Finally had a strange eBay experience...
GullibleNewb
Posts: 401
Just thought I would relate this little experience, and solicit some opinions as to what really might have happened.
I purchased a coin using a BIN on a Sunday night from a 500+ 100% feedback seller, and paid immediately. The seller emailed me and said it would be sent Monday. Wham-bam, done deal. Seller is in the state next door, I figure to have it by the end of the week. When Saturday hits, I email him an inquiry, hoping he will automatically think to send me the tracking info, like most sellers do. Now this was the most expensive coin I had ever tried to purchase from eBay ($2,500+), so I really was interested in that information. If it had been a $100 coin, I wouldn't have cared.
He sent this: "sorry just been going in and out of hospital, i can confirm that the coin was shipped early last week, i assume it will be there monday if it hasnt turned up by now but when i get home ill dig up the tracking number and find out where it is, please excuse the delay in answering your message"
That's cool, I'm thinking he will share the tracking with me. Later I get this: "i went to the post office today and they can track it but cant find it, it never left milwaukee, i would like to offer you a full refund until the coin is located and shipped to you, this has never happened before and i hate the fact that you have paid and not received the coin so the only thing i can think of is refunding ur money and when the coin shows you repay the invoice. other then that im not sure what to do other then wait, the tracking number i have goes nowhere so ithey tracked it using some other way and they just got it to the main sorting facility in milwaukee, the coin has been fully insured but unlike other sellers i couldnt in my right mind say you do the insurance claim..i really dont think thats fair that you would have to wait up to 8 weeks for your money back. other then that all we can do is wait another week and see if it shows, im sure it will but the people at usps arnt the most helpfull or caring people in the world so who knows...im praying it turns up and then im praying you would be honest enough to pay the money for it, i really dont want to get a negative feedback so im willing to do whatever you want me to...if u want a refund and then when it shows u pay that back(i really hope!) or we wait another week and see if it shows as i start the insurance claim(hopefully they will find it then) but i think they said today it has to be lost for 4 weeks before i can make a claim...i dont know this is really upsetting as i dont have this money to loose but i feel so bad u have paid and not got anything yet
tell me what u want to do"
See, it struck me as odd that he offered an immediate refund, but I said let's give it a week. But notice he did not give me the numbers from the shipping receipts. That bothered me. So as it gets later in the second week, I get more aggressive about asking for the tracking number. This was part of a midweek message: " ...there is a way they can check if a parcel has gone through a scanner...its a certian section of usps that does this but it can be done, anyway ill keep in touch and let u know once i hear from usps this week and what they said...im praying it just turns up today...my fingers are crossed lol....i hate these headaches i think ill use fedex from now on"
Still no tracking number. He seemed to completely ignore that I was asking for it. Given the amount of time I had to do a chargeback if needed, and on the advice of a couple forum members, I opened a dispute. THAT got his attention: "no probs ill refund ur money by monday, the reason no tracking number is lodged on paypal is due to the amount of money the trasaction is worth, paypal only insures up to $500 otherwise u have to go to the post office which is what i did, u really screwed me over by placing a claim against me, i told u if it wasnt there on monday i would refund ur money, u have now done a claim against me on saturday therefore freezing all the money in my account! thanks now i cant run my business , i told u i would refund on monday if it hasnt arrived, thats ok if u want to do it this way then u can do the insurance claim to get ur money."
I kept asking for the tracking. Here are some of his replies:
"I am sure if we are patient until after labor day weekend we will have a much better idea what is going on. I also seemed to have over looked that it is labor day weekend, the post office wont even update anything until tuesday, and even then will be backed up until Wednesday. Please just have a LITTLE patience, for the moment it is out of my hands."
"oh, and i have the tracking info written down at home, looking for it currently."
