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Elizabeth Monroe FS Gold a sleeper??

RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
The Monroe First Spouse coin has been out since Feb. with very low sales, esp. in UNC. The Jackie Unc., at with a mintage of 5174 is currently the king of modern proofs in terms of mintage. Will the Monroe take it's title? What do you think?
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  • Do you have the mint's data on how many units have been sold thus far?
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭
    what do you expect the timeline to be for it to go from a sleeper
    to a key of some sort? 20 years?
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on how many were struck and how long the Mint continues to sell them. Some coins have been kept on sale for years.


  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Depends on how many were struck and how long the Mint continues to sell them. Some coins have been kept on sale for years. >>



    I read on a previous post here that the mint said each coin would be on sale until sold out or for a maximum of one year. I'll see if I can find the post. If true, that would mean the Dolley Madison should stop being sold in November and the Monroe in February I think.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have the mint's data on how many units have been sold thus far? >>



    I'm at work, and will be here all night. I don't have my latest NN here. What are the latest sales fugures for these? Anyone have an NN handy to check? Thanks.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭



    all of the FS coins put me to sleep, sorry.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭


    << <i>all of the FS coins put me to sleep, sorry.

    -wes >>



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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>what do you expect the timeline to be for it to go from a sleeper
    to a key of some sort? 20 years? >>



    I believe its "key" status would be determined whenever the series ends. How much
    that will ultimately effect relative pricing to the common coins could take some years,
    as evidenced by the Jackie Robinson $5 Unc coin.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the hags to start having keys, would mean that people are really collecting them. The market is very small, and unlikely to ever develop into a full blown collectors pursuit. Very, Very narrow market.... not worth the time or investment. Cheers, RickO
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For the hags to start having keys, would mean that people are really collecting them. The market is very small, and unlikely to ever develop into a full blown collectors pursuit. Very, Very narrow market.... not worth the time or investment. Cheers, RickO >>



    Hi RickO-

    Given that the #s so far for the Monore coin numbers are so low, esp. since it's been out since Feb. I thought that it, or likely another FS, might come in lower in the end than the Jackie UNC.

    The Jackie Unc. of course had such low #s because no one wanted to buy it despite an extended selling period. I would assume that if a FS ended up with lower #s than the Jackie that, given the it was now THE lowest mintage modern commem., in time it would really appreciate, just like the Jackie Unc.
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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The potential for this series is the gold content. I'm sure the series has a narrow collector base now because it's overpriced and the designs aren't great. But they may draw attention sometime down the line depending on what happens to gold.
  • I like this one...

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  • Not relevant. Different series as well as different set of collectors. commemoratives versus bullion (unpoplular bullion at that)
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Raufus...
    Not sure the comparison is relevant.... this is a new series (not a one shot), that is not only disliked but way undercollected. Certainly, it is also overpriced. While the Jackie coin had a certain attraction, given it was a sports figure, and an ethnic fascination as well, the hags - any of them - have nothing to warrant interest other than 'maybe' a low mintage and their PM content. Few collectors care. However, good luck, go with it if you have a hunch... Cheers, RickO
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like this one... >>



    I don't. Too much text and the rendering of the devices is just OK.
    I have the same complaint about the Jefferson coin, especially
    the reverse.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Jackie Unc. of course had such low #s because no one wanted to buy it despite an extended selling period. I would assume that if a FS ended up with lower #s than the Jackie that, given the it was now THE lowest mintage modern commem., in time it would really appreciate, just like the Jackie Unc.

    I suspect the Jackie unc. gold is overpriced at $4000+. Last night, a 2006-W unc. $25 Platinum Eagle with half the mintage of the Jackie (2,676) sold on eBay for $416. Also, the lowest mintage commem silver dollar, the 1996-D Wheelchair Athlete, sells for only around $300. It has three times the mintage of the Jackie, but modern commem silver probably has at least three times the collector base of modern commem gold, due to affordability.

  • You can`t go to far wrong. If the dem`s win the white House, these will melt for $ 2,000.00+ each!!!!

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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I like this one... >>



    I don't. Too much text and the rendering of the devices is just OK.
    I have the same complaint about the Jefferson coin, especially
    the reverse. >>



    i do but agree with you nonetheless

    and i don't think this series will do much besides bullion.
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not relevant. Different series as well as different set of collectors. commemoratives versus bullion (unpoplular bullion at that) >>



    Generally, I agree, although there are a fair number of people who consider modern gold commems
    to be glorified "bullion".

    Also, the PCGS pop report classifies the Spouse coins as commems. All I know is I wish eBay
    had a separate category for them!

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