New 2009 Lincoln Cent Designs Revealed this morning!

19Lyds

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I'll have to actually see these on a coin before I could say whether or not I actually like them.

What about you?

baddogss

are these the final designs? I though the capital building was going to be completed on the 4th one?

DennisH

Pretty blah in my opinion, and putting 1809 on the first one will cause confusion among some folks.

19Lyds

These images were pulled from the US Mint website so I assume these are the final designs.

STONE

<< <i>Pretty blah in my opinion, and putting 1809 on the first one will cause confusion among some folks. >>

ricko

I will reserve judgement until I see the coins... not overly impressed with the artists renditions, however, on metal, they may look better.... Cheers, RickO

AUandAG

What strikes me as odd is no date or mintmark?
Hmmmmmmmmm, on the other side?
Just widgets, I guess.

bob

mcmxi

are they serious? Looks like I won't have to waste any money on cents next year..

ambro51

Well....thats a lot of detail for a .75 inch coin.

The Log Cabin design was considered years ago...before the memorial.

Only thing thats missing on the artists view is


THE BLACK POOL SPOTS

LanLord

That one where Abe got his butt caught in the partially split log is sorta funny.

That's a story of a future president I never heard in school

pnylvr

sign me up for the capital version in proof finish!!

19Lyds

<< <i>What strikes me as odd is no date or mintmark?
Hmmmmmmmmm, on the other side?
Just widgets, I guess.

bob >>



These are the reverses Bob. The obverse will hopefully be Brenner's original design but thats open for interpretation. I suspect that the obverse will not change from what was used in 2008.

pendragon1998

I'll be interested to see how much of that detail actually makes it onto the coins. I don't especially like the cabin design - it's very plain. I think the capital-under-construction design will end up being pretty nice, though. (of course, everyone will think it's the white house)

renman95

I actually like the second version in Coin World...Lincoln's hand with quill signing his name. That one got axed...punny.

I also like the last version in Coin World...Lincoln standing with a completed capitol dome.

I wonder why the change.

Ren

stevek

Most things get better as time goes on like computers, cars, etc., etc...So why do coin designs usually seem to get worse, in my opinion.

RunnersDad

Nothing overly exciting about those designs....pretty lackluster if you ask me....but as stated previously they may look better when struck on metal.

sumdunce

So... Outhouse, Lumberjack, Tourguide, or Under Construction...

When I think of Lincoln, the first thing that comes to mind is the stove pipe hat. The second is the portrait that to me gave a striking and serious demeanor image of that man. I just don't see how any of these have captured his essence.

On a side note, I just can't wait for the scammers to start selling "original mint red 1809 small cents" to the unsuspecting public.



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amiller

My guess is that most of the detail will not make it to the dies. The cent renderings posted above look too busy for my liking, but I will wait and see.

If the details are not omitted, I expect fully struck EDS pieces will carry a larger premium than normal.

19Lyds

If the detail does make it to the coins, look for coins that start deteriorating rather quickly since that copper plating isn't the best that money can buy. I would expect that any type of die wear is going to destroy the longevity of these due to the plating.

As for the collectors version's, I wonder what these will look like? Supposedly some will be made with the original composition and if the detail is included on the die, these coins will be very dramatic!

SilverEagles92

I'll probably collect a set for the heck of it...

sumnom

I don't like the capital under construction. It looks more like it was damaged in some sort of attack. Bad luck to mint this coin, I say.

LanLord

<< <i>If the detail does make it to the coins, look for coins that start deteriorating rather quickly since that copper plating isn't the best that money can buy. I would expect that any type of die wear is going to destroy the longevity of these due to the plating.

As for the collectors version's, I wonder what these will look like? Supposedly some will be made with the original composition and if the detail is included on the die, these coins will be very dramatic! >>



I thought the law called for "the original metal content" that would mean no plated zinc jobs

sumnom

The original metal content wouldn't apply to the business strikes though, would it?

Trebor

Oh my, how disappointing.

Blackborder

I prefered the design where he was tearing up the Constitution.

Bochiman

<< <i>What strikes me as odd is no date or mintmark?
Hmmmmmmmmm, on the other side?
Just widgets, I guess.

bob >>




Our lawmakers don't have enough to do, and Moy has been coaching them, so they have all used their grand wisdom to decide that dates/mintmarks should only be on a coin's edge. Not the obv/rev anymore.


For the designs, I think some folks are trying to get too much into a design and be too "artsy" about it. Hate to say it, but the 4th design is about the only one I think isn't too bad.

AlixTCat

What's with the first one. That canNOT be the final design. They didn't even show E PLURIBUS UNUM and 1809 in relief. Someone just tacked that on there with Photoshop. Can't be the final designs. Is what's black on the illustration going to be painted on there with paint? Not even close to anything they can make a coin out of with the first one.

The second one, they need to put the crack in the log somewhere other than on Lincoln's crack. They did not think before they drew that one up. He looks like Kramer from Seinfeld on this design.

Third one, why is he pointing? What is the point of the pointing? I don't get it.

Fourth one, who flew into the Capitol? Like was said, bad news with that one.

I could have come up with better designs. I went to art school. Obviously the people who designed the coins did not or did not pay attention in the Designs classes.

I'm disappointed. I was really looking forward to these. But as some have said, maybe they will look better on the metal.

Jonathan

coppercoins

#1 is just wrong. A plain cabin on a supposed work of art that has a bisecting line running through it. ...Jr. High art class people...don't bisect your artwork with stupid lines.

#2 okay, just plain ugly.

#3 Decent design but they'll figure out how to ruin it on a coin.

#4 See #3.

jsf

How appropriate, almost looks like a rig top sticking out of the capitol building.

GrumpyEd

That's a lot of design to fit on a cent.
I expect that we'll be looking through millions to find one where the design is complete and well struck.

micmt

I just don't see how any of these have captured his essence.

I must agree that I dont feel enspired by these designs. But I am hoping when they come out that they will be better. How did every one feel when they first saw the reverse designs of the Westward Journey Nickel series? I ended liking quite a few of the of those. So I am hoping these I will also.....But I feel that with such a momentous coin that it should be awe inspiring. These just seem to lack his essence and will result in a failure in the eyes of Lincoln historians and collectors alike.

skeeterhawk

To me the second design looks just like Cosmo Kramer from "Seinfeld".............

Phoenix21

It'll be interesting to see them on the coins themselves, seems like a lot of detail for a small coin. I predict trouble in minting them, a long with quite a few coins having weak strikes. Will be interesting, to say the least. I'm looking forward to it.

Phoenix

veryfine

The original wheat reverse was, by far, the best design. The simple, elegant design was replaced with the clunky memorial reverse. And for 2009, the reverse will be a combination of complex detail and low relief. Not a good mix, in my opinion.

Musky1011

HO HUM

19Lyds

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<< <i>If the detail does make it to the coins, look for coins that start deteriorating rather quickly since that copper plating isn't the best that money can buy. I would expect that any type of die wear is going to destroy the longevity of these due to the plating.

As for the collectors version's, I wonder what these will look like? Supposedly some will be made with the original composition and if the detail is included on the die, these coins will be very dramatic! >>



I thought the law called for "the original metal content" that would mean no plated zinc jobs >>



"SEC. 304. NUMISMATIC PENNIES WITH THE SAME METALLIC CONTENT
AS THE 1909 PENNY.
The Secretary of the Treasury shall issue 1-cent coins in 2009
with the exact metallic content as the 1-cent coin contained in
1909 in such number as the Secretary determines to be appropriate
for numismatic purposes."

Thje original composition coins will only be for the collector issues and not the regular business strikes.

BillyKingsley

I like the bottom two, but not the top two designs. The log cabin is just plain boring. Maybe if they had "Birthplace of Lincoln" above it it would be better. I wonder if "E Pluribus Unum and 1809 will be incuse? The top right design is just terrible on all accounts. I find it hard to believe that was approved by anyone.

The bottom left design I like. I doubt it will look as it does there in the final minted coin, though. I imagine the trees will be eliminated. The Capitol under construction is very cool, and is my favorite of the 4. I had read that it was ruled they would NOT be allowed to show it under construction, but I'm for one glad they went back on that line of thought.

I think it would have been a fitting tribute to produce a wheat ear 2009 as well.

Longacre

<< <i> Hate to say it, but the 4th design is about the only one I think isn't too bad. >>





I agree with Bochiman.

EagleEye

I think each one makes you ask a question about Lincoln. That's good, since most people don't know much about him, at least until the Spielberg movie comes out.


1) Did he grow up dirt poor? yes, literally!

2) How did he finance his education? Work, work, work!