"no im not stalling and i have no reason to, the reason it wasnt automatically in place on paypal as i said was that it is a high value item therefore i have to go to the post office and do everything manually, also then have to find your exact slip which i have"
"the tracking number for your item is
EH 113860743 US
it was sent priority mail with signature confirmation and insured
as it was a public holiday today i could not do further investigation at the post office, u must also understand i dont sit behind my computer waiting for emails, i do have a life and being a public holiday i went away for a couple fo days, no crime and def not stalling? whatever that means, how could i be stalling if i have said i would offer i full refund this week if it didnt show up? i have insured it so it doesnt worry me, what does worry me is a person who is kicking up so much of a stink accusing me of stalling or not having the money to refund you, what if it shows up...are you going to then pay me? how do i know that after all the fuss you are creating? u want me to trust u and refund the money but then USPS is going to make me wait 5 more weeks before i can make a claim, if it shows up in the mean time i have to just accept u will pay me and not rip me off, do u understand why i like to wait a bit for it to turn up? its alot of trust that im placing in u if i refund ur money, i cant claim through paypal can i...only u can...so i hope u understand my situation in the fact that if it shows up and i have refunded u i just have to hope u pay me money, i have no recourse through paypal like u do
i hope u understand the situation a bit better now, ur money is no issue, paypal have frozen that money in my account so i cant touch it so there is no issue with having "no money" as u said, the moment u made the claim the money was frozen
that placed me in a bit of a bind as i could not ship any items...i hope u understand how that can piss a person off when we had a verbal agreement of waiting"
"are u for real, what is your problem? tell you the truth?, i have done nothing but tell you the truth, as i have told u a number of times paypal has frozen your money so i dont know why you are stressing so much, i have provided the tracking number as requested , i have requested information from usps , and i have informed you of this, i have no reason to lie or to not tell you the truth as u put it, over 500 transactions and your the first person i have had an issue with? kinda strange"
"i was prepared to refund you but i have all rights to wait the 45days until i can make a claim to usps, i dont want to do that as i dont feel right holding onto someones money if they dont have what they paid for, but as i said you have to give usps the opportunity to find it? as then i would have to trust you with no recourse if it shows up and you dont pay me....cant you understand that?"
"that isnt a bogus number, if and when that coin arrives you will be made to sign for it, if it is not returned or if it isnt paid i will have to proceed with the legal side of things, i hope you understand, im not out to rip anyone off or to do anything else you are accusing me of, i have proved i shipped it with the tracking number, usps have tracked it in milwaukee so i dont know what u are going on about, i will advise a return to sender on that item once found, but if it is delivered it has signature confirmation so i would expect immediate payment
as i said this has never happened before, you are accusing me of not provideing shipping which i have done, u are saying its a bogus number which it isnt, i really dont know what ur problem is but to save any further heartache i will issue a full refund"
He then immediately issued a refund. Please notice he is claiming the coin may yet arrive, which he contradicts later.
So, I thought about this for awhile. If you track the number he gave me, it is invalid. Plus, it is not even a Priority number. Given this, I left him negative feedback. This was later the same night that he refunded me. This is where it gets stranger. These are the emails I received, all in the course of about an hour. (I pretty much just responded to every one that if he was willing to send me pictures of the receipts, we could do a mutual feedback withdrawal)
"are u for real, u get a refund then u leave that bullsh** feedback, what the hell! its not my bloody fault they didnt deliver the mail, u got ur bloody money then u leave feedback like that! that was a correct number for usps , i have the slip right in front of me that i email u a pic of, i cannot believe that after i fully refunded ur money u would leave feedback like that, never purchase from me again and i know karma will get u back for this because as much as u want to believe i did something wrong i didnt, geez i took a couple of days to reply as it was a public holiday, u should be ashamed of urself, have a look at other people who have purchased just as high priced items with no problems, thanks for trying to sabotage my only source of income, thats really appreciated, btw ur package was located in milwaukee, the address label had been ripped off!, so u can stick that up ur a*#s thanks for a horrible experience with ebay!"
