New ANACS "Gold" Label

kieferscoins

I stopped by ANACS this afternoon to pick up a submission and found out they just started using a new label today. Same slab type but many changes to the label...mostly the color and font.




Cameron Kiefer

coinkid855

It's not BAD but it makes it look a little cheap to me...



-Paul

GoldenEyeNumismatics

I liked blue better.

19Lyds

I suppose we'll have to go through another round of "Is this a Counterfeit ANACS Slab?" threads.

Also, I don't think I care for the color as well.

If they had put a background pattern to break that gold up, it might be more appealing.

relicsncoins

It's a symbol of the sun setting on Anacs if they keep changing stuff every other month.

JJ

BECOKA

While I don't like the color it does seem to make the copper color come out more on the Lincoln.

GrumpyEd

The only bad thing about their newer holders is the gromet/washer can stick to the plastic then it looks strange. I was happy with their grading and attributions on a recent submission.

I liked the blue labels better

BlindedByEgo

I don't like the color. It screams 70's burnt orange shag carpet

Coxe

It's yet another new day at ANACS. If they had to redesign the labeling, why didn't they restore the serial number to the front of the slab? I like to enter my TT wins in the database right away with the serial numbers but the new ANACS ones are on the backs and covered by the TT inventory tags.

JustaRookie

Blue was better. Maybe they should solicit there customer base for label designs and color. Wait a minute, if they did that then they would be giving the customer what they want and we can't have that now can we......

fc

not bad... but i feel it takes away from the coin. it is marketing themselves
over the coin. i want a label that does not draw attention away from
the coin and not used as an advertising opportunity.

just put your symbol and company name in a discrete area... as in
it should not be the first thing i see. that should be the coin. yellow
draws my eyes to it, that A shape, and then their company name.
grade and etc.. is dead last.

what i do like is the readability of the words on the insert though.
easy to read. easy on the eyes.

PerryHall

Why did they change it? Is this new slab more difficult to counterfeit?

kieferscoins

Same slab they have had for over a year. Just a different label.

Cameron Kiefer

DJCoinz

Definitely like blue better. Now it looks like a cheap self-slabber type slab.

adamlaneus

The color is woefully reminiscent of "Steve's Gift Shop" slabs...

PerryHall

<< <i>Same slab they have had for over a year. Just a different label.

Cameron Kiefer >>



What about the hologram? Looks different on the new slab.

kieferscoins

Same hologram as some of the blue label slabs I have.

Cameron Kiefer

braddick

The lower curved corners look different.

I like the insert and the font on it.

AU58WALKERS

Gold label...."lock upgrade"?

RYK

I do not care for ICGNACS.

golfer72

They should spend some time making their slabs stronger. They are flimsy. The label is a minor issue.

kieferscoins

<< <i>They should spend some time making their slabs stronger. They are flimsy. The label is a minor issue. >>



I sure can't crack their "new" (last year or so) holder at all with my hands like the previous design.

Old New holder that was flimsy:



Hew holder with blue label and now the yellow label.

Shamika

Hey, I love that 31-S.

coinman420

<< <i>

<< <i>They should spend some time making their slabs stronger. They are flimsy. The label is a minor issue. >>



I sure can't crack their "new" (last year or so) holder at all with my hands like the previous design.

Old New holder that was flimsy:



Hew holder with blue label and now the yellow label.

>>




i have bought only one off ebay in the new slab. it was to crack out for a dansco. before cracking it like i usually do with 2 pair of pliars i took a pocket knife to the seams and the slab came apart easier than a modern proof case!!!

scary that the plastic was not damaged and coin could be switched so easy.

RyGuy

Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan

NH484000

<< <i>Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan >>

MORGANHUNTER2

I am truly amazed at a few of you.

You knock a TPG because they change the 'color' of a label?

PCGS, NGC and ICGS have done this for years- but yet some of you fools have failed to look at the main item. Once againyou should be reminded that you are buying/selling the COIN!

You belittle a company that for the most part has been in existence long before a few of you were born, and the graders have more knowledge that you can possibly achieve in your life time- your not a collector- you I'm afraid to say are wannabees.

