C'mon guys, face reality, the Yankees are D-O-N-E. This is not 1978, don't see any Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone in the lineup, blah, blah. The teams are all different, the atmosphere is all different. To live in the past is to live a fallacy...look at the numbers. There is only about 25 games to go. The Red Sox might not win the Division or WC, but surely the Yankees are incapable, given their pitching and spotty hitting to overcome such a deficit.
Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be???
Giardi made a good point...if they yanks could gain 1 game each week and meet with Boston at the end of the season, it could get very interesting. Who knows what will happen.
As far as Cano, Cano is just too good at the plate and since Melky has been sent down, he has shown what kind of hitter he really is. Cano is fine now. Melky going down was a huge reality check.
Damon done? He's 5th in the AL with a .319 average! What else do you want from him? We already knew he throws like a sissy. He also has 25 Stolen Bases. He is not at all worthless. Dont get me wrong...I dont want to see the Yanks resign him.
Joba has thrown like a champion as both a reliever and a starter. Where ever he is needed Im happy with it.
Hank Stienbrenner didnt whine about the injuries. He was asked about them and he made a short, curt statement that they are things that you can do nothing about. If there is more, I'd love to read about it so please let me know.
Kennedy should have been traded long ago. His attitude is not what the Yanks need...and other teams may feel like that attitude doesnt belong in the bigs at all. He's got good stuff but he cant handle the pressure in NY. His statements earlier this year proved that. Phil Hughes has a LOT of hope. He just turned 23 and coming off injury. Yeah, he blew it the first half of the year but dont count him out as a very effective ML pitcher yet.
Always amuses me to see statements made by people who can not actually be watching the Yankees games.
<< <i>C'mon guys, face reality, the Yankees are D-O-N-E. This is not 1978, don't see any Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone in the lineup, blah, blah. The teams are all different, the atmosphere is all different. To live in the past is to live a fallacy...look at the numbers. There is only about 25 games to go. The Red Sox might not win the Division or WC, but surely the Yankees are incapable, given their pitching and spotty hitting to overcome such a deficit.
Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be??? >>
In one sentence you say the Sox may NOT win the divison or WC then in another you say it would be cool for them to meet the Cubs in the WS.
<< <i>C'mon guys, face reality, the Yankees are D-O-N-E. This is not 1978, don't see any Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone in the lineup, blah, blah. The teams are all different, the atmosphere is all different. To live in the past is to live a fallacy...look at the numbers. There is only about 25 games to go. The Red Sox might not win the Division or WC, but surely the Yankees are incapable, given their pitching and spotty hitting to overcome such a deficit.
Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be??? >>
In one sentence you say the Sox may NOT win the divison or WC then in another you say it would be cool for them to meet the Cubs in the WS.
Steve >>
IF I must...the Red Sox might not win either the division or WC. However, should they do so, it would be cool to see a Red Sox - Cubs WS. What don't you get? You do comprehend "might not" don't you? You do comprehend "ponder" don't you? What is to not discern from that? I am, however EMPHATIC that the Yankees are done this year.
I take it this is once again your lame attempt to be confrontational. Your last attempt was exceptionally poor. Read my words again, surely you comprehend the numerics of the current standings. I DID NOT say the Red Sox would lose either the division or WC, merely implied they could, then stated it is nice to ponder the possibilites (you do comprehend the word possibility, don't you?) of a Cubs - Red Sox WS.
Perhaps it is time for me to ignore your ongoing attempts at being confrontational by your misreading of what I write.
One thing - please, enough with the 1978 nonsense. That was 30 years ago! Today's Yankee team is gutless, and led by the most unclutch team player in all of professional sports.
But, please keep beating the Rays for us, thank you.
Who cares when it was? It happened. And besides that it has happened more times then many of you would like to admit. If some of you here want to believe the Yanks are toast that is fine, just down claim it as fact, cuz it ain't.
As for Al..............Creator of this CONFRONTATIONAL thread you reap what you sow.
Like someone mentioned to me above, grow a freaking skin dude.