"are u for real! the tracking number isnt automatiucally filled out as i had to go to the post office, thanks for the malicious feedback because ur a fool! i told you this a number of times ! i had to go to the post office due to the value, ur a sad person who has to try and ruin a persons feedback for no reason, ill be lodging a complaint with paypal"
"whats ur mobile number ill send a pic of the receipt right bloody now! i dont have the ability to take a photo right now because the other computer is on the fritz but it will be back tomorrow, i have proof i sendt it and i am appaled u would accuse me of such things! i wont even list that coin again after this incident, i was only selling it as i needed the money to pay medical bills, now u screwed me over with that i had to find money elsewhere as i refunded urs, instead of just waiting for usps which i had every right too, too keep u happy i refunded and look what i got in return, thanks for that! u dont deserve to own a coin of such rarity, i wanted it to go to a good home, and that isnt urs, it will stay with me now as it was an amzing coin and something i shouldnt have ever sold. especially to a person who so obviously doesnt deserve it after maliciously tryintg to ruin my feedback"
"whatever champ, i have the receipt from the post office right in front of me with signature confirmation, i dont really care anymore u have tried to ruin my feedback but i have many loyal customers who dont care, 1 neg 500 positive hmmm what would u believe???? i am an honest seller and did nothing wrong, i have never had any issues until u! i think maybe u purchased something u couldnt afford and u seen a delay in postage as a way to get ur money back, if u cant afford to buy things u should never partake in the transaction, have a great night and god bless"
"weird that u wont give me ur number , what do u think i would harrass u or something...who the hell do u think i am...or who the hell are u?? geez i prob have it on the sales record it i looked...all i wanted to do is send u the picture that i took of the receipt...weirdo"
"i will do that, just to prove u wrong, once again i still cant believe the hide of u, the coin showed up before u left the feedback champ , and before i refunded ur money! i refunded ur money once i knew where the coin was, i should have just shipped it back out and taken back the money but i dont want u to have the coin , u dont deserve it, simple as that, im a collector not a dealer so money isnt my only motivation, u will get ur pics tomorrow, too bad u already screwed my feedback, thats an a**hole thing to do after i did everything i said i would do, i even refunded u when i said i would last week, u have a short memory and i hope u feel good about urself, i disabled vet and u try and ruin one of my only income opportunitys...real nice of u
thanks"
"signature confirmation doesnt have a seperate number, its a green receipt stuck to the outside of the package, as i said i went to the post office, i didnt have second thoughts i purchased the coin for $1800 why would i have second thoughts at making 1000 after fees? doesnt seem right does it, and if someone offered me the same money u paid tomorrow and i knew them i would sell it to them for the same priuce, maybe even cheaper, so u really dont have a leg to stand on with that argument do u? if u do a little investigation u will see that the coin wasnt even purchased that long ago...i just can spot a good deal, anyway enough of that. the number i provided is a correct number for a hand written receipt, i have it sitting right in front of me, i can tell u the weight,the date, everything, but u couldnt wait a day could u, u just assumed i was doing something wrong although 506 people before u never had an issue with me? doesn t that seem strange to u...100% feedback until u came along???? i think maybe u just have run out of money, and thats fine, u could have just sent the coin back for a refund if ur broke i wouldnt have mided, but i do mind a person leaving malicious feedback because of assumptions, i didnt ignore u i didnt rip u off, i refunded ur money, geez if i only had half the luck u have had when i have had an issue with a transaction...what the hell"
Wow. I declined the cell phone picture because I didn't want him having my cell number, and I was sure it would not have enough detail anyway. But I told him if he was willing to take a scan of everything and email to me, I'd love to do the feedback withdrawal. I told him that sending me a scan of the shipping receipts was something that he should have done immediately when there was a problem.
So, did I jump the gun? Was I wrong to expect valid tracking numbers on an expensive coin? Does it seem odd that his last message before refunding my money implied the coin might still arrive, and then later he says he already knew where it was when he refunded my money? Do you think he had already sold the coin, and did not have it anymore? Anything I'm missing here?
