I'm all for pandering to the sticker-lovers, but I don't think it's right to predict stickeredness i

Longacre

I was taking a look at an auction catalog, and this coin caught my eye. At first, I was shocked that the coin did not have a sticker. Then I read the description in which the cataloger gives a nearly 100% prediction that the coin will garner the coveted sticker. Now I am all for pandering to the sticker lovers, but I am not sure if predicting sticker-worthiness is something that should be done in an auction catalog. Here is the description. What do you think of the use of sticker frenzy in the staid world of auction cataloging?

"1898 Proof-68 (NGC).

A rich display of intense electric blue and vibrant rose iridescence brings incredible life to the frosted motifs and mirrored fields of this outstanding Proof Morgan dollar. The strike is crisp, as expected, and the surfaces are immaculate to say the least—small wonder NGC ranks the present beauty among the finest Proofs of the date to come under their discriminating eye since the inception of that firm. From a Proof mintage for the date of 735 pieces. It's an absolutely safe bet that this beauty will receive a CAC sticker soon!

NGC Census: 8; 1 finer within the designation (Proof-69)."

RyGuy

Are they indicating to the buyer that it will surely sticker if bought and submitted or that it is currently sent in for stickering and they are pretty much expecting it to come back with one? I understand what you are saying, but I took it as two different ways.

Nonetheless, I don't think something like that should be included in the listing, so I'm with you on this.

Ryan

dorkkarl

it is a shockingly stupid "coin" description

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adamlaneus

To be fair, i'd say that 'vibrant' is more of a stretch.

Submit that coin enough and it's probably sure to eventually get a sticker. (*sigh*)

Vibrant? No.

I'm not saying it is not pretty. But the puffery in the catalog is, as usual, bothersome.

fc

it appears the description writer is a boob and not representative of other
better writers.

rgCoinGuy

Stickeredness is next to Nerdedness.

messydesk

Having read another thread recently about 19th century proof silver upgrading by as many as 3 points by being crossed from PCGS to NGC, I am skeptical of the writer's claim.

nicetoning42107

So now we are predicting stickerdness? Now we are saying coins are high end for the grade and should receive the sticker as such? Wait a minute. . .wasn't that what it was all about in the first place before the stickers? . . . Being high end for the grade?

jmski52

It looks jmski-ness to me! Nice coin.

RWB

Auction companies (of all types, not just coins) have been leading and misleading potential buyers for generations. They plant suggestions, offer evasive explanations, invent stories and on the whole do whatever they can to “goose” the hammer price. Why should it be different when it comes to adding smiley faces to the plastic slab?

[Disclaimer. I bid on this coin.]

ElKevvo

Really nice coin....what it indicates to me is the auction company does not have the knowledge in house to decide 'Solid for the Grade' etc. and just the presence of a sticker adds value which IMO it should not...especially for the solid ones...that to me just means the TPG graded it correctly.

The presence of a sticker should not add any value to the coin but in the real world the stickers are marketed as the next best thing and adding one often boosts the value...

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TwoSides2aCoin

He said, she said so it gets watered down that anyone can say it, but who did it in the first place ?

Coinosaurus

Auction houses have been identifying "upgrade candidates" for a long time - commenting on whether something is "sticker worthy" is pretty much the same thing, IMHO.

mgoodm3

We need a sticker to suggest that a coin is worthy of a sticker.

dorkkarl

maybe start stickering auction catalogs that are worthy?

K S

CoinJunkie

That's just modern lingo for "PQ".

Edited to add:

Upon further reflection, using the phrase "absolutely safe bet" does cross the hype line.

TwoSides2aCoin

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I'm just wondering who would crack it out and stick it in their Dansco 7070. Or..
Submit it to PCGS and CROSS it at any grade... Or does it matter ? It's just a dollar About $9 worth in silver.

BXBOY143

THAT IS A DESCRIPTION I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ON EBAY!

BECOKA

Personally I think that is wrong. They should back up their statement and just send it into get stickered. Now they can advertise it has a sticker or it just missed it by a nick.

abitofthisabitofthat

IMO, on a coin like this, in PF68, if it could have crossed, it would already be in a PC holder. If it could have stickered, it would probably have one already.

thisnamztaken

I care as little about stickered slabs as I do about starred slabs. Either I agree with the assigned grade or I don't, and either it has "star-worthy" eye appeal to me personally or it doesn't. It's my own opinion of the coin that matters when it comes to spending my hard-earned money for my collection. Of course, I'm not a dealer either. I can understand how coin dealers may find stickers and stars useful in turning a profit.

To me, green stickers on slabs are akin to all those advertising logos covering race cars; they are just superfluous, distracting, clutter.

anablep

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lasvegasteddy

ya know

some are quick to proclaim sticker worthiness but few proclaim if they are not ( to mark feld as he calls um both ways)

to me it's like 4th level grading now

graders call a grade
owners grade the grade
stickers stick it to some

now owners are sticking it to the sticker stucks

a039

Is it possible that CAC is judging coins as "solid for the grade" as grade is judged by different TPG's? In other words, this coin grade is solid by what would be expected from NGC.

Elcontador

I don't collect PF $s. Is that toning genuine? If it was a business strike, I wouldn't go near it. OTOH, I know that some PF coins -- like IHCs and Liberty Nickels -- were sometimes put in sulfur laden tissue.