Kiefer was pointing out what a few see as a trend in the coin world- change..

it may keep the chinese a bit off kilter by doing this- hell our own government changes the design on paper because it is so friggin easy to reproduce. A greta copy machine can make upwards of 100's to 1000's of our infamous old paper money so well that idiots at the 7-11 have no clue if its real or not- they will take it in a heartbeat- its all about the money.

now dear wannabee collector- stop bashing why a company decides to change a color on a LABEL and look at the damn coin for once in your apathetic lives.

y'all worry me- you seem to be hypnotized on PCGS.

Edscoin

<< <i>Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan >>


No you are not the only one, and I think they are still the nicest slabs!

mozin

Months after ANACS changed to their holder with the rounded bottom, I made the big mistake of reholdering twenty of my very old ANACS slabs. Some of them even has the two letters before the numbers. ANACS said they would upgrade for free any reholder requests that deserved an upgrade. I picked out some of my very best for reholder. NONE of them had the grade change.

Now, I have twenty odd shaped slabs that do not fit in with my other slabs, and many of you avoid these slabs because they are so flimsy.

The new ANACS is a joke!

fc

while i enjoyed your rant morganhunter2, the topic of this thread
is about the new slab and its changes....

if this were a post about a coin and we all went off topic about the
new slab... well you may have a point.

also please note that this ANACS is not the old ANACS we used to
know. so the company name ANACS might be older then some here
it is just a name. A shell. New people are filling that shell.

as for the chinese... they have the ability to create fakes of everything. a minor change of any slab.. or even a whole new slab
will bother them in the most minute way. they create fakes of everything
and their whole economy basically revolves around it. feel free to google it.

and as for pcgs... i am not quite sure why you even mention the
koolaid factor. no where did i see people praising pcgs over anacs.
i could have missed a sentence though stating this.

but once again, nice rant. i enjoyed it.

MORGANHUNTER2

<< <i>while i enjoyed your rant morganhunter2, the topic of this thread
is about the new slab and its changes....

if this were a post about a coin and we all went off topic about the
new slab... well you may have a point.

also please note that this ANACS is not the old ANACS we used to
know. so the company name ANACS might be older then some here
it is just a name. A shell. New people are filling that shell.

as for the chinese... they have the ability to create fakes of everything. a minor change of any slab.. or even a whole new slab
will bother them in the most minute way. they create fakes of everything
and their whole economy basically revolves around it. feel free to google it.

and as for pcgs... i am not quite sure why you even mention the
koolaid factor. no where did i see people praising pcgs over anacs.
i could have missed a sentence though stating this.

but once again, nice rant. i enjoyed it. >>



I won't disagree that hands change in the grading room almost like underwear on a virgin, but I feel that Cammie was trying to make a simple point- and I interjected the all hail PCGS theme- its not the holder its in- look at the coin- is it what you as a collector want or are you in it to see if you can turn a buck from someones mistake? I personally look for the coin- I will only purchase what feels right in my bad eye- not the good one (it plays tricks on me). but some folks here look at what transpires within a company. To be honest- we all are chasing a dream, hoping one day we hit the King of rarities. Maybe one day a few of us might realize that we are better than the Kool aid boys and will accept it for what it is. All the TPG's are is a market -none have a hold over another- but y'all feel only one is better than the rest- and you have yet to see the light in front of you.

Remember this- a few of the "great graders" all worked for one of these TPG's at some point in time.....its all about the almighty buck my friends- MONEY.

Now please flame safely- because safety is no accident.....

jmj3esq

They are never going to get it quite right, are they?

Coinlearner

I just received 2 of the new ANACS slabs,with new labels. Mine are a special label First Release "tm" , look orange with large 2008 and eagle. The slab is almost exactly the same size as my PCGS slabs. Will make storing together a bit easier. My blue ANACS was a bit bulky,for me . Have some in the old small white slabs but thinking about doing some cross-overs . ..Anyway my PCGS ones are still my plastic of choice.

Coxe

<< <i>Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan >>



Definitely. They were more about the coin than a big chunk of plastic. Also the plastic seems to have held up pretty well over the years. They don't seem to be as scratched and scuffed up as the much more recent ICG and even the PCGS and NGC contemporary peers.