I purchased a coin using a BIN on a Sunday night from a 500+ 100% feedback seller, and paid immediately. The seller emailed me and said it would be sent Monday. Wham-bam, done deal. Seller is in the state next door, I figure to have it by the end of the week. When Saturday hits, I email him an inquiry, hoping he will automatically think to send me the tracking info, like most sellers do. Now this was the most expensive coin I had ever tried to purchase from eBay ($2,500+), so I really was interested in that information. If it had been a $100 coin, I wouldn't have cared.
He sent this: "sorry just been going in and out of hospital, i can confirm that the coin was shipped early last week, i assume it will be there monday if it hasnt turned up by now but when i get home ill dig up the tracking number and find out where it is, please excuse the delay in answering your message"
That's cool, I'm thinking he will share the tracking with me. Later I get this: "i went to the post office today and they can track it but cant find it, it never left milwaukee, i would like to offer you a full refund until the coin is located and shipped to you, this has never happened before and i hate the fact that you have paid and not received the coin so the only thing i can think of is refunding ur money and when the coin shows you repay the invoice. other then that im not sure what to do other then wait, the tracking number i have goes nowhere so ithey tracked it using some other way and they just got it to the main sorting facility in milwaukee, the coin has been fully insured but unlike other sellers i couldnt in my right mind say you do the insurance claim..i really dont think thats fair that you would have to wait up to 8 weeks for your money back. other then that all we can do is wait another week and see if it shows, im sure it will but the people at usps arnt the most helpfull or caring people in the world so who knows...im praying it turns up and then im praying you would be honest enough to pay the money for it, i really dont want to get a negative feedback so im willing to do whatever you want me to...if u want a refund and then when it shows u pay that back(i really hope!) or we wait another week and see if it shows as i start the insurance claim(hopefully they will find it then) but i think they said today it has to be lost for 4 weeks before i can make a claim...i dont know this is really upsetting as i dont have this money to loose but i feel so bad u have paid and not got anything yet
tell me what u want to do"
See, it struck me as odd that he offered an immediate refund, but I said let's give it a week. But notice he did not give me the numbers from the shipping receipts. That bothered me. So as it gets later in the second week, I get more aggressive about asking for the tracking number. This was part of a midweek message: " ...there is a way they can check if a parcel has gone through a scanner...its a certian section of usps that does this but it can be done, anyway ill keep in touch and let u know once i hear from usps this week and what they said...im praying it just turns up today...my fingers are crossed lol....i hate these headaches i think ill use fedex from now on"
Still no tracking number. He seemed to completely ignore that I was asking for it. Given the amount of time I had to do a chargeback if needed, and on the advice of a couple forum members, I opened a dispute. THAT got his attention: "no probs ill refund ur money by monday, the reason no tracking number is lodged on paypal is due to the amount of money the trasaction is worth, paypal only insures up to $500 otherwise u have to go to the post office which is what i did, u really screwed me over by placing a claim against me, i told u if it wasnt there on monday i would refund ur money, u have now done a claim against me on saturday therefore freezing all the money in my account! thanks now i cant run my business , i told u i would refund on monday if it hasnt arrived, thats ok if u want to do it this way then u can do the insurance claim to get ur money."
I kept asking for the tracking. Here are some of his replies:
"I am sure if we are patient until after labor day weekend we will have a much better idea what is going on. I also seemed to have over looked that it is labor day weekend, the post office wont even update anything until tuesday, and even then will be backed up until Wednesday. Please just have a LITTLE patience, for the moment it is out of my hands."
"oh, and i have the tracking info written down at home, looking for it currently."