What a way to close out King George Stadium. A Red Sox player wins the MVP in the AS game, and the team is mired in a slump of biblical proportions. Twelve back in the loss column and the light at the end of the tunnel is definitely that of an oncoming train.
The Steinbrenner boys surely didn't get their bang for buck this season. Throw more money at the players next year Hank, that'll guarantee a WS title in '09.
Somebody please remind me of all the WS titles, rings, blah, blah of days gone by.
Tis The CURSE of Torre. He is lovin' life in LA and not having to put up with the insanity of the Bronx.
Confrontational? spare me the bla bla bla pal.
Some here win a WS after 86 years then another, and think they can pound their chests.
Keep pounding, according to you the SOX MAY NOT even win the WC this year!
<< <i>One thing - please, enough with the 1978 nonsense. That was 30 years ago! Today's Yankee team is gutless, and led by the most unclutch team player in all of professional sports.
But, please keep beating the Rays for us, thank you. >>
Amen ! And that Bucky Dent team doesn't compare to the 2004 Yankee collapse. Many teams did what the 78 Yankees did. Nobody did what the 2004 Yankees did.
<< <i>Hank Stienbrenner didnt whine about the injuries. He was asked about them and he made a short, curt statement that they are things that you can do nothing about. If there is more, I'd love to read about it so please let me know. >>
I think the "whining" reference alludes to the time this season when Wang got hurt and Steinbrenner complained about having to play National League teams because that puts American League pitchers at an unnecessary risk since batting and running the base paths is not something they do on a regular basis. It was perceived by many as whining at the time . . . even if he had a valid point. NY Times Article
That was a heart breaking loss against the Devil Rays today. Sure, Rasner let the game get away, but the Yankees did rally in the 9th--a real courageous effort. It ended up being a close game and the Yankees could have won had there been just a mediocre pitcher doing his 5 innings.
Go Yanks!
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really? can you name them? Teams out 14 games in August that came back and won it all?
I don't think so.
Steve >>
I do think so
1930 St Louis Cardinals were 12 games out on August 9th, only to go 39-10 to overtake the Cubs 1942 St Louis Cardinals had a 10 game deficit on August 5th, but went 44-9 to overtake the Dodgers 1951 NY Giants were 13 games behind the Dodgers on August on August 12th, but went 37-8 to beat Brooklyn 1964 St Louis Cardinals were 11 out on August 24th but overtook the Phillies 1969 Mets were 10 behind the Cubs on August 14th, but went 38-11, and the Cubs went 18-27 1973 Mets were 11 behind the Cardinals on August 5th, but went 34-19 while the Cards went 20-31. 1995 Mariners were 13 behind the Angels on August 3 only to overtake them.
And by the way, the Yankees were 14 out on July 20th. They were not 14 out in August, so someone needs to get his facts straight
I am ever so thankful for the 1995 through 2007 string of success.
Wake me up when a Red Sox team can come anywhere CLOSE to a string of success as such. In other words,
This is for the Sox fans who chests are so puffed out right now due to the Yankees haplessness. Such as the bush league author of this thread. Reality is your TWO World Championships and HIT and MISS playoff apperances over the span mentioned are barely a pimple on Yankee a$$.
However, enjoy it bush league Sox fans.
NOTE TO THE TRUE SOX FAITHFUL: You know this was not directed in your direction
If i remember to do it, I'll post a "Stick a fork in the Mets, they are done" thread in a few weeks.
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<< <i>As for the actual date when the Yanks began the turnaround.......... >>
The Yankees woke up on July 20th 14 games behind Boston, but were only 13 games out of first place that same evening after July 20th's games were played.
The most games that the Yankees were behind Boston for first place in August of 1978 was 9 games on August 13th. The Yankees were 6.5 games out of first place on September 1st, and after the "Boston Massacre" in early September where the Yankees outscored Boston 42 to 9 in a 4 game series at Fenway Park, the Yankees took over 1st pace for good on September 13th, and even had a 3 1/2 game lead by September 16th.
