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MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
Past or present.

They don't necessarily have to be the biggest or most successful dealers. However you decide to determine "importance" is up to you.
Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    centsless. Everyone else fights for second place. image

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    People or companies. Steve Ivy or Heritage?


    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭
    Mehl
    Chapman
    Bowers/Empire
    Kosoff
    Kagin
    Behmer
    Harlan Berk
    Halperin
    Albanese
    Heritage et al

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • image


    For making coin buying for the common man easier.

    On a more numismatic note, QDB for sharing so much knowledge with so many of us through his books.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting question that may stimulate some rather heated debate. image

    Off the top of my head and in no particular order:
    Q. David Bowers
    Harvey Stack
    B. Max Mehl
    Wayte Raymond
    John Ford
    Jim Halperin and Steve Ivy (collectively because of Heritage)
    David Hall (for taking the TPG concept to where it is today)
    Rick Snow (for his Photo Seal, the predecessor of CAC)
    Julian M. Leidman (he was the first nationally recognized dealer I met and did business with)
    John Agre and John Kraljevich (collectively because of their assistance with my personal collecting goals)
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lyman Low
    Chapmans
    Max Mehl
    Birdie Johnson
    Abe Kosoff
    QDB
    Stack's
    Jay Parrino
    John Ford, Jr.
    Heritage

    If I had eleven, I would include Andrew and Aki Lustig and Co.

    Great topic for a thread, BTW
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Andy:

    Interesting question. I bet most of the responses will be heavily weighted toward more recent dealers. I think that's not correct--we need to acknowledge the dealers who were before us. However it is difficult to rank old-time dealers with modern dealers. In my ranking I tried to envision their importance to numismatics, both at the time and what we, current-day collectors and dealers, have inherited from them. It's tough! However, here is my attempt:

    B.Max Mehl, definitely
    Q. David Bowers, definitely
    Wayte Raymond, definitely
    David Hall, definitely
    John Ford, probably
    Chapman brothers, probably
    Farran Zerbe, probably
    Steve Ivy/Jim Halperin, probably
    Edward Cogan, probably

    Lyman Low, probably not. but close
    Thomas Elder, probably not, but close
    Abe Kossoff, probably not

    Mark


  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The US Mint
    Ebay

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Anyone that says Anaconda will be SHOT!
    image
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Every coin dealer is important to someone.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    mark feld must always sit on such list as...
    brian wagner should always be found on it too
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are some laughable responses to this thread...some intentionally so, others...image
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    eBay is not a dealer. It's a venue, remember? image
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Chapman
    Kosoff/ Kreisberg
    Mehl
    Breen
    Hall
    Halperin
    Edwards
    Ahwash
    Nagle
    Albanese

    Some were before my time and only known to me from reading about them and what they accomplished and how they were instrumental in promoting the hobby or in helping others to assemble great sets of coins. Hall and Albanese for starting the TPG era of numismatics. Edwards as one of the proponents for Gem material. Nagle for his grading abilities, knowledge, and providing me with invaluable information through the years.

    john

    (Edited to add, not listed in any particular order of importance...)
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    No mention of David Akers/Paramount?

    tsk! tsk!
    image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>centsless. Everyone else fights for second place. image >>


    Senseless above Blue Moon?
    How about hager?
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    what no laura lovin here...she'd be hurtimage

    hey...where's russ???
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    Ed Cogan -- Known as the first American coin dealer. Helped build J.J. Mickley collection as well as other famous early collections.

    John Haseltine -- Known for the dissemination of many unique items from the mint (If only we knew all of the information that he did about the 1860-1880 goings on in the US Mint!), and giving the Chapman brothers their first job in numismatics.

    Samuel H. & Henry Chapman –- The first career numismatist dealers. Catalogers of multiple famous collections, whose plated editions are avidly sought by collectors.

    B. Max Mehl -- A tireless promoter who brought numismatics to the unwashed masses like no other before him and no one after. One of only a few dealers with a numismatic career of more than 50 years.

    Wayte Raymond -- Clearly one of the giants in promoting numismatics. Through publishing numismatic references and educational periodicals he created many new collectors (and can you say, National Coin albums? nuff said!).

    John J. Ford -- Along with Wayte Raymond he understood the need for research and more information and was essential in the employment of Walter Breen.

    Abe Kosoff -- Given much support from more obscure collector/dealers, he went on to be an ambassador and staunch supporter of numismatics for almost 50 years.

