycounsel Posts: 1,229 ✭✭
    coinman420 -- excellent work, thanks for sharing!
    Dan
  • sanitarium1inmatesanitarium1inmate Posts: 1,078 ✭✭
    "Oh my gosh, I wonder if that's what this is. Aluminum sounds about right. If I had known I may have listed it higher."

    Do I really think this person is that dumb to coins? NO
    In the time of Chimpanzee's
    I was a Monkey

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