<< <i>You do? The criteria was 'and won it all' the teams you list did not win it all.
Nice try though.
Steve >>
And you set the criteria for my comment ?
My comment was many teams did what the Yankees did, meaning they were behind a lot of games and still came back and won their division. You decided to add the "won it all".
It still amazes me how some of these Bosox "fans" have more concern of the Yanks losing than their team winning. Have at it though. I dont see the 2008 World Series trophy in their case yet. Sure it could happen but it hasnt yet.
My comment was many teams did what the Yankees did, meaning they were behind a lot of games and still came back and won their division. You decided to add the "won it all".
Really? Teams that did what you state in the 30's and 40's and 50's DID NOT win a division.
Division play began in 69, so again, 3 teams (if we use your amended thought) did what the 78 Yanks did with the 78 Yanks being one of them.
<< Ax the guy hit into 13 DP's in the past month after hitting into 1 all season before that. >>
So what? You're going to base an entire season on 13 at bats, out of 500+? That would be silly.
Wrong - It's 13 at bats in the last month of at bats - that's significant.
<< Did you read that yahoo article?
In the 8th and 9th inning he is hitting 111. >>
Again, so what? A home run in the first inning counts exactly the same as a home run in the 8th or 9th.
Wrong - It counts towards the score, it doesn't necessarily count towards a victory - there's a big difference. A homerun in the first inning generally is more important than a homerun in the ninth inning.
<< When the marbles are on the line the guy comes up way short.
Steve >>
Marbles on the table? What does that even mean? The absurd (and incorrect) notion that the only at bats that matter happen late in games needs to die already. Why don't you look at more than 13 at bats to determine a hitter's worth, instead of a tiny, statistically insignificant amount?
As far as your points about Abreu and Damon, you didn't just mention batting average RBI to determine a batter's worth did you? Good god, you are a dinosaur.
Batting average is as bad as wins and losses for a pitcher to determine value. RBI (and runs scored) are more a function of the TEAM and less the BATTER.
Talk about not knowing thing one how to analyze statistics...you take the cake, my friend.
I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year.
Wrong - No conceivable possible way without Arod that the Yankees would lose 100 games this season.
<< <i>I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year. >>
Listen to me Stevek - you're nuts.
There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games. That's a lot of games to lose, really bad teams like the Nationals, Pirates, and Mariners might not lose 100 games - you think an Arod-less Yankee team would?
What do they put in the drinking water in Philly, anyway?
<< <i>I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year. >>
Listen to me Stevek - you're nuts.
There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games. That's a lot of games to lose, really bad teams like the Nationals, Pirates, and Mariners might not lose 100 games - you think an Arod-less Yankee team would?
What do they put in the drinking water in Philly, anyway?
>>
<<< There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games >>>
Yes, of course that's wrong - Axtell said this, not me.
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Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be???
The Yanks are up 5-1 with 2 on and none out in the top of the 4th.
The Yankees are far from done.
The way they are playing tonight. Don't EVER count them out.
If Red Sox fans learned anything from 2004.....
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As far as Cano, Cano is just too good at the plate and since Melky has been sent down, he has shown what kind of hitter he really is. Cano is fine now. Melky going down was a huge reality check.
Damon done? He's 5th in the AL with a .319 average! What else do you want from him? We already knew he throws like a sissy. He also has 25 Stolen Bases. He is not at all worthless. Dont get me wrong...I dont want to see the Yanks resign him.
Joba has thrown like a champion as both a reliever and a starter. Where ever he is needed Im happy with it.
Hank Stienbrenner didnt whine about the injuries. He was asked about them and he made a short, curt statement that they are things that you can do nothing about. If there is more, I'd love to read about it so please let me know.
Kennedy should have been traded long ago. His attitude is not what the Yanks need...and other teams may feel like that attitude doesnt belong in the bigs at all. He's got good stuff but he cant handle the pressure in NY. His statements earlier this year proved that. Phil Hughes has a LOT of hope. He just turned 23 and coming off injury. Yeah, he blew it the first half of the year but dont count him out as a very effective ML pitcher yet.