"no im not stalling and i have no reason to, the reason it wasnt automatically in place on paypal as i said was that it is a high value item therefore i have to go to the post office and do everything manually, also then have to find your exact slip which i have"
"the tracking number for your item is
EH 113860743 US
it was sent priority mail with signature confirmation and insured
as it was a public holiday today i could not do further investigation at the post office, u must also understand i dont sit behind my computer waiting for emails, i do have a life and being a public holiday i went away for a couple fo days, no crime and def not stalling? whatever that means, how could i be stalling if i have said i would offer i full refund this week if it didnt show up? i have insured it so it doesnt worry me, what does worry me is a person who is kicking up so much of a stink accusing me of stalling or not having the money to refund you, what if it shows up...are you going to then pay me? how do i know that after all the fuss you are creating? u want me to trust u and refund the money but then USPS is going to make me wait 5 more weeks before i can make a claim, if it shows up in the mean time i have to just accept u will pay me and not rip me off, do u understand why i like to wait a bit for it to turn up? its alot of trust that im placing in u if i refund ur money, i cant claim through paypal can i...only u can...so i hope u understand my situation in the fact that if it shows up and i have refunded u i just have to hope u pay me money, i have no recourse through paypal like u do
i hope u understand the situation a bit better now, ur money is no issue, paypal have frozen that money in my account so i cant touch it so there is no issue with having "no money" as u said, the moment u made the claim the money was frozen
that placed me in a bit of a bind as i could not ship any items...i hope u understand how that can piss a person off when we had a verbal agreement of waiting"
"are u for real, what is your problem? tell you the truth?, i have done nothing but tell you the truth, as i have told u a number of times paypal has frozen your money so i dont know why you are stressing so much, i have provided the tracking number as requested , i have requested information from usps , and i have informed you of this, i have no reason to lie or to not tell you the truth as u put it, over 500 transactions and your the first person i have had an issue with? kinda strange"
"i was prepared to refund you but i have all rights to wait the 45days until i can make a claim to usps, i dont want to do that as i dont feel right holding onto someones money if they dont have what they paid for, but as i said you have to give usps the opportunity to find it? as then i would have to trust you with no recourse if it shows up and you dont pay me....cant you understand that?"
"that isnt a bogus number, if and when that coin arrives you will be made to sign for it, if it is not returned or if it isnt paid i will have to proceed with the legal side of things, i hope you understand, im not out to rip anyone off or to do anything else you are accusing me of, i have proved i shipped it with the tracking number, usps have tracked it in milwaukee so i dont know what u are going on about, i will advise a return to sender on that item once found, but if it is delivered it has signature confirmation so i would expect immediate payment
as i said this has never happened before, you are accusing me of not provideing shipping which i have done, u are saying its a bogus number which it isnt, i really dont know what ur problem is but to save any further heartache i will issue a full refund"
He then immediately issued a refund. Please notice he is claiming the coin may yet arrive, which he contradicts later.
So, I thought about this for awhile. If you track the number he gave me, it is invalid. Plus, it is not even a Priority number. Given this, I left him negative feedback. This was later the same night that he refunded me. This is where it gets stranger. These are the emails I received, all in the course of about an hour. (I pretty much just responded to every one that if he was willing to send me pictures of the receipts, we could do a mutual feedback withdrawal)
"are u for real, u get a refund then u leave that bullsh** feedback, what the hell! its not my bloody fault they didnt deliver the mail, u got ur bloody money then u leave feedback like that! that was a correct number for usps , i have the slip right in front of me that i email u a pic of, i cannot believe that after i fully refunded ur money u would leave feedback like that, never purchase from me again and i know karma will get u back for this because as much as u want to believe i did something wrong i didnt, geez i took a couple of days to reply as it was a public holiday, u should be ashamed of urself, have a look at other people who have purchased just as high priced items with no problems, thanks for trying to sabotage my only source of income, thats really appreciated, btw ur package was located in milwaukee, the address label had been ripped off!, so u can stick that up ur a*#s thanks for a horrible experience with ebay!"
