I'd guess that the operator of the rolling machine found two error coins, and replaced them with these two.....
Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
I agree with Fred, Sounds like a good explination to me.
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure.
<< <i>I agree with Fred, Sounds like a good explination to me.
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure. >>
That's not theft. Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit unless his contract forbids what he did.
<< <i>I agree with Fred, Sounds like a good explination to me.
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure. >>
That's not theft. Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit unless his contract forbids what he did. >>
I'm not an attorney, but I'm guessing that waaaay too much time has passed for that to happen.
I nearly got canned from my job in college at a liquor store for switching coins from the till. I'd pulled out a war nickel and replaced it with a nickel from my pocket. The owner pulled me off the registers, took me aside and said if he ever saw my hand go from his registers to my pocket again he'd fire me on the spot. From then on I'd put any silver aside and save it for his son.
Looking back he was entirely justified, the money in the till belonged to him and wasn't mine to swap. Besides, as a college kid working at a liquor store, there was great incentive not to rock the boat too hard.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
The policy's for 'counting rooms' vary with each one.
In the past, I've dealt with those that are allowed to switch normal coins for errors with no problem, & those that can switch normal coins for errors, but must split the 'take' with the supervisor. (could be the day Sup or the night Sup, depending). I'm sure some switched without any knowledge of the Sup, but I seriously doubt any of the just simply 'stole' the errors without replacing the face value back
Each situation was different.
In the past 7-8 years, all the counting/rolling rooms are supposed to RETURN all of the errors they find BACK TO THE MINT, as part of the Mint's policy. Some do, some don't, and some used to 'cut' the errors, but I've seen less and less of those over the past few years.
Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
Many years ago I was a toll collector on the Garden State Parkway. An interesting job? Not really. But I did find a few neat cons. One I remember was an 1865 three cent nickel...probably in circulation as a dime.
One old timer though....had two buckets in his locker. That was the silver he 'exchanged' with his own money from tolls taken. We all knew he was doing it, including the district supervisor. No one minded at all.
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I mean, someone at the mint located a 1968-S and a 2000-D obverse die and made these in total error!
Yer sitting on a nice retirement nest egg there Eric.
The name is LEE!
found two error coins, and replaced them with
these two.....
<< <i>I'd guess that the operator of the rolling machine
found two error coins, and replaced them with
these two..... >>
Hey Fred!! Is he on your Payroll???
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure.
Here's #5.......................pulled 2 others out of another roll....these are CWI #31 INSP # XXX1 rolls
<< <i>I agree with Fred, Sounds like a good explination to me.
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure. >>
That's not theft. Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit unless his contract forbids what he did.
<< <i>Not currently, but I'm workin' on him ! >>
Whats the scoop on them taking the coins? legal for them to do if they switch the coin?
Cameron Kiefer
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<< <i>I agree with Fred, Sounds like a good explination to me.
My dad knew the head of the counting room for the Illinois tollway many years ago. The coins were stored in super long tubes as they were being rolled. For years he would look up and down the edge of the tubes for silver coinage and replace it with coins from his pocket. He used to get a minimum of $25-$50 a day in silver, this was in the late 70's and early 80's. To cover his expenses he would sell enough to replace his out of pocket costs and keep the rest. Then they fired him for theft? Go figure. >>
That's not theft. Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit unless his contract forbids what he did. >>
I'm not an attorney, but I'm guessing that waaaay too much time has passed for that to happen.
Looking back he was entirely justified, the money in the till belonged to him and wasn't mine to swap. Besides, as a college kid working at a liquor store, there was great incentive not to rock the boat too hard.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
In the past, I've dealt with those that are allowed to switch normal coins for errors with no problem,
& those that can switch normal coins for errors, but must split the 'take' with the supervisor.
(could be the day Sup or the night Sup, depending). I'm sure some switched without any knowledge
of the Sup, but I seriously doubt any of the just simply 'stole' the errors without replacing the
face value back
Each situation was different.
In the past 7-8 years, all the counting/rolling rooms are supposed to RETURN all of the
errors they find BACK TO THE MINT, as part of the Mint's policy. Some do, some don't,
and some used to 'cut' the errors, but I've seen less and less of those over the past few years.
One old timer though....had two buckets in his locker. That was the silver he 'exchanged' with his own money from tolls taken. We all knew he was doing it, including the district supervisor. No one minded at all.
<< <i>I'd guess that the operator of the rolling machine
found two error coins, and replaced them with
these two..... >>
Being from the 60's generation, the term "rolling machine" does not bring up mental images of coins for whatever reason!
The name is LEE!
I was a Monkey