The smaller holders also, if the retail market wasn't biased against ANACS, makes good marketing sense. Over 100 years ago, Sears-Roebuck realized that the agrarian homes across America, who largely bought major goods from mail order catalogues, would put the smaller page format catalogue on top of the larger one (Montgomery Ward) on their coffee tables. This ingrained a visual cue of the Sears catalogue as the source they see daily. It was also the more convenient one then to pick up and browse through. Something little like that traslated into a sales bias. It the playing field was square and level, perhaps ANACS slabs would be on the tops of the stack in dealers' bourse cases. We know that is not the case, but it could have been and would have drawn a significant sales advantage.

PerryHall

<< <i>Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan >>

lasvegasteddy

kinda looks like "piss orange"...me no likes

coppercoins

For what it's worth, I'd rather have the old smaller holders than the stuff they've come up with.

Barry

<< <i>Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...

Ryan >>


Me, too. It focused one's attention on the COIN, not the plastic. All the comments about the label color just proves that most collectors are plasticmatists.


I do not care for ICGNACS.


BTW, who owns ANACS this week?

tincup

The color will make the slabs stand out in the dealers case---- perhaps that is the intent.

However, I have to agree the color distracts from the coin. The label keeps pulling my attention away from the coin. A neutral subdued color IMO works better and makes for a more attractive slab.

BBQnBLUES

YUK !! Who's bright idea was that I wonder ?

NHSBaseball

I agree that the label pulls the eyes away from the coin. I'm not a big fan of the look.

RyGuy

<< <i>


BTW, who owns ANACS this week? >>



Ahhhhh, ROFLcopter.

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>while i enjoyed your rant morganhunter2, the topic of this thread
is about the new slab and its changes....

if this were a post about a coin and we all went off topic about the
new slab... well you may have a point.

also please note that this ANACS is not the old ANACS we used to
know. so the company name ANACS might be older then some here
it is just a name. A shell. New people are filling that shell.

as for the chinese... they have the ability to create fakes of everything. a minor change of any slab.. or even a whole new slab
will bother them in the most minute way. they create fakes of everything
and their whole economy basically revolves around it. feel free to google it.

and as for pcgs... i am not quite sure why you even mention the
koolaid factor. no where did i see people praising pcgs over anacs.
i could have missed a sentence though stating this.

but once again, nice rant. i enjoyed it. >>



I agree. Great rant, misapplied.

ANACS hasn't been able to get their sh*t together for a long time - and the market is punishing them. The inconsistancy over the years is legend. I've seen everything - from overgrading, to undergrading, to missing obvious hairlines and wose, all the way to "details grading" perfectly original coins...

The parade of slab changes, none much for the better in the collectors' eyes, does nothing to fix the underlying issues. The market continues to lack respect for ANACS.

I didn't read the responses prior to your rant as PCGS koolaide, but rather on point responding to the "new" slab - pretty generally unfavourable.

And (a)pathetic lives or not, us hoi polloi ARE allowed to express an opinion. Oops, I forgot - this is a public messaging board. Opinions aren't allowed

anablep

<< <i> Am I the only one that found the old white slabs just great? I think they were the nicest slabs of the big 3. Everything was nicely laid out, they were small compared to the more bulky NGC and PCGS slabs at the time, and I think the labels themselves looked better. Meh...Ryan >>






There are some nice coins still out there to be had in those older, smaller holders.

I keep mine in those older, small, white holders for historical purposes anyway. Soon, there will be few left as most crack them out & resubmit to the big 2 TPGs.

500Bay

I do think that when there is a change in ownership, a new label is appropriate. Let the market determine each company on its own worth without dragging down (or up) the previous reputation.

That said, I am surprised they went with Gold, after the PCI Gold experience.

droopyd

<< <i>I don't like the color. It screams 70's burnt orange shag carpet >>



No, more like the "harvest gold" kitchen appliances from that era of impeccable taste, I think. The "burnt orange" color has a touch more brown in the hue.

commoncents123

I like the blue better. But, it would have been smart to reserve the gold for......um...gold?

FullStepJeffs

I like the blue holders better, but they probably had to change to show the change in ownership.

Now what arer the odds they will either give extremely over graded or extremely under graded coins in the slabs from now on?

Secondly, I've said it for years... if PCGS took over and started grading the variety attributions ANACS does, it would probably turn ANACS into dust. Until that time, my money and coins go to ANACS.

Steve

seateddime

I still like the older small slabs

dcarr

Of all the past and current slab shapes, I like the newest-generation ANACS holders far-more than any others.
Now they just need to get an artist to design their label.