Always amuses me to see statements made by people who can not actually be watching the Yankees games.
So exactly what are you saying here?
More wishful thinking is all I can say.
Steve
<< <i>C'mon guys, face reality, the Yankees are D-O-N-E. This is not 1978, don't see any Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone in the lineup, blah, blah. The teams are all different, the atmosphere is all different. To live in the past is to live a fallacy...look at the numbers. There is only about 25 games to go. The Red Sox might not win the Division or WC, but surely the Yankees are incapable, given their pitching and spotty hitting to overcome such a deficit.
Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be???
In one sentence you say the Sox may NOT win the divison or WC then in another you say it would be cool for them to meet the Cubs in the WS.
Steve
<< <i>
<< <i>C'mon guys, face reality, the Yankees are D-O-N-E. This is not 1978, don't see any Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone in the lineup, blah, blah. The teams are all different, the atmosphere is all different. To live in the past is to live a fallacy...look at the numbers. There is only about 25 games to go. The Red Sox might not win the Division or WC, but surely the Yankees are incapable, given their pitching and spotty hitting to overcome such a deficit.
Should this miracle of miracles take place for the Yankee faithful, I will be the first to post a congratulatory message. Till then...IT IS O-VAH FOR THE YANKEES.
Time getting closer to ponder the possibilities of a Cubs - Red Sox WS. How cool would that be???
In one sentence you say the Sox may NOT win the divison or WC then in another you say it would be cool for them to meet the Cubs in the WS.
Steve >>
IF I must...the Red Sox might not win either the division or WC. However, should they do so, it would be cool to see a Red Sox - Cubs WS. What don't you get? You do comprehend "might not" don't you? You do comprehend "ponder" don't you? What is to not discern from that? I am, however EMPHATIC that the Yankees are done this year.
I take it this is once again your lame attempt to be confrontational. Your last attempt was exceptionally poor. Read my words again, surely you comprehend the numerics of the current standings. I DID NOT say the Red Sox would lose either the division or WC, merely implied they could, then stated it is nice to ponder the possibilites (you do comprehend the word possibility, don't you?) of a Cubs - Red Sox WS.
Perhaps it is time for me to ignore your ongoing attempts at being confrontational by your misreading of what I write.
But, please keep beating the Rays for us, thank you.
of you would like to admit. If some of you here want to believe the Yanks are toast that is fine, just
down claim it as fact, cuz it ain't.
As for Al..............Creator of this CONFRONTATIONAL thread you reap what you sow.
Like someone mentioned to me above, grow a freaking skin dude.
Talk about being confrontational.
Steve
The Steinbrenner boys surely didn't get their bang for buck this season. Throw more money at the players next year Hank, that'll guarantee a WS title in '09.
Somebody please remind me of all the WS titles, rings, blah, blah of days gone by.
Tis The CURSE of Torre. He is lovin' life in LA and not having to put up with the insanity of the Bronx.
Confrontational? spare me the bla bla bla pal.
Some here win a WS after 86 years then another, and think they can pound their chests.
Keep pounding, according to you the SOX MAY NOT even win the WC this year!
(said emphatically)
Steve
<< <i>One thing - please, enough with the 1978 nonsense. That was 30 years ago! Today's Yankee team is gutless, and led by the most unclutch team player in all of professional sports.
But, please keep beating the Rays for us, thank you. >>
Amen !
And that Bucky Dent team doesn't compare to the 2004 Yankee collapse. Many teams did what the 78 Yankees did.
Nobody did what the 2004 Yankees did.
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<< <i>Hank Stienbrenner didnt whine about the injuries. He was asked about them and he made a short, curt statement that they are things that you can do nothing about. If there is more, I'd love to read about it so please let me know. >>
I think the "whining" reference alludes to the time this season when Wang got hurt and Steinbrenner complained about having to play National League teams because that puts American League pitchers at an unnecessary risk since batting and running the base paths is not something they do on a regular basis. It was perceived by many as whining at the time . . . even if he had a valid point. NY Times Article
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really? can you name them? Teams out 14 games in August that came back and won it all?
