Which varieties will they now recognize? Are you referring to the Ripken? The Randy Johnsons I pulled yesterday with the green tint black out with a circle have intrigued me now. Mailed off a sub today but did not include these cards because I did not think PSA would slab them as the correct variation.
<< <i>On the Green-I heard there is green and green with a circle. >>
Donovan, where are you? Two of the Johnson's had the green tint with a circle. If I can get to my scanner after supper I will post scans of all three variations I pulled.
BTW, I pulled quite a few of the error cards on the list that was posted. >>
Here's some Marlboro variations posted on a Beckett thread. I tried to link it but was unsucessfull. It is on page 12, titled 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Variations (Close Up Scans)
BOX-OUT, Dark green:
BOX-OUT, Red:
BOX-OUT Red w/grey circle:
PARTIAL BOX-OUT, Letters still partially visible:
MARLBORO, 1st version:
MARLBORO, Green tint (white area tinted dark green):
GREEN SCRIBBLE, thick, crude line through word only:
I just spent 30 minutes on the beckett website looking for the Johnson link. That site pisses me off more than any other site on the internet. I can't find it. I can't figure out how to search for a topic. What a pathetic excuse for a site. If someone has found it could they link it for me? Thanks.
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<< <i>I just spent 30 minutes on the beckett website looking for the Johnson link. That site pisses me off more than any other site on the internet. I can't find it. I can't figure out how to search for a topic. What a pathetic excuse for a site. If someone has found it could they link it for me? Thanks.
Chris >>
I think on the main page go to the section titled Latest Disussions. Find a baseball topic. Then go to page 12
<< <i>Which varieties will they now recognize? Are you referring to the Ripken? The Randy Johnsons I pulled yesterday with the green tint black out with a circle have intrigued me now. Mailed off a sub today but did not include these cards because I did not think PSA would slab them as the correct variation. >>
Yeah I don't know if they'll ever recognize all the Johnson variations. I asked specifically about the Throws Rig/Throws Right, Different Backs, Target/No Target, etc. cards. I guess it's a good place to start...
Is it possible to slightly inflate the prices of unopened 1989 Fleer because of this thread? What website are these boxes being sold at? I may be interested in a few boxes myself.
<< <i>Is it possible to slightly inflate the prices of unopened 1989 Fleer because of this thread? What website are these boxes being sold at? I may be interested in a few boxes myself. >>
Unlikely. Looking to profit from 89 Fleer? If so, quit now.
Within this thread, a few different locations are mentioned. I wont flatout say based on question #1.
As far as "investing" in unopened wax or racks from this set, I bought my 6 boxes last week for entertainment purposes only. I happeened to end up with a few of the key cards (Griffey, Ripken FF and Randy Johnson) that were submittable. The extra key cards will be going on eBay. If I happen to get one or two 10's from the 6 I sent in, it should more than cover my expense. The extras I sell on eBay should end up as bonus money.
Plus, I love building sets. Should be able to complete 2 sets.
Just thought I would ad this auction to thread. IMO, this card is mislabeled. It is labeled as "Marlboro ad on scoreboard" when it is actually the ad with blackbox line through it.
<< <i>As far as "investing" in unopened wax or racks from this set, I bought my 6 boxes last week for entertainment purposes only. I happeened to end up with a few of the key cards (Griffey, Ripken FF and Randy Johnson) that were submittable. The extra key cards will be going on eBay. If I happen to get one or two 10's from the 6 I sent in, it should more than cover my expense. The extras I sell on eBay should end up as bonus money.
Plus, I love building sets. Should be able to complete 2 sets. >>
Let me know if you're missing anything for your sets. I've got about 3,000 cards here from the boxes I've opened and I don't know what to do with them.
Oh and also - if you've got the time and energy, for the variations we listed here, would you mind listing the type of each that you got from your case or boxes? I started a spreadsheet showing what I've gotten from my rips so far. I'd like to keep adding to it.