    Q. David Bowers -- Bowers stands alone in numismatic literary output, not to mention his many coin companies over the years, involved in building and then selling many famous collections over the course of more than 50 years.

    Stacks -- A family owned and run coin dealership for over 70 years. They have been instrumental in helping many famous collections being formed and dispersed back to collectors.

    Heritage Galleries – From a small operation to the 1000 pound gorilla they have now become, all current collectors have to admit that they now dominate the numismatic scene.

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No mention of David Akers/Paramount?

    tsk! tsk! >>


    So who's on your list saintguru?
  • David Lawrence
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    For Bust series coins, Sheridan Downey---and, he is currently active as a dealer.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Quarternut:

    Good list; Haseltine slipped my mind. I disagree with Kosoff-I think he was important, just not in the top 10. I believe that Zerbe, while he likely was a sleeze, probably belongs on the list in place of Kosoff.
    Mark


  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    B. Max Mehl
    QDB
    Stacks
    Heritage (ivy/ halperin)
    Raymond Wright
    Jon Albanesse CAC
    David Hall
    David Lawrence Rare Coins
    Jack Lee
    Lou's Coin, Porn and Barbershop

    And the guy that is on his farewell coin tour (Nachbar??) Maybe he will make a comeback in 5 to 10 years like the Doobie Brothers, Styx, REO etc.
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Given Zerbe's possible role in the 1910 destruction of pattern hubs, his absolute ignorance of marketing and failure to distribute multiple commemorative coins, his ethically-challenged public arguments with Tom Elder, ceaseless self-promotion and a general shadiness (as noted by Treasury staff), I think Zerbe belongs on the "Large Mouth, Small Value" list.
  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Given Zerbe's possible role in the 1910 destruction of pattern hubs, his absolute ignorance of marketing and failure to distribute multiple commemorative coins, his ethically-challenged public arguments with Tom Elder, ceaseless self-promotion and a general shadiness (as noted by Treasury staff), I think Zerbe belongs on the "Large Mouth, Small Value" list. >>



    image Some of the many reasons why I didn't pick Zerbe!

    It was difficult in deciding on just 10, but my choices were geared more towards how they impacted numismatics the most (more in a positive way).

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    David Akers
    B. Max Mehl
    John Albanese
    Jim Halperin
    Stacks
    Heritage
    Parrino, even though I don't like him
    Izzy Switt image
    Kevin Lipton
    King Farouk image

    I don't know many of the old time dealers
    image
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rwb:

    So I suspect you will not be working a book titled "Farran Zerbe--the Mother Teresa of Numismatics" any time real soon?? Given Zerbe's character, it's at at least passingly ironic that the ANA's top award is the "Farran Zerbe Memorial Award".

    All that said, I still think Zerbe deserves a spot on the top 10. I think John Ford might have had feet of clay and potentially was as a least as ethically challenged as Zerbe. Yet quarternut and I both put him on our list of the top 10. After all, a list of the top 10 saints of the last 200 years and the top 10 coin dealers won't not have much of an overlap.

    Mark


  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>David Akers
    B. Max Mehl
    John Albanese
    Jim Halperin
    Stacks
    Heritage
    Parrino, even though I don't like him
    Izzy Switt image
    Kevin Lipton
    King Farouk image

    I don't know many of the old time dealers >>



    Sorry, i don't think king Farouk would qualify as he was a collector (hoarder) not a dealer, not to mention that he was Egyptian not American as stated as a qualifier in the OP.

    Respectfully,
    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>rwb:

    So I suspect you will not be working a book titled "Farran Zerbe--the Mother Teresa of Numismatics" any time real soon?? Given Zerbe's character, it's at at least passingly ironic that the ANA's top award is the "Farran Zerbe Memorial Award".

    All that said, I still think Zerbe deserves a spot on the top 10. I think John Ford might have had feet of clay and potentially was as a least as ethically challenged as Zerbe. Yet quarternut and I both put him on our list of the top 10. After all, a list of the top 10 saints of the last 200 years and the top 10 coin dealers won't not have much of an overlap. >>



    I have some problems with Ford as well, but you have to look at his oveall impact. from the raising of numismatic catalog content in the New Netherlands publications to the monumental collection auctioned by Stacks the impact to the future of numismatics has been huge and may even have later repercussions as future collectors discover the catalogs of his collection.

    Zerbe has only been deified by the ANA and they have turned a deaf ear to any of the bad things associated with him. Evidently time is forgiving and someday perhaps Ford will be looked at in a different light.