I don't think so.
Steve
Compared to the whining of the Red Sox president of a few years ago.
Steve
<< <i>Many teams did what the 78 Yankees did.
really? can you name them? Teams out 14 games in August that came back and won it all?
I don't think so.
Steve >>
I do think so
1930 St Louis Cardinals were 12 games out on August 9th, only to go 39-10 to overtake the Cubs
1942 St Louis Cardinals had a 10 game deficit on August 5th, but went 44-9 to overtake the Dodgers
1951 NY Giants were 13 games behind the Dodgers on August on August 12th, but went 37-8 to beat Brooklyn
1964 St Louis Cardinals were 11 out on August 24th but overtook the Phillies
1969 Mets were 10 behind the Cubs on August 14th, but went 38-11, and the Cubs went 18-27
1973 Mets were 11 behind the Cardinals on August 5th, but went 34-19 while the Cards went 20-31.
1995 Mariners were 13 behind the Angels on August 3 only to overtake them.
And by the way, the Yankees were 14 out on July 20th. They were not 14 out in August, so someone needs to get his facts straight
Nice try though.
Steve
1978 Yankees did.
I give you an A+ for effort though.
As for the actual date when the Yanks began the turnaround I'll take your word for it.
Steve
I am ever so thankful for the 1995 through 2007 string of success.
Wake me up when a Red Sox team can come anywhere CLOSE to a string of success as such. In other words,
This is for the Sox fans who chests are so puffed out right now due to the Yankees haplessness. Such as the bush league author of this thread. Reality is your TWO World Championships and HIT and MISS playoff apperances over the span mentioned are barely a pimple on Yankee a$$.
However, enjoy it bush league Sox fans.
NOTE TO THE TRUE SOX FAITHFUL: You know this was not directed in your direction
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<< <i>As for the actual date when the Yanks began the turnaround.......... >>
The Yankees woke up on July 20th 14 games behind Boston, but were only 13 games out of first place that same evening after July 20th's games were played.
The most games that the Yankees were behind Boston for first place in August of 1978 was 9 games on August 13th. The Yankees were 6.5 games out of first place on September 1st, and after the "Boston Massacre" in early September where the Yankees outscored Boston 42 to 9 in a 4 game series at Fenway Park, the Yankees took over 1st pace for good on September 13th, and even had a 3 1/2 game lead by September 16th.
<< <i>You do? The criteria was 'and won it all' the teams you list did not win it all.
Nice try though.
Steve >>
And you set the criteria for my comment ?
My comment was many teams did what the Yankees did, meaning they were behind a lot of games
and still came back and won their division. You decided to add the "won it all".
No, you set it by saying 'many teams did what the 78 yanks did'
And what they did was win it all.
You then named 7 teams of which more then half did NOT win it all.
Spin it anyway you want.
Dan (Soft) well said.
Steve
My comment was many teams did what the Yankees did, meaning they were behind a lot of games
and still came back and won their division. You decided to add the "won it all".
Really? Teams that did what you state in the 30's and 40's and 50's DID NOT win a division.
Division play began in 69, so again, 3 teams (if we use your amended thought) did what the 78 Yanks did with the 78 Yanks being one of them.
Steve
The Yankees are still the only team to ever lose 4 straight in a series in the playoffs
Sincerely,
RSN
<< <i>This just in.............
The Yankees are still the only team to ever lose 4 straight in a series in the playoffs
Sincerely,
RSN >>
Innacurate, due to poor wording.
<< <i>
<< <i>This just in.............
The Yankees are still the only team to ever lose 4 straight in a series in the playoffs
Sincerely,
RSN >>
Innacurate, due to poor wording. >>
Moderately ironic, due to poor spelling.
Steve
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>This just in.............