The most interesting thing I've found so far is that I got corrected versions of "throws right" and "throws left" in the same box as the FF error, but have found "throws rig"/"throws lef" error versions of those cards from a sealed case with no FF's. I'm not sure what to make of that, other than it makes me more of a believer that cards were printed at different locations.
Edit: and yeah I'm addicted too at this point. I've got a rack case, a cello case and a few different wax boxes all on the way...
How do you guys feel when you're ripping 89 Fleer now? I've bought a few random boxes and a couple of rack cases over the past year or so and it can be a little depressing IMO. Yeah, when you pull a Griffey it's pretty cool. Or I'm sure if you get a rare version of the FF (which I never have) it would be pretty exciting. But other than that, I just find myself constantly thinking "Wow! I remember when this card was the s**t!"....and now of course it's worth absolutely nothing. Ricky Jordan, Cameron Drew, Luis Medina, Sandy Alomar Jr.....I could go on and on. It sometimes makes me chuckle thinking how excited I was as a 13 yr old when I would pull one of those guys.
I guess there is a fine line between pleasant nostalgia and depressing reality.
Ripken: FF Vandeberg: Left Ashby: Right Johnson: Total Blackout Romine: Batting Curt Young: No S Hernandez: Red Spot Orsulak: White Spot Moses: Phoenix Trillo: Right Neil Allen: Syosset Varsho: No Target Brookens: Heath Back Heath: Brookens Back Boggs: Spot on Back Heep: San Antonio Treadway: No Target
And one cello with Bonds on top, which if my math is correct, means there's a Griffey inside. May hold that one just for s's & giggles.
Ripken: FF Vandeberg: Left Ashby: Right Johnson: Total Blackout Romine: Batting Curt Young: No S Hernandez: Red Spot Orsulak: White Spot Moses: Phoenix Trillo: Right Neil Allen: Syosset Varsho: No Target Brookens: Heath Back Heath: Brookens Back Boggs: Spot on Back Heep: San Antonio Treadway: No Target
And one cello with Bonds on top, which if my math is correct, means there's a Griffey inside. May hold that one just for s's & giggles.
<< <i>I meant it's on the list of cards I posted at 4:53 yesterday... the post Donovan quoted above. >>
I need to get the list you have of 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken errors with corrections.
I have never seen or Heard of a Varsho Target error. I assume it's the same as Treadway. Location of target?
Only error I have (and without a correction) is the battinh average of .303, should be 302 >>
Ah, I misunderstood your earlier post.
I read about this on another site (or an old Beckett?? I can't remember). I assumed it was verified. I could be totally wrong. Don't take my word for it. Sorry for the confusion too...
In a related story, I finally picked up a Treadway target today. Excited to see it.
Actually, the more I think about it, I swear I actually saw a scan of the Varsho with target. Unless I'm completely dilusional, it was below the bottom color line, in the middle.
I finally got around to opening the rest of my rack case and noticed something. Unless I missed them I didn't get a single Treadway card, either w/ target or w/o. There was 1 in the cello box but none in a case of racks. That seems odd to me.
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Hmm. Once I opened a cello case and it had 2-3 McGwires and a few other players the colaltion was off. My rack case I'm opening now the collation is weird too. Pulled a rack with 2 of the same on top and opened one this morning and had 2 of the same cards in there. I did get a Treadway- corrected.
One of the rack boxes from the case seemed like it had 10 Smoltz cards. There were 2 packs from that box w/ Smoltz on the top and one pack w/ 2 Smoltz cards in the same pack. They were everywhere!
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<< <i>Those are verified Donovan? >>
According to a Yahoo E/V group, they are.
I used to only look for the positions listed on C-lists (never pulled one) and didn't know/check for the Hendersor.
Surprised by PSA slabbing the varieties. Cool.
<< <i>
<< <i>On the Green-I heard there is green and green with a circle. >>
Donovan, where are you? Two of the Johnson's had the green tint with a circle. If I can get to my scanner after supper I will post scans of all three variations I pulled.
