What looks "wrong" about the tone on this coin to you??

keets

I know what looks wrong to me, but tell me what you think just doesn't seem natural about the color on this Peace Dollar. Thanks.

Al H.

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um... peace dollars in general dont tone like this?

AUandAG

Well, my old eyes are tired of looking at that ugly bird. That coin has been cleaned (seen on the reverse
in the upper left from 9 to 12). It's also AT. I would suspect it was some kind of liquid toning that was
used but I'm not an expert on the "how to tone" methods. That horseshoe shaped arc on the obverse
is just plain impossible in the real world (someone will flame me on that statement).
Nice pick up for $8 if you can get it and then dip it and then spend it on something better!
bob

DRUNNER

I just can't look past the blatant misspellings in ebay listings. I figure if the header is misspelled, it must be AT.

Does anyone out there own a dictionary? How about a computer with 'SpellCheck'? Maybe live next door to a high school English teacher?

It seems that a requisite talent to making an ebay listing is to look like a 4th grade rube. Perhaps that is part of the set-up?

Sorry. Just a bit OT but I voted AT (Color flow appears liquid and repeats too often).

Drunner

adamlaneus

Where do I start.

Hm.

In general, yes it looks very odd and unnatural. But you want specifics.

I find it odd that it is toned most of the way around the edge, but one part of the edge is clean. In fact, on the reverse, there is a region that looks beyond clean...cleaned is the word I am looking for. The auction mentions this coin has not been cleaned. I doubt that.

It's as if the toning was done quickly and carefully and the coin was pulled from the toning box at 'just the right time' to get a bunch of repeating color bands. They didn't leave it in long enough to develop stronger or terminal colors.

Seems a little heavy on the green. That is a heck of a way to describe a silver coin, eh?

The pattern of the banding bothers me. It's a series of crescents following the shape of the clean patch.

What is natural about the color on this Peace Dollar? I'm sorry, I cannot answer that. It does not look like this coloring was attained 'by mistake' or 'naturally' to me. On the front of the coin, there is some very lightly toned warm looking areas. Some peace dollars i've seen have a little bit of that color, but typically around the rim. I'm struggling to find anything natural about this one.



Here's a morgan that was left in the toning box far too long on one side!

Link

fc

easter egg toning kit look to me.

TennesseeDave

The colors are nice,but I'm 100% positive that coin would never slab at Pcgs.If it were in a Pcgs slab it would bring moon money.

keets

what struck me is that the pattern, if NT from some toning agent, would never come from one direction on the obverse and another direction on the reverse!!!! strangely, i found this coin in the listings of the seller who has the page one MS65 1935 Walker in a PCGS holder, which i find an interesting coincidence.

DoubleEagle59

it's from the same seller that has the 1935 walking Liberty half, I think.

quite a few of his coins look a little funny to me.

CoinJunkie

Besides the fluorescent look of the colors, I think having multiple bands of the same color seems unnatural.

Connecticoin

Blatant Shake n Bake

LostSisler

Isn't that Tarn-X toning?

nicetoning42107

The color progression isn't quite right. Also the colors "float". Definite AT.

pheh

If the obverse were natural one would expect the reverse would have the opposite angle not the same angle as pictured.

That isn't to say this *can't* happen, I can imagine any number of scenarios of coin on coin layout where it could. But, yes, that is what struck me when I first pulled up the link as well.

19Lyds

First off, I find that the toned areas on the coin are to similar in shape. For that to have occurred, it would have to have been the baloney on a Peace Dollar sammich! Additionally, if that were to have happened, the toning would have been more abrupt in how it stops I would think.

Lastly, the shape on the obverse does not lend itself to matching any particular coin size.

coindeuce

What could be wrong about "Lipstick on a P-I-G"

NHSBaseball

Looks like the slick behind my 20 year old Evinrude...

ModernDollarNut

'tis an old saw but these colors climb over devices rather than showing layering with different colors at different reliefs. For me AT, period. Rob

Jsayre

I was thinking it was heated?

sonoranmonsoon

I am not very good at determining AT from NT, but as others stated; The repeated color bands were the first flag for me.

ColonialCoinUnion

<< <i>What looks "wrong" about the tone on this coin to you?? >>



Everything. The color, the pattern, the opacity, the fact that Peace Dollars don't tone like this, etc.

Steve27

The similar toning from obverse to reverse is the giveaway for me.

mr1931S

The so-called silky coin has "rainbow" toning.Most likely the toning has been artificially applied.A study of the progression of colors and showing the progression to be "wrong" might be in order for an ambitious student.

ricko

This is typical 'gas toning'...the coin is propped (not the best method by the way) in the container, and usually at an angle... the gas is introduced and tones the coin (except where it is 'propped')... that is why the pattern is wrong compared to NT progressive toning... Whenever you see these 'northern lights' type toned coins, it is done by wannabe doctors learning the trade. Someone will buy it .. and be very proud of it... poor fool.... Cheers, RickO

Dog97

It's not album, bag or holder toning so that makes it AT for me.

kryptonitecomics

All I had to see was the seller....all of his coins have the same colors and toning pattern.....1000% AT.....

eagle7

Well the lighting is certainly tricked because under normal lighting you dont see those small circles, four of them, near the corners of the PCGS slab. As for the toning on the Peace dollar, one never sees such toning in a PCGS slab so I would stay away from it. Come to think of it, ive never seen such toning in an NGC slab either. In fact, I haven't seen one raw that looks like that.

stman

"Probably just a bad image, and who cares if it's AT if it's pretty and you like it is all that matters." I learned that right here on these boards.

Look at those bands, and the green, put that on a Morgan$ and a bit better technique........ and in a slab...... ah, never mind.



Edit, and we can't tell anything from an image so all answers are not valid.

adamlaneus

There have been some gems in this thread.


I particularly liked the "Easter Egg Toning Kit" comment.

And the one about how it resembled an oil slick.

doh

Ugh that thing is ugly. Those colors aren't even close to natural. I like the guy's eBay handle: "Unique_n_toned." Yeah right.

RYK

Is that from the Battle Creek Collection?

micmt

But all in all the colors are pretty to look at. Whether its AT or NT I could not tell, thats better left to the experts on here. But I do agree that it looks like an oil slick