The Yankees are still the only team to ever lose 4 straight in a series in the playoffs
Sincerely,
RSN >>
Innacurate, due to poor wording. >>
Moderately ironic, due to poor spelling. >>
Sister Alice Regina, is that you?
<< <i>
Sister Alice Regina, is that you? >>
<< <i>
<< <i>This just in.............
The Yankees are still the only team to ever lose 4 straight in a series in the playoffs
Sincerely,
RSN >>
Innacurate, due to poor wording. >>
That's correct - There are teams that have been shutout 4 - 0 in a series - that's losing 4 straight.
Hate to say it but the 1950 Phillies were one of them.
Who woulda thunk it?
This just in, someone needs to get his facts straight.
Steve
Steve
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Did you read that yahoo article?
In the 8th and 9th inning he is hitting 111.
When the marbles are on the line the guy comes up way short.
Steve
Talk about not knowing how to interpret stats you just showed everyone your total ignorance of them.
Steve
<< <i>
I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year. >>
And once again, as much as you want it to be, what you say doesnt make it fact. Just pipe dreams really.
So what? You're going to base an entire season on 13 at bats, out of 500+? That would be silly.
Wrong - It's 13 at bats in the last month of at bats - that's significant.
<< Did you read that yahoo article?
In the 8th and 9th inning he is hitting 111. >>
Again, so what? A home run in the first inning counts exactly the same as a home run in the 8th or 9th.
Wrong - It counts towards the score, it doesn't necessarily count towards a victory - there's a big difference. A homerun in the first inning generally is more important than a homerun in the ninth inning.
<< When the marbles are on the line the guy comes up way short.
Steve >>
Marbles on the table? What does that even mean? The absurd (and incorrect) notion that the only at bats that matter happen late in games needs to die already. Why don't you look at more than 13 at bats to determine a hitter's worth, instead of a tiny, statistically insignificant amount?
As far as your points about Abreu and Damon, you didn't just mention batting average RBI to determine a batter's worth did you? Good god, you are a dinosaur.
Batting average is as bad as wins and losses for a pitcher to determine value. RBI (and runs scored) are more a function of the TEAM and less the BATTER.
Talk about not knowing thing one how to analyze statistics...you take the cake, my friend.
I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year.
Wrong - No conceivable possible way without Arod that the Yankees would lose 100 games this season.
Steve
ahh it appears our old buddy not only got the boot but he had to take his dribble with him.
<< <i>Talk about not knowing thing one how to analyze statistics...you take the cake, my friend.
I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year.
Wrong - No conceivable possible way without Arod that the Yankees would lose 100 games this season. >>
Win,
yeah, I think maybe stevek gobbled down two or three perks with a few beers before making that incoherent response
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<< <i>I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year. >>
Listen to me Stevek - you're nuts.
There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games. That's a lot of games to lose, really bad teams like the Nationals, Pirates, and Mariners might not lose 100 games - you think an Arod-less Yankee team would?
What do they put in the drinking water in Philly, anyway?
<< <i>
<< <i>Talk about not knowing thing one how to analyze statistics...you take the cake, my friend.
I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year.
Wrong - No conceivable possible way without Arod that the Yankees would lose 100 games this season. >>
Win,
yeah, I think maybe stevek gobbled down two or three perks with a few beers before making that incoherent response
I think you guys realize the moderator deleted all of Axtell's recent alt-ID posts and it was him I was responding to as wrong.
<< <i>
<< <i>I've said it once, I'll say it again: without Arod, the yankees lose 100 games this year. >>
Listen to me Stevek - you're nuts.
There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games. That's a lot of games to lose, really bad teams like the Nationals, Pirates, and Mariners might not lose 100 games - you think an Arod-less Yankee team would?
What do they put in the drinking water in Philly, anyway?
<<< There is no way that you take Arod from that team, and they automatically lose 100 games >>>
Yes, of course that's wrong - Axtell said this, not me.
Steve
<< <i>Yes SteveK I realized it after replying.
Steve >>
And I noticed that siglie "chirp" Steve - i don't like it
Steve