BTW, I pulled quite a few of the error cards on the list that was posted. >>
Here's some Marlboro variations posted on a Beckett thread. I tried to link it but was unsucessfull. It is on page 12, titled 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Variations (Close Up Scans)
BOX-OUT, Dark green:
BOX-OUT, Red:
BOX-OUT Red w/grey circle:
PARTIAL BOX-OUT, Letters still partially visible:
MARLBORO, 1st version:
MARLBORO, Green tint (white area tinted dark green):
GREEN SCRIBBLE, thick, crude line through word only:
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<< <i>I just spent 30 minutes on the beckett website looking for the Johnson link. That site pisses me off more than any other site on the internet. I can't find it. I can't figure out how to search for a topic. What a pathetic excuse for a site. If someone has found it could they link it for me? Thanks.
Chris >>
I think on the main page go to the section titled Latest Disussions. Find a baseball topic. Then go to page 12
Link?
$5 says the link wont work.
<< <i>Which varieties will they now recognize? Are you referring to the Ripken? The Randy Johnsons I pulled yesterday with the green tint black out with a circle have intrigued me now. Mailed off a sub today but did not include these cards because I did not think PSA would slab them as the correct variation. >>
Yeah I don't know if they'll ever recognize all the Johnson variations. I asked specifically about the Throws Rig/Throws Right, Different Backs, Target/No Target, etc. cards. I guess it's a good place to start...
<< <i>Is it possible to slightly inflate the prices of unopened 1989 Fleer because of this thread? What website are these boxes being sold at? I may be interested in a few boxes myself. >>
Unlikely. Looking to profit from 89 Fleer? If so, quit now.
Within this thread, a few different locations are mentioned. I wont flatout say based on question #1.
Just ordered a rack case and wax box !!
Plus, I love building sets. Should be able to complete 2 sets.
Johnson PSA 9
Edit to add: Identical card with different label as the first one posted above.
<< <i>As far as "investing" in unopened wax or racks from this set, I bought my 6 boxes last week for entertainment purposes only. I happeened to end up with a few of the key cards (Griffey, Ripken FF and Randy Johnson) that were submittable. The extra key cards will be going on eBay. If I happen to get one or two 10's from the 6 I sent in, it should more than cover my expense. The extras I sell on eBay should end up as bonus money.
Plus, I love building sets. Should be able to complete 2 sets. >>
Let me know if you're missing anything for your sets. I've got about 3,000 cards here from the boxes I've opened and I don't know what to do with them.
The most interesting thing I've found so far is that I got corrected versions of "throws right" and "throws left" in the same box as the FF error, but have found "throws rig"/"throws lef" error versions of those cards from a sealed case with no FF's. I'm not sure what to make of that, other than it makes me more of a believer that cards were printed at different locations.
Edit: and yeah I'm addicted too at this point. I've got a rack case, a cello case and a few different wax boxes all on the way...
But other than that, I just find myself constantly thinking "Wow! I remember when this card was the s**t!"....and now of course it's worth absolutely nothing.
Ricky Jordan, Cameron Drew, Luis Medina, Sandy Alomar Jr.....I could go on and on. It sometimes makes me chuckle thinking how excited I was as a 13 yr old when I would pull one of those guys.
I guess there is a fine line between pleasant nostalgia and depressing reality.
<< <i>I ordered a few 89F wax boxes from BBCE over the weekend and just got word from Steve that they're out of stock. Thanks for nothing, guys.
I ordered a rack case and wax box on Sat from BBCE !!! Said mine are coming. Glad I got some coming. It's been awhile since I ripped some.
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<< <i>I just ordered a rack case and a cello and wax box. It didn't mention anything about being out of stock.
Chris >>
Maybe they didnt update their site yet as of now the 1989 Fleer wax is gone.
Good luck on the 89 F, post your results !!!
<< <i>
<< <i>I just ordered a rack case and a cello and wax box. It didn't mention anything about being out of stock.