3) Was he a Senator too! Yes, with as much experience when he ran for President as a current Illinois Senator trying to do the same.

4) Why is the Capitol not finished? He took it's progress during the war as a sign that the nation will continue on, united.

19Lyds

<< <i>What's with the first one. That canNOT be the final design. They didn't even show E PLURIBUS UNUM and 1809 in relief. Someone just tacked that on there with Photoshop. Can't be the final designs. Is what's black on the illustration going to be painted on there with paint? Not even close to anything they can make a coin out of with the first one.

The second one, they need to put the crack in the log somewhere other than on Lincoln's crack. They did not think before they drew that one up. He looks like Kramer from Seinfeld on this design.

Third one, why is he pointing? What is the point of the pointing? I don't get it.

Fourth one, who flew into the Capitol? Like was said, bad news with that one.

I could have come up with better designs. I went to art school. Obviously the people who designed the coins did not or did not pay attention in the Designs classes.

I'm disappointed. I was really looking forward to these. But as some have said, maybe they will look better on the metal.

Jonathan >>



1. E PLURIBUS UNUM and the 1809 date will more than likely be incused on the coin.

2. I would intepet #2 as the log being partially split.

3. He is not pointing as much as he is presenting as in a casual wave.

4. The partially built Capitol Dome on the 4th design represents that the Capitol Dome was under construction during Lincoln's term.
"...........it was on December 2, 1863, that the Statue of Freedom was placed atop the Capitol Building to signify the completion of construction of the new dome."

I think the designs are a bit too complex for that little ole copper planchet but again will withhold final judgement until after the coins come out. There's really no telling how the relief of the new reverses will actually affect the relief on the obverse. It's possible that 2009 will have some nice high relief coins......................or they could end up all baggy and beat to death like the 2006 Jefferson's!

That 3/4 view Jefferson design might work well for hand fed, hand done medals but it sure as heck didn't work too well for a mass production operation!

koufax

Being the black sheep that I am--I kinda like them.

lathmach

I don't like any of the four designs, but the 4th is the best of the batch.
Off the subject,..... did you folks know that Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln grew up just 9 miles apart in Kentucky?
In the Kentucky State Capitol there is a statue of each of them.

Ray

Jcarney

Bleck.

I wanted to see an EXACT replica of the 1909 S VDB, in copper, dated 2009 S VDB, with a mintage of 484,000.

When I say exact, I mean Victor D. Brenner's portrait of Lincoln, not the current cartoon version and the Wheat reverse.

19Lyds

<< <i>Bleck.

I wanted to see an EXACT replica of the 1909 S VDB, in copper, dated 2009 S VDB, with a mintage of 484,000.

When I say exact, I mean Victor D. Brenner's portrait of Lincoln, not the current cartoon version and the Wheat reverse.

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I would love to see this as well and can only hope that the collector versions will reflect Brenners original design.

But.........................I don't think its going to happen!

Cladiator

I kinda like 'em.

EagleEye

I want to see an exact replica of the 1909 VDB MPL in bronze dated 2009 with a mintage of 350.

claychaser

These might be OK for Chuck E Cheese tokens, but as for coins, Mr. Brenner and Pres. Roosevelt would not approve of them, IMHO.

19Lyds

<< <i>I want to see an exact replica of the 1909 VDB MPL in bronze dated 2009 with a mintage of 350. >>



Aren't the counterfeiters working on this Rick?

Batman23

<< <i>I want to see an exact replica of the 1909 VDB MPL in bronze dated 2009 with a mintage of 350. >>



Only if I could get my order of 20 in or better yet, the entire lot of 350

Can you imagine the turmoil if they made those with only 350 minted? They would have to issue them by lottery or something.


But this is what I was truely hopeing for: "I wanted to see an EXACT replica of the 1909 S VDB, in copper, dated 2009 S VDB, with a mintage of 484,000."

Silverstate

Like the design or not.
I have been kind of bored with the memorial reverse now for 50 years.

2009 Lincolns cents are going to add a lot of coins to the sets with business strikes, satin strikes and proofs x 4 revereses x 2 metal contents!

Wow! It will be interesting.

Oh, and lets not forget. Territory Quarters, Edge lettering Sacagaweas, revised with stars edge lettering Pres Dollars too!

2009 will be interesting.

Casman

<< <i>To me the second design looks just like Cosmo Kramer from "Seinfeld"............. >>