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Could a Proof San Fransico Planchet have gotten into the Denver Mint ?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I picked up this 2005-D Lincoln 1c Uncentered Broadstrike over a year ago as it was is fully Proof-like and all post 2002 Lincoln Mint Error since the new Schuler Presses where installed are almost impossible to find.

The planchet looks like a proof, yet this Denver delivery... or is it just an Early Die Strike image

Thanks in advance as all thoughts on this one are greatly appreciated! image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The San Francisco Mint used to ship its reject proof planchets to Denver to be struck. Don't know if they still do.

    That said, P-L surfaces are more likely to be the result of a nice, fresh die.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The San Francisco Mint used to ship its reject proof planchets to Denver to be struck. >>



    CaptHenway, your just a wealth of knowledge! image

    Could the level Prooflikeness as on Lincoln's coat jacket come from just a new set of dies with a business strike planchet image
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  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭
    That thar thing sure is purdy!


    Edited to add: 99.99% sure its a case of a fresh die, possibly one of the first 100 coins struck off it?
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That thar thing sure is purdy! Edited to add: 99.99% sure its a case of a fresh die, possibly one of the first 100 coins struck off it? >>



    Maybe it was the first one and they said "oops, better adjust that.". ....
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That thar thing sure is purdy! Edited to add: 99.99% sure its a case of a fresh die, possibly one of the first 100 coins struck off it? >>



    Maybe it was the first one and they said "oops, better adjust that.". .... >>



    image Can I get a "First Strike" designation imageimage
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That thar thing sure is purdy!


    Edited to add: 99.99% sure its a case of a fresh die, possibly one of the first 100 coins struck off it? >>



    Or perhaps one of the first "mis"struck off of it!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That thar thing sure is purdy!


    Edited to add: 99.99% sure its a case of a fresh die, possibly one of the first 100 coins struck off it? >>



    Or perhaps one of the first "mis"struck off of it! >>



    "First Mis-Strike" would be cool on the holder! image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 928 ✭✭✭
    Nice Coin!

    I have actually found 2006+ "PL" Denver cents in circulation and I generally save them.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,794 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The San Francisco Mint used to ship its reject proof planchets to Denver to be struck. >>



    CaptHenway, your just a wealth of knowledge! image

    Could the level Prooflikeness as on Lincoln's coat jacket come from just a new set of dies with a business strike planchet image >>



    I once handled an 1881-S dollar that was about 50% off center. The unstruck areas were totally grainy and frosted from the pickling process that they gave dollar planchets. The struck fields were as Proof-Like as you have ever seen on an 1881-S dollar. The Proof-Like surface came from the die, not the planchet.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It should be noted though that there is often more to PL than
    just the texture of the die surface. There's also the type of die
    preparation and the texture of the planchet. Striking a fully pol-
    ished proof planchet with old worn dies will not create a pretty
    coin but it will be a lot shinier than others.

    By the same token not all dies will strike PL's when new. It de-
    pends on their preparation and to some extent on the planchet.

    If all new dies struck PL's these coins would be far more common
    than they are.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat coin. Set that one aside until they start certifying BMPRs for this date image
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