"are u for real! the tracking number isnt automatiucally filled out as i had to go to the post office, thanks for the malicious feedback because ur a fool! i told you this a number of times ! i had to go to the post office due to the value, ur a sad person who has to try and ruin a persons feedback for no reason, ill be lodging a complaint with paypal"
"whats ur mobile number ill send a pic of the receipt right bloody now! i dont have the ability to take a photo right now because the other computer is on the fritz but it will be back tomorrow, i have proof i sendt it and i am appaled u would accuse me of such things! i wont even list that coin again after this incident, i was only selling it as i needed the money to pay medical bills, now u screwed me over with that i had to find money elsewhere as i refunded urs, instead of just waiting for usps which i had every right too, too keep u happy i refunded and look what i got in return, thanks for that! u dont deserve to own a coin of such rarity, i wanted it to go to a good home, and that isnt urs, it will stay with me now as it was an amzing coin and something i shouldnt have ever sold. especially to a person who so obviously doesnt deserve it after maliciously tryintg to ruin my feedback"
"whatever champ, i have the receipt from the post office right in front of me with signature confirmation, i dont really care anymore u have tried to ruin my feedback but i have many loyal customers who dont care, 1 neg 500 positive hmmm what would u believe???? i am an honest seller and did nothing wrong, i have never had any issues until u! i think maybe u purchased something u couldnt afford and u seen a delay in postage as a way to get ur money back, if u cant afford to buy things u should never partake in the transaction, have a great night and god bless"
"weird that u wont give me ur number , what do u think i would harrass u or something...who the hell do u think i am...or who the hell are u?? geez i prob have it on the sales record it i looked...all i wanted to do is send u the picture that i took of the receipt...weirdo"
"i will do that, just to prove u wrong, once again i still cant believe the hide of u, the coin showed up before u left the feedback champ , and before i refunded ur money! i refunded ur money once i knew where the coin was, i should have just shipped it back out and taken back the money but i dont want u to have the coin , u dont deserve it, simple as that, im a collector not a dealer so money isnt my only motivation, u will get ur pics tomorrow, too bad u already screwed my feedback, thats an a**hole thing to do after i did everything i said i would do, i even refunded u when i said i would last week, u have a short memory and i hope u feel good about urself, i disabled vet and u try and ruin one of my only income opportunitys...real nice of u
thanks"
"signature confirmation doesnt have a seperate number, its a green receipt stuck to the outside of the package, as i said i went to the post office, i didnt have second thoughts i purchased the coin for $1800 why would i have second thoughts at making 1000 after fees? doesnt seem right does it, and if someone offered me the same money u paid tomorrow and i knew them i would sell it to them for the same priuce, maybe even cheaper, so u really dont have a leg to stand on with that argument do u? if u do a little investigation u will see that the coin wasnt even purchased that long ago...i just can spot a good deal, anyway enough of that. the number i provided is a correct number for a hand written receipt, i have it sitting right in front of me, i can tell u the weight,the date, everything, but u couldnt wait a day could u, u just assumed i was doing something wrong although 506 people before u never had an issue with me? doesn t that seem strange to u...100% feedback until u came along???? i think maybe u just have run out of money, and thats fine, u could have just sent the coin back for a refund if ur broke i wouldnt have mided, but i do mind a person leaving malicious feedback because of assumptions, i didnt ignore u i didnt rip u off, i refunded ur money, geez if i only had half the luck u have had when i have had an issue with a transaction...what the hell"
Wow. I declined the cell phone picture because I didn't want him having my cell number, and I was sure it would not have enough detail anyway. But I told him if he was willing to take a scan of everything and email to me, I'd love to do the feedback withdrawal. I told him that sending me a scan of the shipping receipts was something that he should have done immediately when there was a problem.
So, did I jump the gun? Was I wrong to expect valid tracking numbers on an expensive coin? Does it seem odd that his last message before refunding my money implied the coin might still arrive, and then later he says he already knew where it was when he refunded my money? Do you think he had already sold the coin, and did not have it anymore? Anything I'm missing here?
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The way he types, it sounds like a kid.
Something is rotten in Denmark.
At least you got a refund. I would thank my lucky stars on that and forget the rest of the episode.
<< <i>Unless he has 'third party' insurance, Priority can only insure to $500.00. >>
No, PAYPAL can only insure up to $500, the USPS has insured Priority packages for me over $3000, but you have to go in person
<< <i>Unless he has 'third party' insurance, Priority can only insure to $500.00. >>
That's only if you use online shipping, you can go much higher at the post office.
I think signature authority and insurance have two seperate numbers if you go to the post office. Could be they only scanned one of the two and he provided the other one.
I'd side with the seller on this one. I would have waited for the next week to roll around since he did say he would refund it. Only thing is you would have had to wait till Tuesday, not worth filing a claim yet.
PS: I would have liked to see what you wrote to him in the emails, rather than just his side of these communications.
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<< <i>Unless he has 'third party' insurance, Priority can only insure to $500.00. >>
No, PAYPAL can only insure up to $500, the USPS has insured Priority packages for me over $3000, but you have to go in person >>
Actually only web based postage can insure up to $500 ... ( that includes PayPal ) ...
<< <i>feedback withdrawal >>
Good luck in getting that done ... I'm not sure if it is possible for your situation .... ;;
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The willingness of the seller to allow you to get your hard earned $$$ back + receive the coin makes me think there is no coin to receive.
The seller's poorly worded email and his beating around the bush with feeble excuses also instills great confidence in him. (insert factiousness here)
I would have used Registered Mail, it's slower but safest.
<< <i>The number he gave you may been the PO's insurance receipt number. Which can only be tracked by the Post Office. >>
You'r assumptions are correct...
All my Postal Insurance labels have 9 digit # with a 2 letter prefix.
<< <i>The number he gave you may been the PO's insurance receipt number. Which can only be tracked by the Post Office.
PS: I would have liked to see what you wrote to him in the emails, rather than just his side of these communications. >>
That number is an Express mail number.
I left mine out to try to avoid making the thing complicated to read. I simply kept asking for proof that the item had been shipped, or a refund. Even if he was mistaken and had shipped it Express, that number should indicate when the item was accepted for shipment when tracked. I've shipped enought stuff by the various methods to know what one should have for receipts. I'm just wondering if when I pushed him for tracking, he went and grabbed a blank form and used that number.
<< <i>Unless he has 'third party' insurance, Priority can only insure to $500.00. >>
Priority, Express mail insurance goes to $5,000. Registered mail insurance goes to $25,000. You can only insure up to $500 on the internet for any USPS postage.
<< <i>The number he gave you may been the PO's insurance receipt number. Which can only be tracked by the Post Office.
PS: I would have liked to see what you wrote to him in the emails, rather than just his side of these communications. >>
I'm with TT on this one.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I think it was kind of rude to leave negative feedback after he gave you your money back. Negatives are for the problems that never get resolved. >>
Last year I sent an item via Priority Mail and also insured the item and had a tracking number and the item (five rolls of Barber quarters) went missing from the USPS system. The tracking number came up invalid and the USPS employees who tracked the item via the internal mail tracking system at USPS could not find it, either. The best they could do was tell me it had been delivered to a hub in Anaheim, CA, but after that they had no record of it in their system. I exchanged emails with the buyer, who was given a refund, over the period of several weeks before the item showed up at their doorstep a bit damaged, but intact. There was no explanation for the delay by the USPS and the item never showed up on their system, even after delivery.
A negative sounds harsh if you were made whole since you still had time to resolve the issue, which appears to have gotten much more complex as the emails flew back and forth.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
It is good that the buyer got his money back. I hope he considers
taking that money to a REAL STORE and buying a nice coin that he
can take home with him right away.
As for the seller, hopefully I will not accidentally buy anything from him.
<< <i>Unless he has 'third party' insurance, Priority can only insure to $500.00. >>
If purchased online. $5000 if purchased at the post office.
This is an express mail number, as was stated earlier-NOT an insured number. Those begin with a "V," followed by nine digits and ending with "US." Sonds to me like the dude is trying to pull a fast one.
I read that mindless drivel 5 times & still don't have a clue other than it was possibly a big misunderstanding that could have been avoided if the seller has simply said:
"Your coin has been shipped, tracking number is blah blah blah and you should receive it shortly."