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>David Akers
    B. Max Mehl
    John Albanese
    Jim Halperin
    Stacks
    Heritage
    Parrino, even though I don't like him
    Izzy Switt image
    Kevin Lipton
    King Farouk image

    I don't know many of the old time dealers >>



    Sorry, i don't think king Farouk would qualify as he was a collector (hoarder) not a dealer, not to mention that he was Egyptian not American as stated as a qualifier in the OP.

    Respectfully,
    QN >>



    YEAH??? Well that's why I used Mr. Winky so get over ot. image
    image
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "most important" can mean many things so I cannot decide.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joseph Levick

    Joseph N.T. Levick was born circa 1828 and died in October 1908. He was a captain with the New York Volunteers in the Civil War. It was Levick who proposed that the American Numismatic Society have a published magazine and the American Journal of Numismatics was begun in 1866. He served as treasurer of the ANS from 1867 to 1874. Levick advertised himself as a banker and broker of government securities, foreign and domestic specie, stocks, bonds, and gold. He also dealt in rare coins. His name appeared in conjunction with several 19th century auctions sales including W. Elliott Woodard’s sale of October 1864

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wayte Raymond

    Wayte Raymond was a dealer and publisher who was born in South Norwalk, Connecticut on November 9, 1886. He and his wife Olga were married in 1917. The couple remained childless. Raymond was employed as a bank teller from 1901 to 1912, working for the City National Bank of South Norwalk. He was a member of the Sons of the Revolution and also a mason. Raymond joined the ANA at age 16 and later joined with Elmer Sears to form the United States Coin Company, conducting 43 auctions sales from 1912 to 1918.

    He later joined with James G. Macallister as numismatic catalogers for J.C. Morgenthau and Company, holding over 50 sales. From 1908 to 1950 he held 69 auctions sales under his own name and served the Scott Stamp and Coin Company from 1934 to 1946, handling important clients such as Col. Green. From 1946 until his death on September 23, 1956, he operated New Netherlands Coin Company. Raymond produced his own line of coin albums and also wrote or compiled several monographs, books, and other references. He published Coin and Medal Bulletin from 1924 to 1933, Coin Collector’s Journal from 1934 to 1954, and Coin Topics from 1936 to 1940.

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭
    In no particular order

    Chapman Brothers
    Ed. Frossard
    Wayte Raymond
    Abe Kosoff/Numismatic Gallery
    B Max Mehl
    Thomas Elder
    Stack's
    New Netherlands
    Q David Bowers
    Heritage
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Legend and Blanchard.
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • MercfanMercfan Posts: 701 ✭✭
    I'm mildly surprised that nobody has named Littleton on this thread.

    My experience is that they have sold a ton of worn widgets at inflated prices for decades, but those sales have played a very important role in creating A LOT of past and present collectors.

    (I just wish they had never sold me the coin cleaning kit--including the little copper wire bristle brush--that made some of my great grandfather's AU BN IHCs look so bright again!)

    The horror!

    image
    "Coin collecting problem"? What "coin collecting problem"?
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wayne Miller


    If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't even be collecting coins image



    Steve
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Still no one recognizes David Akers!image

    In the 1960-S thru 80's he handled just about every great collection in one way or another as the head numismatist at Paramount. He's still the most knowledgable person I know in the business by far. He remembers every coin he's handlesd with precise detail. And his commitment to the highest quality original coins is uncompromised.

    Modern gold is referred to as being "Akers-like" among many dealers and collectors. It's the highest compliment that can be paid to 20th C. gold coins, IMO.
    image
  • Julian Liedman at Bonanza and Albannese have quietly

    handled many, many, big coins to anonomous collectors

    in the last 25 years--no fanfare though.
    morgannut2
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Legend has helped build some of the finest known sets.


  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    These 6 should be on every list imho:
    Bowers
    Kosoff
    Mehl
    David Hall
    Heritage
    Sperber image
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul Sims
    Jonathan Hefferlin
    Bob Patterson
    The nameless thieves who ripped everyone off in the pre-slabbing days
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    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I think that B Max Mehl should be on the top of that list. He brought coin collecting to the unwashed masses, and was a master at marketing. Although I really like the dealers named in this thread who followed Mehl, when you boil it down, each of those dealers just did business as a derivation of the way Mehl did business. Some of the subsequent dealers leaned more toward research (Bowers, Ford, etc.), while other had more of a marketing angle (like Hall and Heritage). You can argue that Mehl's research was not the greatest, but he was the first dealer looking out for the "everyman" collector, and everyone else just copied/followed his lead.
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