Chris >>
Maybe they didnt update their site yet as of now the 1989 Fleer wax is gone.
Good luck on the 89 F, post your results !!! >>
I definately will. I'm hoping for a rack that has Griffey, Johnson, and an FF card all on the front. I'm sure it'll happen.
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<< <i>I just ordered a rack case and a cello and wax box. It didn't mention anything about being out of stock.
Chris >>
It didn't when I ordered last night either...
<< <i>Phew. I ordered mine on Sat. Do I hear $20, going once....
Haha
As tempting as that is, we are still talking about 1989 Fleer here!
Lance Blankenship ROOKIE and Cannon Arms Bobby Bonilla/Chris Sabo!!!!!1!!!111
Booyah!
The FF is on both with semi stars. They'll have to do until I can get a FF/Johnson/Griffey.
FF with 2 inserts (one is Sabo)
FF, Baines,Strawberry
Here's the closest I have gotten to a FF/Griffey/Johnson
Sheffield/Griffey/Johnson
Ripken: FF
Vandeberg: Left
Ashby: Right
Johnson: Total Blackout
Romine: Batting
Curt Young: No S
Hernandez: Red Spot
Orsulak: White Spot
Moses: Phoenix
Trillo: Right
Neil Allen: Syosset
Varsho: No Target
Brookens: Heath Back
Heath: Brookens Back
Boggs: Spot on Back
Heep: San Antonio
Treadway: No Target
And one cello with Bonds on top, which if my math is correct, means there's a Griffey inside. May hold that one just for s's & giggles.
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<< <i>Got a single cello box today:
Ripken: FF
Vandeberg: Left
Ashby: Right
Johnson: Total Blackout
Romine: Batting
Curt Young: No S
Hernandez: Red Spot
Orsulak: White Spot
Moses: Phoenix
Trillo: Right
Neil Allen: Syosset
Varsho: No Target
Brookens: Heath Back
Heath: Brookens Back
Boggs: Spot on Back
Heep: San Antonio
Treadway: No Target
And one cello with Bonds on top, which if my math is correct, means there's a Griffey inside. May hold that one just for s's & giggles.
>>
Varsho: No Target ?
<< <i>Yessir - it's on there! >>
What's it on? Do you have a list somewhere that you are going off of?
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<< <i>I meant it's on the list of cards I posted at 4:53 yesterday... the post Donovan quoted above. >>
I need to get the list you have of 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken errors with corrections.
I have never seen or heard of a Varsho Target error. I assume it's the same as Treadway. Location of target?
Only error I have (and without a correction) is the batting average of .303, should be 302
*edited for spelling and punctuation.
<< <i>
<< <i>I meant it's on the list of cards I posted at 4:53 yesterday... the post Donovan quoted above. >>
I need to get the list you have of 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken errors with corrections.
I have never seen or Heard of a Varsho Target error. I assume it's the same as Treadway. Location of target?
Only error I have (and without a correction) is the battinh average of .303, should be 302 >>
Ah, I misunderstood your earlier post.
I read about this on another site (or an old Beckett?? I can't remember). I assumed it was verified. I could be totally wrong. Don't take my word for it. Sorry for the confusion too...
In a related story, I finally picked up a Treadway target today. Excited to see it.
Never seen it listed in any E/V books (SCD plus 2 other collector published) or E/V groups list it etc.
Ripken: FF
Vandeberg: Throws Lef
Ashby: Throws Rig
Johnson: Black box red outline
Romine: Batting
Curt Young: n/a
Hernandez: Red spot
Orsulak: White spot
Moses: n/a
Trillo: Throws Rig
Neil Allen: Sarasota
Varsho: n/a
Brookens: Heath back
Heath: n/a
Boggs: n/a
Heep: San Antonio
Treadway: No target
Wax box pulled a FF and this "red" Johnson.
My rack case was from BBCE. It is the grocery racks in the red lettered cases.
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Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey